RE: Porsche Cayenne S: Spotted

RE: Porsche Cayenne S: Spotted

Tuesday 30th December 2014

Porsche Cayenne S: Spotted

Why? Because it's a V8 manual and therefore rather cool



The salesman's face with this Cayenne must have been superb. "Are you sure? The manual gearbox is very unpopular. And a great deal of customers have opted for the larger wheels as well. When it comes to resale time this will be..."

Surprise!
Surprise!
Yes, as Cayennes go this probably won't be the most desirable. The S it doesn't offer the incredible performance of the Turbo or the more palatable fuel economy of the V6 cars (remember the diesel didn't arrive until later). It's also on small (well, 19-inch) wheels and therefore isn't as imposing as those with big rims; heck, even the glass isn't tinted. Then there's that silly stick sprouting between the seats and a third pedal by the brake. What a damn nuisance when you just want to select drive and pick the children up.

But for a select group of individuals (alright, those of us who populate this website) this Porsche SUV is actually very intriguing because it's the anti-Cayenne. It's specced for driving rather than posing and you suspect it might be rather good at it.

Hopefully too the deplorable private plate was added recently. Wouldn't want that to ruin the persona that's being created for this Cayenne's original owner. Perhaps they were told to get a big and safe SUV but ensured some fun remained. Perhaps they really wanted to wind up a Porsche garage with a dull spec. Either are laudable aims.

Let's get that plate gone pronto
Let's get that plate gone pronto
Alright, so the original Cayenne S isn't terrifically fast. It'll take about seven seconds to hit 60 and the top speed is 150mph. The fuel bill will certainly be horrendous. But there's all that we love about manuals in something as daft as an SUV. With a V8. Petrol is getting cheaper too.

Moreover, don't assume it will be a terrible manual either. Speak to our editor Mr Trent and he will be rather complimentary about late GTS manuals. Alright, fairly different as Cayennes go but let's be hopeful. The Panamera manual is meant to be quite enjoyable too.

Perhaps the novelty appeal will wear off. Perhaps the shift actually is awkward and the clutch vague. But I can't help but like this Cayenne for what it represents, regardless of what the reality amounts to. Any buyer will surely have some strong negotiating power wanting to purchase a V8 manual Porsche off-roader too...

Just for a giggle I wanted to see what other manual petrol 4x4s of PH interest you could find. Of course the sensible option is the 260hp Mazda CX-7, or maybe a Forester STI for those feeling a little more adventurous. But there's nothing like the Cayenne S manual. Probably for good reason but it's rather appealing nonetheless.


PORSCHE CAYENNE S
Engine:
4,511cc V8
Transmission: 6-speed manual, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 340@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 310@2,500rpm
MPG: 18
CO2: 380g/km
First registered: 2005
Recorded mileage: 84,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £8,995

See the original advert here.

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Discussion

dlockhart

434 posts

172 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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I've never been a fan of these and this model is a compromise which somehow seems to show every fault with the cayenne

  • not great performance / power
  • 18mpg average
  • ugly
  • limited off road ability
  • manual so no good for heavy traffic/school run

Quhet

Original Poster:

2,419 posts

146 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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It's a Cayenne, it'll never be cool. shoot

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

173 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Close friend has a Cayenne S V8, automatic.
Before he got it I didn't like them but I've been out in it many times including a trip from South Wales up to Manchester and I do like them now.
It's not lightning quick but it does shift considering its weight and the fuel bill really is frightening.

Still, it won't get me out of my Land Rove hehe

krisdelta

4,566 posts

201 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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I've been in one of the later 4.4S (non-turbo), what is amazing is how it piles on speed. Fast cars push you back in your seat, fast SUV's seem to be like the hand of god grasping your whole body - pretty impressive smile

foxhounduk

491 posts

180 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Lol at "Petrol is getting cheaper too".
Along with the Q7, these things are hideous. Who on earth buys these things?

Whats with the three indents on the centre of the steering wheel btw?

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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I love the fact that the first owner ignored conventional wisdom &the dealer and order a manual with standard wheels - the car is better for it too.

How many manual Cayennes & Panameras are there in the UK?

£100k garage fodder.

jeremyc

23,453 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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thumbup I like that.

It's also got a towbar - perfect for Matt to drag his race car around the circuits of the UK. wink

FastRich

542 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Poverty spec = good but the original buyer should have had ordered the 'S'.

A the bills without the frills. The problem is as highlighted in the article - it's neither the "fuel conscious" one or the fast one yet it'll carry 90% of the same expense as the fast one.


alexnaderinkram

14 posts

119 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Oddly enoough, I don't hate these quite as much as I did when they first came out. I've got used to the 911-grafted-onto-an-SUV front end, but the back end is still horribly bland. The lights look inspired by a MkIV Golf's - hardly the most thrilling of starting points.

Calling it "cool" is a little ambitious though...

kambites

67,554 posts

221 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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On the one hand, this sums up everything I hate about the direction modern cars are going; on the other, even though I don't like them, they are still enormously impressive things.

jeremyc

23,453 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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FastRich said:
Poverty spec = good but the original buyer should have had ordered the 'S'.

A the bills without the frills. The problem is as highlighted in the article - it's neither the "fuel conscious" one or the fast one yet it'll carry 90% of the same expense as the fast one.
confused It is an 'S'.

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Quite.

lusopiston

114 posts

205 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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V6, diesel, Turbo, whatever... Weighs as much as Big Ben and has similar proportions (generous COG), but doesn't look very good. What true petrolhead enjoys driving this?

Sure, Porsche engineering excellence managed to smear some lipstick on an ungainly looking baboon, but still...


johnnyBv8

2,417 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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lusopiston said:
V6, diesel, Turbo, whatever... Weighs as much as Big Ben and has similar proportions (generous COG), but doesn't look very good. What true petrolhead enjoys driving this?

Sure, Porsche engineering excellence managed to smear some lipstick on an ungainly looking baboon, but still...
No, it's a petrol!

johnnyBv8

2,417 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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I've never liked the look of these, but I must admit they're becoming less ugly as they get older. Either that, or as with other aspects of my decision-making, my standards are slipping wink.

The main issue seems to be engine cam tick, which is basically terminal...even a used replacement engine is going to cost upwards of £4k fitted.

Matt UK

17,696 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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A family member drives a Cayenne in Dubai and I have driven his V8S and now his Turbo. And I really don't get this sort of car at all...

Just seems too much like a very clever engineer saying "hey, I've spent ages designing these wellies that are now like running shoes! Admittedly they are now not that good at being wellies, and obviously not as good at being running shoes as err running shoes... but ta-da!!"

The natural reaction would be to say; "How clever, well done, but why?"

And of course the answer is "Because we can charge more for these than a set of wellies and running shoes combined! And you'll never guess what? There's a queue half way down the street for them! I can't quite fathom it myself, but Marketing were right and people seem to like 'em! Anyway, must dash, I'm working on an extreme version people can use for 100m sprinting"

IMHO as always biggrin

K2iss

110 posts

235 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Matt UK said:
Anyway, must dash, I'm working on an extreme version people can use for 100m sprinting"
That will be the hybrid version. Won't go much further than 100m on electric power alone and probably not very fast either. hehe
Still probably a better car that what I'm driving at the moment... getmecoat

jeremyc

23,453 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Matt UK said:
A family member drives a Cayenne in Dubai and I have driven his V8S and now his Turbo. And I really don't get this sort of car at all...

Just seems too much like a very clever engineer saying "hey, I've spent ages designing these wellies that are now like running shoes! Admittedly they are now not that good at being wellies, and obviously not as good at being running shoes as err running shoes... but ta-da!!"

The natural reaction would be to say; "How clever, well done, but why?"

And of course the answer is "Because we can charge more for these than a set of wellies and running shoes combined! And you'll never guess what? There's a queue half way down the street for them! I can't quite fathom it myself, but Marketing were right and people seem to like 'em! Anyway, must dash, I'm working on an extreme version people can use for 100m sprinting"

IMHO as always biggrin
I understand your point, but what if your shoe cupboard has only enough space for one pair? Would it not be better to have something that was fairly good at doing both the wellies and running shoe tasks rather than just being a one trick pony?

Matt UK

17,696 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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jeremyc said:
understand your point, but what if your shoe cupboard has only enough space for one pair? Would it not be better to have something that was fairly good at doing both the wellies and running shoe tasks rather than just being a one trick pony?
Yup, it's a fair point and don't get me wrong - the world is full of these things so it is me very much in the 'wrong' here.. We even had a 4x4 for a while! And yes, pretty much every car is a compromise to some extent.

Still strikes me as similar to me putting some knobblies on the Caterham in case I fancy doing track days and green laning.

I guess to continue the analogy, if I only had space for one pair of shoes I would choose whether I liked muddy walks or running and enjoy having the right tool for the job.

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Matt UK said:
A family member drives a Cayenne in Dubai and I have driven his V8S and now his Turbo. And I really don't get this sort of car at all...

Just seems too much like a very clever engineer saying "hey, I've spent ages designing these wellies that are now like running shoes! Admittedly they are now not that good at being wellies, and obviously not as good at being running shoes as err running shoes... but ta-da!!"

The natural reaction would be to say; "How clever, well done, but why?"

And of course the answer is "Because we can charge more for these than a set of wellies and running shoes combined! And you'll never guess what? There's a queue half way down the street for them! I can't quite fathom it myself, but Marketing were right and people seem to like 'em! Anyway, must dash, I'm working on an extreme version people can use for 100m sprinting"

IMHO as always biggrin
Now there's a country this kind of car makes sense in - UAE - £20 a tank of petrol (OK £25 on a car that size) and you need 4x4 for the sand.

I saw more Cayennes than Porsche sports cars out there & more G55 AMGs than any other Merc - but I don't blame 'em.