Brembo vs Pagid brake discs and pads?

Brembo vs Pagid brake discs and pads?

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Renn Sport

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2,761 posts

208 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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So time has come for me to replace my brake discs and pads on the e46 328ci. Are the Brembo discs and pads (from GSF) that much better then the Pagid ones (from Euro) at half the price?

Its not a track day car and is used for commuting. However I still enjoy my braking ability.

Thoughts appreciated.

Feirny

2,500 posts

146 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Pagids are the better of the two in my experience, which is extensive. My Megane R26 currently has Pagid fitted all round with another set in the garage for when the time comes.

A BMW specialist local to me will also only fit Pagid to vehicles.

  • I used to work for one of the above suppliers.

Swervin_Mervin

4,429 posts

237 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Whereas I'm led to believe the Pagid aren't even close to being as good as the Brembo items. At least not the cheap items that ECP sell. Presumably that's why they're so cheap.

Brembo discs are IME, superb. Used to fit the GSF ones all the time to my French cars that were tracked.


BritishRacinGrin

24,602 posts

159 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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OEM BMW every time for me. Neither the Brembos nor the Pagid are an 'upgrade' product- only an 'OEM equavalent'. OEM parts are the best 'OEM equivalent' on the market.

I have been consistently disappointed with OEM equivalent pads even from the big names.

Dannbodge

2,160 posts

120 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Never had any issues with pagid discs or pads.

I would check BMW parts counter though, Older car parts aren't as expensive as you might think.

Renn Sport

Original Poster:

2,761 posts

208 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Thanks for the feedback. I have fitted Pagid to many of my cars in the past and to be honest have never had any real issues. However I do appreciate quality if its affordable, which the Brembo items seem to be.

However there hasn't been a conclusive opinion here. Hmmnn

I'll have a coffee and think about it. Need to get the parts tomorrow as the car is booked in for this work.

EssexIan

135 posts

282 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Pagid come from the same manufacturer as Textar, the manufacturer of OE BMW brake pads! They really aren't a cheap or nasty product! Pagid is just a retail brand name of the group who produce Textar and many other well known brake part and other friction material brands. Have a little internet search and you'll soon see.

Ian

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

260 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Just fitted Pagid pads all round on my RRS S/c which has Brembo callipers on the front, got to say with the new discs (drilled and grooved) they are a massive improvement in stopping 2500kg.

andyiley

9,105 posts

151 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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I havre to say I am Pagid through & through, never had any issues, top quality kit IMHO.

redtwin

7,518 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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http://www.tmdfriction.com/

whistle

They also produce Eicher which is an ECP offering.

Renn Sport

Original Poster:

2,761 posts

208 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Ok I can't argue with a 45% saving on buying Pagid over Brembo.

After all this is just a tidy work hack.

Thanks guys I am swayed. Placing the order tomorrow.

Feirny

2,500 posts

146 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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redtwin said:
http://www.tmdfriction.com/

whistle

They also produce Eicher which is an ECP offering.
Made in a separate factory in Scotland, the same factory as Mintex. Pagids are produced in Germany along with their Textar counterparts.

blank

3,439 posts

187 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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They're not necessarily the same as the OEM parts though. There are almost certainly differences in friction material, slots, chamfers, shims etc.

They will probably be absolutely fine for normal use but they won't have been through all the same tests as the OEM part.

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

240 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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The Pagids are certainly cheap but they squeal on my Evo and seem to be bad for pad deposits on my discs.

BritishRacinGrin

24,602 posts

159 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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blank said:
They're not necessarily the same as the OEM parts though. There are almost certainly differences in friction material, slots, chamfers, shims etc.

They will probably be absolutely fine for normal use but they won't have been through all the same tests as the OEM part.
This. Everybody comes out with this "erm well it's the same manufacturer as OEM", not realising that the manufacturer makes hundreds of variations of compounds and that there is a world of difference between a cheap OEM equivalent pad and an OEM pad even within the same manufacturer.

Still, people love a perceived bargain.

OEM pads just feel right to me.

RC1

4,096 posts

218 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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blank said:
They're not necessarily the same as the OEM parts though. There are almost certainly differences in friction material, slots, chamfers, shims etc.

They will probably be absolutely fine for normal use but they won't have been through all the same tests as the OEM part.
Nicely put

After becoming friendly with my localish bmw parts counter and realising that value line parts are actually quite reasonable, bmw is now my first port of call for all consumables

check out their ebay shop its well stocked surprisingly

LC23

1,285 posts

224 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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Obviously you need to do your own research and come to your own conclusions. But in AM circles it is pretty well known that the Pagid RS 4-2-2 pads sold by ECP are the same pads as fitted by Aston. Just without the huge mark up. There is no separate compound or different "spec". I have seen the Pagid pads from ECP and compared to those as fitted by AM - they are the same.

Renn Sport

Original Poster:

2,761 posts

208 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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Nice.

Pagids are being fitted as I type.

golders

141 posts

273 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Were the Pagids good?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

260 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Despite my love of the Pagids, they are nothing compared to the EBC yellow stuff and EBC discs I've fitted.

But this is to my Range Rover Sport, not a Beemer.