RE: LA Confidential: PH Blog

RE: LA Confidential: PH Blog

Friday 21st November 2014

LA Confidential: PH Blog

The good, the bad and the mad from the 2014 Los Angeles Auto Show



Despite almost every journalist wandering around the LA Expo Center with a Starbucks cup, the first motor show media day was a quite relaxed affair. No pushing or shoving, lots of "you're welcome" and "thanks so much" and a real sense of positivity from everyone in attendance. Must be the weather.

Jaguar on fighting form at LA
Jaguar on fighting form at LA
Anyway, with LA still a very significant show for America, where better to start than with the domestic manufacturers? Ford was playing it coy with the Shelby Mustang; it knew a huge fanfare wasn't required, that the car would be sought out. So it was main stage for the new Expedition (really) and a small section in the corner for the GT350. Obviously that didn't stop it drawing a crowd.

But initially it's not the most exciting thing. That sounds ludicrous, I know. The extra menace of the front end is nice and the stripes are cool but there just seems to be some attitude missing. However, you soon notice a few little details that up the excitement; the front tyres are 295-section wide, big Brembo brakes could be seen through the wheels and some very serious bucket seats were also just visible. Moreover, it's probably worth remembering our idea of a Shelby Mustang in the UK is the old GT500, a much more extroverted and outlandish fast Mustang. Conveniently enough Ford showed the new car with an original GT350 which further reinforced the point; 500s are loud and silly in every sense, 350s are (relatively) subtle driver-focused machines. The Shelby is a very exciting car.

Race version of Caddy ATS-V looks suitably mean
Race version of Caddy ATS-V looks suitably mean
The GT350 showed how to pair function and form very well. The Cadillac ATS-V appears to cruelly undersell an intriguing mechanical package with a limp design. Both saloon and coupe look, to me, like a sporty trim package rather than a 450hp flagship. The front end is purposeful enough but that tension and energy around the arches and exhaust that makes the M3 so exciting is nowhere to be seen. As if to ram the point home, the GT3car was loitering just a few feet away, its brooding presence making the ATS-V look all the more meek. Shame.

There was an intangible air of confidence around Dodge for the whole day. Awards were on show, specs were boldly displayed and even the Mopar extras were shown off with a real sense of pride. Everyone still wants to talk about the Hellcats, the Dodge Ram can now tow over 30,000lbs (why? Because you can!) and even the little Jeep Renegade looks quite funky.

If you've got a 707hp V8 you may as well pop the hood
If you've got a 707hp V8 you may as well pop the hood
There's a real impression Dodge is going somewhere once again. And isn't it funny too how tech sharing can benefit some brands and not others? An infotainment system that comes across a bit low rent in a Maserati looks fantastic in a Dodge Challenger.

Chevrolet was massively dull by comparison. Aside from the Corvette, it was a range of fairly nondescript pick-ups, MPVs and saloons. I also don't think the UK is missing an awful lot without Buick, Lincoln and Acura.

If cars had emotions, the wonderful LFA Nurburgring Lexus wheeled out again would have wept at the sight of the yellow LF-C2 concept. How long until the two-tonne RC F cabrio? Erk. Toyota had a two-pronged approach for teasing stuff you can't have by showing the FT1 once more. Just build the damn thing Toyota. It's the only decent thing to do.

Maybach or Merc? Actually both!
Maybach or Merc? Actually both!
So then, to the Europeans in California. Here's a funny thing to start: both the Alfa Romeo and Maserati stands were very popular with the attending journalists despite neither displaying any new cars on their stands. I'll leave you to figure that one out...

Many, many tape measures were being wielded in the Discovery Sport's direction. But obviously there was only one destination on the JLR stand for my best heel and toe trainers; the manual F-Type. And it's, er, OK. Of course a gearbox can't be properly judged sat on the wrong side of the car not actually going anywhere. However, sat stationary pretending to drive like a child at a motor show (I stopped at screeching noises)the F-Type manual didn't feel superb. There are certainly positives, some great pedal placement and a tight gate being two but for now it doesn't feel like a great manual. The throw just isn't that short and the stick doesn't move quite as freely as you would like. It's very far from bad but doing the same in an MX-5 soon after shows what a properly sweet manual is like. Let's see how the Jag feels on the road.

Matt disappointed at lack of further gearstick waggling
Matt disappointed at lack of further gearstick waggling
Surprisingly Porsche did Jaguar a huge favour at LA. You know how Porsche is the purist sports car brand and Jaguar the luxury saloon makers only now venturing back to that market? Yes? Well Jaguar had more manual cars on its stand than Porsche. This is the same Porsche that talks of the GTS brand being the 'concentrated essence' of what the brand represents and the same Porsche that has apparently made great progress with the 911's seven-speed manual. There were 16 cars in the Porsche hall and not a single manual. Cayman GTS, Boxster GTS, 911 GTS and a basic Cayman, all fitted with paddles. That's so disappointing.

In two of the least surprising debuts of the LA show, the Audi Prologue concept looks a lot like other Audi concepts and the Maybach S-Class is a really luxurious S-Class that looks very much just like an S-Class and not a new Maybach. Actually the former statement is a little unfair; the back of the Audi Prologue bears a resemblance the last Saab 9-5.

Lexus LF C2 previews heavyweight cabrio
Lexus LF C2 previews heavyweight cabrio
How there can be BMW products so loathsome (X6 M) and so intensely desirable (Alpina B6 Gran Coupe) in the same floor space is mystifying. So too how Honda can justify making a show appearance with nothing more than a slightly uglier Jazz to show. Bring on the NSX...

You always leave a motor show coveting one car in particular. At LA this year that was the Lexus LFA Nurburgring. But I fear that's sort of missing the point. Nope, of new cars previewed it has to be that fierce Shelby Mustang that I want to drive most. If Jaguar can engineer a manual for the F-Type then surely Ford can give us a RHD Shelby?

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IN51GHT

Original Poster:

8,777 posts

209 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Oh dear, not a single mention this either - http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows/bloo...

redroadster

1,729 posts

231 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Lexus styling going from bland to extreme,.

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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IN51GHT said:
Oh dear, not a single mention this either - http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows/bloo...
Cosworth's dead F1 engine was too unreliable eh? biggrin

Claudia Skies

1,098 posts

115 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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These latest Mustangs look like a squinty-eyed Mondeo to me. All the original Mustang styling is gradually being removed as if the cars were being built in Korea for the Chinese market.

jamespink

1,218 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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How gorgeous is that grey Toyota? Tell me that has the LFA drivetrain...

daytona365

1,773 posts

163 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Why do all the latest semi supercars look like pumped up bulldogs with tummy upsets ? I'm old enough to remember Dino's, Miura's, Carrerra's, Frua AC's and even elegant Corniche's..........All cars with true style.

Edited by daytona365 on Thursday 20th November 15:29

danlowe42

52 posts

125 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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I know it's not new anymore but that FT1 looks stunning!

I think I have found Fords styling inspiration and it's not a horse...




rob.e

2,861 posts

277 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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jamespink said:
How gorgeous is that grey Toyota? Tell me that has the LFA drivetrain...
FT1 concept, yes its lovely. Doubt they'll build any.

LasseV

1,754 posts

132 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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rob.e said:
FT1 concept, yes its lovely. Doubt they'll build any.
They will build it, but it is going to be a turbo engined. And yeah, it is stunning....

oldtimer2

728 posts

132 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Maserati is getting attention because some real effort is being made to sell the brand in the USA. And with some success. Maseratis have outsold Jaguars at retail in each of the past three months. It is one more comeptitor to add to BMW, Mercedes and Audi. Audi also showed a new A8/A6 concept on which it would be interesting to get your views. The exterior looks quite good from the video clips.

crostonian

2,427 posts

171 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Perhaps I'm cynical but maybe the Alfa and Maserati stands were popular not for the cars on show but the quality of the females!

andrew.delamare

74 posts

254 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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LasseV said:
rob.e said:
FT1 concept, yes its lovely. Doubt they'll build any.
They will build it, but it is going to be a turbo engined. And yeah, it is stunning....
Its a tie up between Toyota and BMW to share the next gen Z4 platform. It should be built for sure.

oldtimer2

728 posts

132 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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crostonian said:
Perhaps I'm cynical but maybe the Alfa and Maserati stands were popular not for the cars on show but the quality of the females!
You may well be right about that. But apparently they did confirm they would go ahead with the Alfieri coupe and add a roadster version in 2017. Also they said there would be a Maserati SUV as well so the journos would have something to write about..

Escort Si-130

3,270 posts

179 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Same thing I was wondering, the last few car pics look like vacuum cleaners, lol

redroadster said:
Lexus styling going from bland to extreme,.