X5 e70 - mot - front suspension ball joint play?

X5 e70 - mot - front suspension ball joint play?

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p1tse

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1,375 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Nearside Front Suspension arm has slight play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)

Offside Front Suspension arm has slight play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)

Likely meaning, cause, fix, cost?
What will this cause, handling, tyre wear?

Phateuk

751 posts

136 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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p1tse said:
Nearside Front Suspension arm has slight play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)

Offside Front Suspension arm has slight play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)

Likely meaning, cause, fix, cost?
What will this cause, handling, tyre wear?
These wear on all cars but at an accelerated rate on bigger heavy cars, I'd imagine a couple of hundred to replace both sides (not sure if the whole arm is replaced on these?)

Causes will be loose feeling steering and possibly increased tyre wear depending on how far gone they are. If you've had the car a while you may not have noticed the steering as its degraded over time. When you have the!m replaced you'll really feel an improvement smile

p1tse

Original Poster:

1,375 posts

191 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Phateuk said:
p1tse said:
Nearside Front Suspension arm has slight play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)

Offside Front Suspension arm has slight play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)

Likely meaning, cause, fix, cost?
What will this cause, handling, tyre wear?
These wear on all cars but at an accelerated rate on bigger heavy cars, I'd imagine a couple of hundred to replace both sides (not sure if the whole arm is replaced on these?)

Causes will be loose feeling steering and possibly increased tyre wear depending on how far gone they are. If you've had the car a while you may not have noticed the steering as its degraded over time. When you have the!m replaced you'll really feel an improvement smile
thanks for the reply
its a 2008 car with 72k bmw x5 so a heavy car

would be good if ball joint can just be replaced rather than whole arm for cost reasons

E30M3SE

8,465 posts

195 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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As they're described as arms on the MOT then its going to be parts #5 or 10 in the diagram, BMW don't sell ball joints separately only the whole arms.

p1tse

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1,375 posts

191 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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is 5 lower arm and 10 upper arm?

assume a decent wheel alignment required after too?

E30M3SE

8,465 posts

195 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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No, both are lower. #5 (tension strut/arm) is the front #10 (lower wishbone) the rear. Wishbone marked #16 is the upper.

You need to find out whether it is the front or rear arm ball joints that have the slight play.

It hasn't failed for having 'slight' play, has it?


p1tse

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1,375 posts

191 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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E30M3SE said:
No, both are lower. #5 (tension strut/arm) is the front #10 (lower wishbone) the rear. Wishbone marked #16 is the upper.

You need to find out whether it is the front or rear arm ball joints that have the slight play.

It hasn't failed for having 'slight' play, has it?
no not failed, but would like to research on cost to fix from advisory

Origin Unknown

2,293 posts

168 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Did you get this sorted OP?

My pal works for Mercedes and mine up on the lift yesterday to go over it. Play in nearside lower control arm and slightly less in the offside but I'm going to get both done.

Did you go OEM or after market like ECP? Haven't had time to get a price from BMW yet but ECP was ~£74 each. Double for OEM?

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Make sure you order Lemforder if buying from ECP, the Q-Link stuff is beyond terrible, you will be replacing it again within months.

Origin Unknown

2,293 posts

168 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Cheers for the steer on brand thumbup

E30M3SE

8,465 posts

195 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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gizlaroc said:
Make sure you order Lemforder if buying from ECP, the Q-LinkDrive stuff is beyond terrible, you will be replacing it again within months.
ETA. ^^ This.

Origin Unknown

2,293 posts

168 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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In case this is of interest to the other X5 owners out there.

Finally got around to getting new lower suspension arms fitted. BMW wanted £244.76 each side plus VAT and ECP and others only stocked Q-Link or TRW.

Ordered via ebay.de. They mailed me the next day asking for the VIN so they could ensure it was the correct part for my car. On my doorstep 2 days later. £146.81 for Lemforder, both sides, delivered thumbup

Had them fitted today and what an immediate difference to the steering and the brake shimmy has vanished.

X5E70driver

2 posts

97 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Hi, Do you still have the ebay user or item number for the suspension arm?

Ive got the same issue, and dont want to pay the dealer price.

Cheers

Origin Unknown

2,293 posts

168 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Login via ebay.de

Left: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Querlenker-Lenker-Radaufhan...
Right: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Querlenker-Lenker-Radaufhan...

Same shop I purchased from.

I used Chrome which translated the page making navigation easy.

Use the Add to Basket feature for both items and then purchase in one hit. They asked me for my VIN number to verify the parts were compatible and then shipped.

X5E70driver

2 posts

97 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Thanks

Skyler6871

2 posts

79 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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Mot fail due to ( Suspension arm has excessive play in a ball joint offside Front Lower ( rear ) [ 2 . 4 . G . 2 ] Could anyone tell which part this is cheers

Skyler6871

2 posts

79 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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🙈 sorry it's for a BMW X5 2002