RE: A708 Moffat to Selkirk: My Dream Drive

RE: A708 Moffat to Selkirk: My Dream Drive

Thursday 3rd July 2014

A708 Moffat to Selkirk: My Dream Drive

The Highlands aren't necessarily the best place to drive in Scotland, as the A708 proves



Name: Danny Milner
Where: A708, Scottish Borders
Car used:Clio Renaultsport 200 Turbo

Fierce cambers and undulations abound
Fierce cambers and undulations abound
The route:
From the spa town of Moffat, the A708 spears diagonally across border country to Selkirk. For anyone heading to Edinburgh from the west of England, it forms part of a wonderfully rewarding and scenic alternative to the M74/M8, or taken on its own merits, it's a classic drive that dilutes the magic of the Highlands into a truly iconic stretch of road. Options to turn it into a loop are many and varied and, at 35 miles, there's more than enough room to stretch your legs.

Why it's a dream drive:
Hills and lochs, just a scattering of remote dwellings and a remarkable sequence of dips, crests and bends; need I say more? The Scottish Borders is frequently forgotten when debating Britain's best driving roads, but the A708 has to rank among one of the most testing stretches of Tarmac anywhere in the UK. There are technical challenges aplenty and it's riddled with awkward depressions and cambers that'll quickly separate the men from the baeys when it comes to chassis dynamics.

It was in fact a drive down this road that formed the impetus to finally spend some time adjusting the damper settings on my S1 Elise. Now, with softer suspension I have a far closer affinity with the handling and a car with immeasurably better road manners. More recently, I tackled it in the PH Fleet Clio Renaultsport 200 Turbo - and, although it was a completely different experience, it was one that shone a very bright spotlight on its impeccable, rally-inspired dampers.

It's an hour without stops. A very good hour
It's an hour without stops. A very good hour
Whatever your chariot, the A708 gradually ramps up the pace and difficulty, allowing ample time to get the fluids warm and the blood pumping. From Moffat it's lined with stone walls and hedges, which restrict vision and encourage a sensible tempo. Overhanging trees and narrow pinch-points further temper any early over-enthusiasm, so it's best to just settle in and enjoy the surroundings at first.

Soon enough, though, the vegetation falls away and the sightlines improve. Smooth, freshly laid Tarmac is a delight, but it's draped over a landscape that has been left virtually as nature intended. That means you roll with the plunges, float with the humps and continuously weave in and out of wee burns and clefts as it contours along the side of a valley.

After topping out at 338m, the undulations and cambers begin to iron out and the road descends into a long section of sweeping bends. Now you're hugging the shoreline of St Mary's Loch with the light flickering on and off as dense forests close in on the verge. Back out into the open and the road begins to buck and writhe once more. You'll reach a crossroads at the Gordon Arms Hotel; time to make a decision. Continue straight on to Selkirk, turn right for a brilliant, deserted, singletrack-to-double B709 to Lockerbie or head left for Innerleithen, Peebles and on to Edinburgh. Whatever choice you make, you won't be disappointed.

You won't find much other traffic up here
You won't find much other traffic up here
Highlights and lowlights:
It's hard to single out a few bits when the whole stretch from Capplegill to the Gordon Arms Hotel is so brilliant. But the parts that leave the biggest impression are the series of yumps and bumps west of St Mary's Loch (equally, try not to leave an impression on the road with your sump!) and the lengthy run alongside the loch itself. On a rather more emotional level, the feeling of flow delivered by the lochside section is also something special.

There are barely any houses on the route, side roads are virtually non-existent and the area has fewer signs of life than the Marie Celeste. What traffic there is can be safely dispatched on the numerous and well-sighted straights. Just keep an eye out for sheep and farm traffic. Other than that, I can't think of a single bad thing about this road.

Sights, stop-offs and diversions:
An obvious place to split the drive is the Glen Cafe between St Mary's Loch and Loch of the Lowes. For a more involving diversion, continue past the café for a few kilometers before turning left onto a single track road. This heads up to the beautiful Megget Reservoir and spectacular Talla Reservoir, at which point, faced with such a stunning landscape, you'll probably ask yourself why the Highlands get all the attention.

Follow the route here.


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Dyl

Original Poster:

1,251 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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I think this has just inspired my next early morning run in the car! Moffat is only 50 miles from me.

alexnaderinkram

14 posts

119 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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There a certainly plenty of fun roads in that area. If you're heading south on the A68,the turn off to Kelso is also a very entertaining run. In fact,the A68 right the way from Edinburgh to Newcastle is pretty entertaining in general.

ws323f

56 posts

179 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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One of my favourite drives too. I usually head down about 8pm on a summer evening, and nine times out of ten never come across another car on the road.

One thing I have occasionally come across though are packs of cyclists !

ant leigh

714 posts

143 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Great drive, was up their earlier this summer.
Managed the Yorkshire Dales, Kielder, Hawick, cross country to St Mary's Loch then down to Moffat.
Brilliant, especially as there is a great Italian restaurant on the way into Moffat to finish off the day. lickcoffee

On another note, that's nearly 6 hours driving in the Elise in one stint and no major problems with my back, legs, neck etc, the Probax seats are really excellent.

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Not my favourite drive, I did it Selkirk to Moffat a few weeks ago and failed to spot a small rock in the road (there were plenty of them, washed down by rain I imagine) which punctured my nearside front tyre - £191 for a replacement.

ED209

5,746 posts

244 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Drove this road myself last year when on a mountain biking trip and even in my octavia estate, fully loaded with two bikes on the back it was an excellent road to drive.

ED209

5,746 posts

244 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Drove this road myself last year when on a mountain biking trip and even in my octavia estate, fully loaded with two bikes on the back it was an excellent road to drive.

tvrolet

4,271 posts

282 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Meh. Or should that be Baa.

Decent enough road, but too many sheep wandering on the carriageway often round blind bends for part of the route at least. Rode a Fife-Moffat-Selkirk-Peebles-File loop a couple of Sunday's ago and slowed when some of the oncoming [bike] traffic was waving to slow down...and sure enough about a dozen sheep right in the middle of the road round a blind bend. OK they're kept at bay with cattle grids as you get to St Mary's loch...but something to look out for.

wokkadriver

695 posts

242 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Just about all the A70x series of roads from the West up to Edinburgh are a delight - I used to go to Uni in Aberdeen and took great delight in them all on my way there/back. I think the 702 from the Abington services unto Edinburgh is one of the best and less travelled than many, making it an easier run with less trucks to contend with!

southpaw

5,999 posts

225 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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This is a fantastic road! Stunning scenery too, shame the article pictures were taken on a grey day, as it looks amazing in the sunshine:


RedSwede

261 posts

194 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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tvrolet said:
Meh. Or should that be Baa.

Decent enough road, but too many sheep wandering on the carriageway often round blind bends for part of the route at least. Rode a Fife-Moffat-Selkirk-Peebles-File loop a couple of Sunday's ago and slowed when some of the oncoming [bike] traffic was waving to slow down...and sure enough about a dozen sheep right in the middle of the road round a blind bend. OK they're kept at bay with cattle grids as you get to St Mary's loch...but something to look out for.
This should always be borne in mind on any drive. Just because the car is not falling off the road round a bend does not mean it's not too fast. There could be anything round any blind bend - sheep, rock, tractor, farm entrance, fallen off cyclist.

I love going for a good drive (and living in this area, I do, a lot), and there is no reason why people can't use the public road for fun and enjoyment. But if your driving is not able to take into account most possibilities, then it has to be considered dangerous. Making safe progress is far more skilled than just lobbing it at a corner as quick as you think it will go round - though there are times that is appropriate...

/Roadcraft

Highway Star

3,576 posts

231 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Nice road, but please watch out for sheep, cyclists and bikers, especially if you want to take the 'deserted' single track road to Lockerbie. My MIL had to take to a verge due to a hooner who came around a blind bend a few months back seemingly thinking it was a closed road rolleyes

Chimune

3,179 posts

223 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Agree with this blog. We camp at Megget regularly - fab !
I think the main photo is Megget no ?

truck71

2,328 posts

172 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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FFS, these "7" roads are a great place to drive, stop advertising the fact.

Gilhooligan

2,214 posts

144 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Usually go the a701 (also a good road imo) to Moffat but might have to take this route for a change!

madmarsie

122 posts

151 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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i agree that this is a great road. Glen cafe is well worth a stop especially for brekkie smile . But the loch side carpark can be difficult for low slung motors



ryanthescot

287 posts

154 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Riley Blue said:
Not my favourite drive, I did it Selkirk to Moffat a few weeks ago and failed to spot a small rock in the road (there were plenty of them, washed down by rain I imagine) which punctured my nearside front tyre - £191 for a replacement.
The same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. Just as I got out of Moffat and at the first traffic lights where it goes to a singe track, came round a bend and hit a stone puncturing the tyre. It was a Sunday so I had to get the car recovered to a local garage and leave it there so I could get a tyre ordered and pick it back up during the week. Pain in the erse!

H100S

1,436 posts

173 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Awesome road indeed.
Loved riding this on the Moto Guzzi last year, stunning scenery. Also the road north out of Moffat is also very good too, in fact link this to peebles then back to Selkirk gives you the Moffat triangle once completed simply turn back around and do it the other way!

Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

154 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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One of my absolute favourites, especially as you can divert onto so many great roads. Take a north turn at Innerleithen and head up the granites or go cross country from St Mary's Loch to Talla there are so many fabulous roads which you might bypass heading north or south. Great write up and get this road on your bucket list!

garym3m5

777 posts

117 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Remember discovering this road on a late summers evening trying to short cut to Kelso with my pal c7 years ago. Not many places in the uk you can drive for 45 minutes without seeing another car/person. As the light was fading it became eerie, with the urge to drive a bit quicker to reach civilisation. Once darkness arrived the road also became littered with rabbits! Great fun...