Taking the Michael-Servicing:replacement parts

Taking the Michael-Servicing:replacement parts

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simpo555

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560 posts

164 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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Just got an estimate back from my Lotus specialist over here in France. I don't wish to name the garage but there aren't that many.

Originally an estimate for changing the front discs on my Exige 240 PP.(Big Brakes) Includes pads, fluids etc etc. So start off at around the £1400 mark. Then decided to have an estimate for a general check up. The estimate comes back with one or two surprises and one or two add ons that I really don't appreciate. Not certain how they work out what should be changed.

Amongst other things, they noted spark plugs. My current ones were changed less than 1000 miles ago.
They have put 4 coils on the estimate. Don't understand that one.
Service B is also listed, with spark plugs being included-why should I need new plugs in a service if they are listed separately as an item to change, and Im certain they have a longer life than 1000 miles
There is a charge for test driving the car after the service(£40)

Anyway, a lengthy bill which ends up at £4200. I knew about the discs and pads when I bought the car.

I think they forgot to charge for the tap water used to top up the window washer, no doubt another £50

Suffice to say my car will be going elsewhere. I think Thierry Verhiest in Ostend who were excellent when dealing with my last problem.

It might even be worth my while to come across to the UK for a trip. Hangar 111 or perhaps somewhere in Kent.

As for the discs, do I stick to original parts or should I consider other discs. I was quoted for AP Perce.




gianlu

215 posts

179 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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simpo555 said:
Just got an estimate back from my Lotus specialist over here in France. I don't wish to name the garage but there aren't that many.

Originally an estimate for changing the front discs on my Exige 240 PP.(Big Brakes) Includes pads, fluids etc etc. So start off at around the £1400 mark. Then decided to have an estimate for a general check up. The estimate comes back with one or two surprises and one or two add ons that I really don't appreciate. Not certain how they work out what should be changed.

Amongst other things, they noted spark plugs. My current ones were changed less than 1000 miles ago.
They have put 4 coils on the estimate. Don't understand that one.
Service B is also listed, with spark plugs being included-why should I need new plugs in a service if they are listed separately as an item to change, and Im certain they have a longer life than 1000 miles
There is a charge for test driving the car after the service(£40)

Anyway, a lengthy bill which ends up at £4200. I knew about the discs and pads when I bought the car.

I think they forgot to charge for the tap water used to top up the window washer, no doubt another £50

Suffice to say my car will be going elsewhere. I think Thierry Verhiest in Ostend who were excellent when dealing with my last problem.

It might even be worth my while to come across to the UK for a trip. Hangar 111 or perhaps somewhere in Kent.

As for the discs, do I stick to original parts or should I consider other discs. I was quoted for AP Perce.

308mm discs and lorraine rc5 pads are about gbp 750.
Despite the weak euro, it is probably better to get to the uk, closer to the ferries you have analogue automotive, Steff has a lot of experience on lotii and a top guy (same as greg atH111 tbh).

Here is the price list for services. I struggle to make it from here to 4200. Heck, i struggle to make it to half of that!

https://www.facebook.com/AnalogueAutomotive/app_19...


SeanyD

3,375 posts

200 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Might be worth trying europarts.com for the parts, they same very competitive compared to dealer prices.

DH2

311 posts

264 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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It can be hard to say with a "general check up", but feel free to give us a call at H111 to discuss an alternative estimate.

DH2
(hope I'm not breaking any posting rules - other Lotus specialists are available etc.)

simpo555

Original Poster:

560 posts

164 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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DH2 said:
It can be hard to say with a "general check up", but feel free to give us a call at H111 to discuss an alternative estimate.

DH2
(hope I'm not breaking any posting rules - other Lotus specialists are available etc.)
Thanks. I'll send a mail

jock mcsporran

5,004 posts

273 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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If you've got half an inkling of how to hold a spanner then the brakes and pads can easily be swapped over yourself. Otherwise, as mentioned, bank on about £750 for front discs and pads plus maybe an hour or two labour at most.
I don't think there's a cheaper aftermarket alternative for the AP discs although plenty of more expensive ones. Also, I preferred to go with Pagid RS4-2 pads as there has been a lengthy thread on SELOC about the Lorraine pads which didn't fill me with confidence.

They're really not that hard a car to work on and even main dealers will do servicing on the S for well under £500. There's a couple of extras depending on miles such as brake fluid/plugs/coolant/SC belt but none of it adds significant cost to the service.

SCEL1SE

307 posts

190 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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I think the only response to that quote is to actually have a laugh with them, that It is surely a joke.lol

simpo555

Original Poster:

560 posts

164 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Spoken to Hangar (UK) and Thierry Verhiest (Belgium)

Both extremely helpful and friendly.

Awaiting replies.

Just to underline how much the French are taking the p.ss, labour charges in France are 120 Euros. The Belgian Lotus dealers are at 60 euros. Half price.

Hoping to see the final bill at half price too! £2000 was largely what I'd budgeted for and it seems it should come in at around that figure. Still not cheap but was part of the negotiation when I bought my car

simpo555

Original Poster:

560 posts

164 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Just had the news back from Belgium. The work and parts will come in at around the £1300 mark.

Not only does the French dealer charge for add ons, they charge higher prices than official Lotus catalogue prices. All in all a scandalous affair. I'm raging at how they have the nerve to consider themselves as Lotus specialists but there we go. I refuse to name them but if you're ever stuck in Paris they are the only ones listed. They seem to have a good reputation which is strange. To me they are just like our friends in Birmingham who also remain nameless.

Anyway, once again, thanks to the people at Hangar for their friendly advice. I'd loved to have come across just to see the set up but that adds £300 to the costs.

simpo555

Original Poster:

560 posts

164 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Informed my Paris friends of my decision. They can't resist charging me £75 for the estimate.

Guess where I won't be going back to!