How many left

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B2UFO

Original Poster:

37 posts

129 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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How accurate is howmanyleft.co.uk? I tried to search for the Enzo but it's not showing. Another forum saying it's not that accurate and it's crap. Here's a list of all the Ferrari models it's showing




thegreenhell

15,328 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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That's a lot of missing Ferraris. Has anybody called the police?

More seriously, here's an explanation of what that means and why the Enzo may not appear: http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/about/#whichcars

LukeyLikey

855 posts

147 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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DVLA data is mostly accurate, other than the classification of various models. For instance, I don't think there are only 5 Speciales. Some of them will be recorded under the 458 Italia line. The same will be true for Scud, only some of which are registered on the database under the Scud total - others find their way into the 430 figures. CS does not even feature at all, so they are in the 360 figures.

For most brands the data is good enough because they are dealing in much larger numbers and have far fewer odd models percentage-wise. For niche brands like Ferrari it is much less accurate because of their lower volumes. Perhaps Ferrari doesn't mind that?…..

22s

6,338 posts

216 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Surprised there are that many SA Apertas, always thought there were only one or two for some reason.

Shmee

7,565 posts

213 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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22s said:
Surprised there are that many SA Apertas, always thought there were only one or two for some reason.
Whereas HROwen Ferrari in London actually sold more than 8 of the total themselves anyway, it's actually a conservative number for the reasons above.

22s

6,338 posts

216 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Shmee said:
22s said:
Surprised there are that many SA Apertas, always thought there were only one or two for some reason.
Whereas HROwen Ferrari in London actually sold more than 8 of the total themselves anyway, it's actually a conservative number for the reasons above.
Interesting, thanks!

jtremlett

1,375 posts

222 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Shmee said:
Whereas HROwen Ferrari in London actually sold more than 8 of the total themselves anyway, it's actually a conservative number for the reasons above.
HR Owen supplied 6 Apertas.

I have looked at the DVLA figures before and I cannot reconcile them. If you look at the cars first registered data and, for example, it shows 100 cars of a particular model registered new then I would expect to find the number taxed plus the number SORNed to total 100 but it never does and I'm not clear why.

Of course, the numbers also never include Northern or Southern Ireland or the Channel Islands which are all supplied through Ferrari in the UK.

Jonathan

Shmee

7,565 posts

213 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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jtremlett said:
HR Owen supplied 6 Apertas.
In which case somebody told me a porkie!

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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jtremlett said:
R Owen supplied 6 Apertas.

I have looked at the DVLA figures before and I cannot reconcile them. If you look at the cars first registered data and, for example, it shows 100 cars of a particular model registered new then I would expect to find the number taxed plus the number SORNed to total 100 but it never does and I'm not clear why.

Of course, the numbers also never include Northern or Southern Ireland or the Channel Islands which are all supplied through Ferrari in the UK.

Jonathan
dont forget exports and write offs..... exports in particular affect lambo/ferrari numbers

GRBF430F1

4,843 posts

170 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Looks like 16 M and Scuderia are the cars to have if you can find a decent one anymore.
Only 1 x 16m and 4 RHD Scuds for sale at the moment

Only 5 Performantes as well :-) Right off to add a Scud to the collection

jtremlett

1,375 posts

222 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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70proof said:
dont forget exports and write offs..... exports in particular affect lambo/ferrari numbers
Yes indeed. But what I meant was if a car is showing on the numbers as registered new in the UK (DVLA statistics reference VEH160) then you would surely expect it to immediately show up on the taxed (VEH120) or SORN (VEH121) figures for that quarter but the numbers don't tie up. I don't know what the explanation is but I don't discount some kind of error in how the DVLA extract their licensing data especially given it is only something they do because they have to rather than being a core task for them.

Jonathan

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Maybe some exported cars are registered but never taxed.... Esp if buyer wants to buy a used car for import reasons...

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Shmee said:
22s said:
Surprised there are that many SA Apertas, always thought there were only one or two for some reason.
Whereas HROwen Ferrari in London actually sold more than 8 of the total themselves anyway, it's actually a conservative number for the reasons above.
reminded me of this car..... read the comments...... the car has 77 miles on it!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/TopazDetailing/posts/7784...

ZeusF

377 posts

123 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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My car is registered as a Gallardo coupe with 490hp.
It's not the first car I've owned with the wrong listing so I reckon that messes up these types of suggested records.

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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the numbers are complete crap

for example, each year's number of lamborghinis listed under model unknown exceeds the total of all the listed known models !