RE: Citroen C4 Cactus: Review

RE: Citroen C4 Cactus: Review

Monday 23rd June 2014

Citroen C4 Cactus: Review

Perhaps not a natural PH car but the C4 Cactus is a welcome return to weird for Citroen



Outside every car collector's garage is a filthy, seemingly unloved, car parked in the rain.

Citroen does a Duster?
Citroen does a Duster?
It's the job of these neglected hacks to shuttle the wealthy car collector to and from their place of worship and do all the jobs you wouldn't want to do in your F40 - but despite costing a fraction of the priceless pampered garage queens, never underestimate the considerable thought that has gone into choosing them.

Witness Porschephile Jerry Seinfeld sweet, slightly battered old Beetle that helps him slip anonymously around Manhattan, or the well-used black '89 Bentley Turbo R Jay Leno jumps into when he fancies an In-N-Out Burger in the middle of the night. Even our very own funny, but surprisingly-serious-in-real-life Rowan Atkinson chooses to potter around in a mid-nineties Polo Harlequin (I might have made that up) when his Aston breaks or the F1 is in for a twenty grand service.

Soon they'll all be driving C4 Cacti, because Citroen might have cracked the perfect second, third, fourth or tenth car.

Farewell car park dings!
Farewell car park dings!
Breath of fresh heir
You don't deserve to be called a proper PHer if you haven't at least for a microsecond considered life with a Dacia Duster. Here was a car that was interesting, tough, dirt cheap and, dare we say it, disposable. I know a Duster owner, with a small collection of supercars, who actually aims at kerbs when he parks it, will never service it and will only wash it when the police accuse him of perverting the course of justice on account of his mud-caked number plates.

What's stopped most normal people actually buying the Duster was the so-so drive, horrible interior and the fact it looks like it's been designed during the Cold War.

The Cactus is for those people. It takes the concept of utilitarian motoring Citroen practically invented in the thirties with the 2CV and lathers the Duster concept with some French polish.

Drives like an old Citroen (mostly a good thing)
Drives like an old Citroen (mostly a good thing)
See the light
When a car maker tells you it's shaved 200kg off the kerbweight of a car I think polycarbonate windows, carbon fibre, Akrapovic exhaust and no seats - but that's how much engineers claim is the difference in weight between the C4 hatch and the Cactus.

Of course they're lying. I'd wager most of that weight saving comes from using a smaller modified DS3 undergarments instead of the larger C4 platform, but there has been genuine weight saving, some cynical, some inspired.

The bonnet, for example, is aluminium, the windscreen washer jets are also incorporated into the wipers and are so efficient the washer reservoir is half the size, saving 1.5kg.

The rear pop out windows (-11kg) and the one-piece rear seat (-6kg) are less convincing- yep, a family car that doesn't have split folding seats even as an option isn't useful.

Thankfully almost all of this can be forgiven by the attention to detail that has been lavished on the Citroen.

Surprise and delight aplenty here
Surprise and delight aplenty here
'Airbump' might sound like an informal greeting of two annoying American college kids but it's actually the plastic door pads the Cactus proudly wears - the perfect amour for car parks and the end to those infuriating car park dents inflicted by clumsy sociopaths.

Inside is where you'll find the Cactus' best feature.

Forget the Dacia's hard plastics, or others' soft plastics that try and fail to replicate the feeling of quality of a terminally dull small Volkswagen. No, here we have something that feels genuinely new from the cool faux leather door pulls, to the seventies soft furnishings. It even has a fifties suitcase glovebox that offers lots of storage (the passenger airbag lives in the roof - a world first Citroen claim.)

One slight gripe is ventilation is limited. Curiously, for the front passenger there's only one large air vent that wasn't close to being enough on our drive on only a warm day.

Biggest crime from a PH perspective is the lack of a rev counter on the cool LCD display ahead of the steering wheel.

No PH hero, but rather appealing nonetheless
No PH hero, but rather appealing nonetheless
Indicator of the times
Citroen says Cactus owners can will rely instead on the upshift indicator for economy driving, I of course relied on the sudden, but sure intervention of the rev limiter.

Initially there's the choice of 75, 82 and 110hp versions of the 1.2-litre petrol and a 92 and 100hp version of the 1.6-litre HDI diesel, with the more powerful Blue HDI able to average 91.1mpg.

The most powerful 1.2-litre still delivers low running costs (60.1mpg) but offers reasonable pace too. It is a vocal performer, sometimes sounding glorious when you're working it but more often a bit rough and ready.

For some inexplicable reason the Cactus launch was in Amsterdam and the roads were predictably dull, but the Cactus rode well and, get over the body roll and the Citroen offered some throttle adjustability. It all feels a world away from a Duster powered by a wheezy 1.6 petrol.

Cactus much more than just a bold design
Cactus much more than just a bold design
There's also plenty of in-car tech lacking in its Romanian rival, like help for those who can't park, assistance for those struggle with hill starts and a centrally mounted tablet that mimics an iPad but isn't as good as an iPad. You will also hate how there's no manual override for the climate control and you have to interrupt the navigation to adjust.

The Cactus will never be the perfect PH car. There's no four-wheel drive option, it's significantly pricier than the Dacia and I doubt it will be setting any new Nurburgring records in the near future (Ed - that sounds like a challenge), but what is most surprising is the Cactus might just be the most likeable Citroen since the Xsara VTS - and that's something we should all celebrate.

Put it on your list when you get your million pound car collection and make sure you never, ever wash it.


CITROEN C4 CACTUS PURETECH FLAIR 110 S&S
Engine:
1,199cc 3-cyl turbo
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 110@5,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 151@1,500rpm
0-62mph: 9.3sec
Top speed: 117mph
Weight: 1,020kg
MPG: 60.1mpg
CO2: 107g/km
Price: £17,195 (est)






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405dogvan

Original Poster:

5,326 posts

265 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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I can't help thinking people will see that side-panelling and think "let's kick it and see if it's bouncy"...

The ACTUAL solution to car park dings is to drive a snotter - it's hilarious parking those next to Mr or Mrs DebtRidden in their "newer than the neighbours, bought to make us happier"-mobile

Which, when I come to think about it, is where 90% of these are going to wind-up, isn't it?

p.s. I should add that I'm all for modern Citroens which carry some of what a Citroen should be - but I'm not sure this is it. I saw a Xantia Estate yesterday tho and that made me smile ;0

QuattroDave

1,466 posts

128 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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I absolutely would have one.

Personally think it looks great, especially in loud colours!

Would not be ashamed to have on my drive

smilo996

2,791 posts

170 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Comment of the article:

Indicator of the times
Citroen says Cactus owners can will rely instead on the upshift indicator for economy driving, I of course relied on the sudden, but sure intervention of the rev limiter

It is great to see PSA not trying to compete with the seas of grey, black and three letter systems brigade to the East. Put character back into people's motoring.

boyse7en

6,723 posts

165 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Love it.

But then I am a bit of a Citroenista

Have to wait for it to be shed money

Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Estimated 17K price? Seems expensive?


Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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405dogvan said:
The ACTUAL solution to car park dings is to drive a snotter - it's hilarious parking those next to Mr or Mrs DebtRidden in their "newer than the neighbours, bought to make us happier"-mobile

Which, when I come to think about it, is where 90% of these are going to wind-up, isn't it?

p.s. I should add that I'm all for modern Citroens which carry some of what a Citroen should be - but I'm not sure this is it. I saw a Xantia Estate yesterday tho and that made me smile ;0
Its 2014 FFS.

Move with the times old man...

Otispunkmeyer

12,593 posts

155 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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That is a amazing.

The article definitely needs a proof read mind.

FestivAli

1,088 posts

238 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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I can forgive it for being ugly because it's a Citroen, and that's how Citroens should be (SM excluded of course). I think it's a kinda cool looking thing, but lack of ventilation is gonna make it useless here in Aus.

Fetchez la vache

5,572 posts

214 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Wholy crap, I hadn't realised they were actually making these! Kudos to sit ron.
However, the price is too high for a snotter.

Pat H

8,056 posts

256 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Quite appealing in a daft Citroen sort of way.

And I think that "Cactus" is a great name.

Can't imagine paying much money for one, though. Would definitely wait til it is a used car bargain.

smile






Luke.

10,991 posts

250 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Was all set to get one of these, as I think they're great. But now jumped on the leased Golf R bandwagon.. Can't imagine the Cactus would be much cheaper.

Bigchiefmuffin

46 posts

202 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Looking the pic of the interior & dash, I can swear I can't count at least 3 vents - article says there is only 1 ?

okie592

2,711 posts

167 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Mr E said:
Estimated 17K price? Seems expensive?
Not when you can spend more than that on a ecoboost fiesta

Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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okie592 said:
Mr E said:
Estimated 17K price? Seems expensive?
Not when you can spend more than that on a ecoboost fiesta
But much less on a PSA derived Duster to fill petty much the same niche?

(Edit; actually, a Dacia is Renault derived is it not?)

Kolbenkopp

2,343 posts

151 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Bigchiefmuffin said:
Looking the pic of the interior & dash, I can swear I can't count at least 3 vents - article says there is only 1 ?
"Curiously, for the front passenger there's only one large air vent".

Not quite my thing. But great that Cit are making these. Especially like the consideration taken regarding avoiding dings and scratches. Hope this sets a trend for utility type vehicles. Sadly, the world is full of clumsy sociopaths...

Edited by Kolbenkopp on Monday 23 June 11:47

S10GTA

12,678 posts

167 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Give it 5 years and I'll pick one up for a couple of grand. Love the concept.

eglin

16 posts

118 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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With regards to the price being estimated at £17k that's for the most powerful petrol looking at it. If you wanted to sacrifice a bit of power I'm sure the lower powered petrol variants and maybe the weakest diesel would be a grand or two cheaper.

S10GTA

12,678 posts

167 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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eglin said:
With regards to the price being estimated at £17k that's for the most powerful petrol looking at it. If you wanted to sacrifice a bit of power I'm sure the lower powered petrol variants and maybe the weakest diesel would be a grand or two cheaper.
From 13k iirc

Dazed & Confused

202 posts

204 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Pat H said:
Would definitely wait til it is a used car bargain.
Agreed - I'll almost certaily be looking out for on of these in a few years.

I just hope the new buyers choose it in the funky colours that work so well on it. I fear, however, it will be another case of that oh-so-British disease - speccing a new car for its resale value.

'We've decided on a Cactus, as we loved the pictures of it in brown or yellow or orange, and we want a car that's a bit different from the crowd. So we'll have it in black with black airbumps, please.'

okie592

2,711 posts

167 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Mr E said:
But much less on a PSA derived Duster to fill petty much the same niche?

(Edit; actually, a Dacia is Renault derived is it not?)
You could argue that for any car in any segment