Car's not here, but the mods have begun

Car's not here, but the mods have begun

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KarlFranz

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2,008 posts

270 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Q can't just sit idle until late September, so the upgrade program has begun. smile

Here's a sneak peek at some of the things in store:


































Edited by KarlFranz on Thursday 21st August 13:32

W1111AM

942 posts

129 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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KF, exciting!!
Seat Switches: nice!!

Kick plate badge: that's protective yellow covering right or are you going all out for the yellow to match your stitching?

Fibre-glass wing mirror covers: handmade, this is a seriously big effort, I am very impressive Sir! What is your experience background? You must have done this before. It's not for the faint hearted GRP style activities...?

Do you remember my GT4 tailgate badge? I haven't forgotten you wanted one, sorry just haven't finished my new dash fascias. It will be done for end of September and will know then if I need to do another casting run, or have an existing one spare for you.

hashluck

1,612 posts

275 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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So the seat switches are from a different car. Interessting to see how that goes since they are so much nicer

yeti

10,523 posts

275 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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hashluck said:
So the seat switches are from a different car. Interessting to see how that goes since they are so much nicer
What are they, Jag?

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Mad as ever!
What are you planning with the Vanquish steering wheel controls?

Gibberish

568 posts

143 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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KarlFranz said:
Q can't just sit idle until late September, so the upgrade program has begun. smile

Here's a sneak peek at some of the things in store:



How do yours differ in operation to this Virage switch below?



krisdelta

4,566 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Karl - you're a legend! Looking forward to seeing them in-situ.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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If someone could find a way of easily (and cost effectively) replacing the rubbish plastic switches in the Vantage, there would be no shortage of buyers.

Laser Sag

2,860 posts

243 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Gibberish said:
KarlFranz said:
Q can't just sit idle until late September, so the upgrade program has begun. smile

Here's a sneak peek at some of the things in store:



How do yours differ in operation to this Virage switch below?

Would hazard a guess at lumbar support by the look of it.

Be interesting to see it all progress, can't think I would ever be taking a brand new AM and carrying out alterations to it.

KarlFranz

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2,008 posts

270 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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W1111AM said:
Kick plate badge: that's protective yellow covering right or are you going all out for the yellow to match your stitching?
Unlike the N430, the graphics pack on the GT is optional. Unfortunately, it's an all-or-nothing affair. I wasn't to keen on having yellow on the A-pillar/Cant Rail so I decided that I'm going to do just the parts I want in yellow by myself instead. The yellow stitching and accent stripe on the seats will tie-in with the exterior yellow accents, the kick plate badges and the brake calipers.


W1111AM said:
Fibre-glass wing mirror covers: handmade, this is a seriously big effort, I am very impressive Sir! What is your experience background? You must have done this before. It's not for the faint hearted GRP style activities...?
The only other time I've attempted doing carbon fiber work was when I did some parts for my 07 V8V. I did the mirror covers for that car as well but I couldn't use them on the GT4 because the mirrors are larger.

Here's a picture of what the ones I made for the V8V wound up looking like:

KarlFranz

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2,008 posts

270 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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hashluck said:
So the seat switches are from a different car. Interessting to see how that goes since they are so much nicer
yeti said:
What are they, Jag?
whoami said:
If someone could find a way of easily (and cost effectively) replacing the rubbish plastic switches in the Vantage, there would be no shortage of buyers.
Laser Sag said:
Would hazard a guess at lumbar support by the look of it.
The seat controls are from the Vanquish II/Rapide. The difference between them and the ones on the Virage/DB9.2 is that they include the lumbar adjustment. Due to the seat re-design, lunbar control is no longer located on the inboard lower seat bolster itself.

The way the seat controls work is completely different from the older platic model (which is now only found on the Vantage line). In a nutshell: the new ones multiplex all the seat functions onto 3 wires whereas the older one had a dedicated pair of wires for each individual seat motor. This is the reason that some who tried to get Aston to change their seat controls when ordering a new car were denied their request. It's not a simple swap of parts. In fact, in order to do the change I will be designing a new circuit board for the new switches so that they interface to the car the way the older switches do.

KarlFranz

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2,008 posts

270 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Laser Sag said:
Be interesting to see it all progress, can't think I would ever be taking a brand new AM and carrying out alterations to it.
I always feel the need to create and be unique. As long as you have the skills to do a good job and can afford it, there's nothing wrong with making these mods. Every alteration I have made to Astons was done with a goal of being fully reversible to original specification. I accomplish this by either buying spare parts or fabricating my own.

So far, my modificaton work has paid off: I sold my 07 V8V last month for $25,000(US) more than what the AM dealer offered me in trade for the new 2015 GT I ordered. In fact, I wound up selling the 07MY for almost the same amount I bought it for alsmost 4 years earlier.

Edited by KarlFranz on Thursday 21st August 14:23

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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So what re you planning got the Vanquish steering wheel controls

KarlFranz

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2,008 posts

270 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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mikey k said:
So what re you planning got the Vanquish steering wheel controls
I'm thinking of installing those instead of the standard switches because I like the look better. I even contemplated using the "Sport" button on the right as a mute button for my radar detector. I'm not sure yet. The circuit is slightly different in the Vanquish controls. They both use a type of resistor ladder that varies the resistance across two terminals depending on which switch is pressed. However, the resistor values are different and they are surface-mounted onto the circuit board, so I may have to do a bit of surgery on the new controls to make them work like the older ones. smile

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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KarlFranz said:
mikey k said:
So what re you planning got the Vanquish steering wheel controls
I'm thinking of installing those instead of the standard switches because I like the look better. I even contemplated using the "Sport" button on the right as a mute button for my radar detector. I'm not sure yet. The circuit is slightly different in the Vanquish controls. They both use a type of resistor ladder that varies the resistance across two terminals depending on which switch is pressed. However, the resistor values are different and they are surface-mounted onto the circuit board, so I may have to do a bit of surgery on the new controls to make them work like the older ones. smile
Nice touch
I was impressed with them when I drove the Vanquish Volante the other week.

Laser Sag

2,860 posts

243 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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KarlFranz said:
Laser Sag said:
Be interesting to see it all progress, can't think I would ever be taking a brand new AM and carrying out alterations to it.
I always feel the need to create and be unique. As long as you have the skills to do a good job and can afford it, there's nothing wrong with making these mods. Every alteration I have made to Astons was done with a goal of being fully reversible to original specification. I accomplish this by either buying spare parts or fabricating my own.

So far, my modificaton work has paid off: I sold my 07 V8V last month for $25,000(US) more than what the AM dealer offered me in trade for the new 2015 GT I ordered. In fact, I wound up selling the 07MY for almost the same amount I bought it for alsmost 4 years earlier.

Edited by KarlFranz on Thursday 21st August 14:23
I wasn't suggesting that there was anything wrong with doing the mods Karl Franz just that I wouldn't have the confidence to do it.

All credit to you for creating a machine that is individual to you.From the bits I have seen that you have carried out previously you definitely have the skills to do a good job.

steveatesh

4,899 posts

164 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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All respect to you Karl, I'm worrying about taking my door mirror off to tackle the dreaded black paint rot, and here you are fabricating carbon fibre and making your own circuit boards smile

Hope it looks as good as your last one, smile

divetheworld

2,565 posts

135 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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KarlFranz said:
I'm thinking of installing those instead of the standard switches because I like the look better. I even contemplated using the "Sport" button on the right as a mute button for my radar detector. I'm not sure yet. The circuit is slightly different in the Vanquish controls. They both use a type of resistor ladder that varies the resistance across two terminals depending on which switch is pressed. However, the resistor values are different and they are surface-mounted onto the circuit board, so I may have to do a bit of surgery on the new controls to make them work like the older ones. smile
The steering wheel controls are multiplexed before the clock spring. Being that the common factor is that the inputs are simply two state devices, you at worst should be able to cut the tracks on the vanq board and hard wire to an OEM board after removing the surface mount microswitches.
The hard part will be adding a function that wasn't there before like using the Sport button. Back in the 90's I built a new steering wheel that included full controls for an Alpine unit. The job was easy once I realised that there was no way to use the clock spring. I used RF control. you have the clues in front of you.
How often will you replace the battery on your remote for the exhaust valves? Years? Wire the remote switch to the "S" button and hide the remote in the steering wheel.
Just a thought.

Biggriff

2,312 posts

284 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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divetheworld said:
The steering wheel controls are multiplexed before the clock spring. Being that the common factor is that the inputs are simply two state devices, you at worst should be able to cut the tracks on the vanq board and hard wire to an OEM board after removing the surface mount microswitches.
The hard part will be adding a function that wasn't there before like using the Sport button. Back in the 90's I built a new steering wheel that included full controls for an Alpine unit. The job was easy once I realised that there was no way to use the clock spring. I used RF control. you have the clues in front of you.
How often will you replace the battery on your remote for the exhaust valves? Years? Wire the remote switch to the "S" button and hide the remote in the steering wheel.
Just a thought.
I understood all of that .... Right up to the point where you started typing.

Phil74891

1,067 posts

133 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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I thought I was being clever by asking them to leave the model name off the boot when I specced my V8VS.