RE: Porsche 911 Targa 4 S: Review

RE: Porsche 911 Targa 4 S: Review

Wednesday 31st December 2014

Porsche 911 Targa 4 S: Review

Why the 911 Targa was one of the more surprising cars of 2014



2014 was the year the Porsche world order got somewhat muddled. We like to know where we stand with these things and, traditionally, for your 911 purist the only extremes of the range worthy of the badge are a plain vanilla manual Carrera 2 coupe or, if funds permit, some manner of GT3. 'Carrera 4', 'Tiptronic', 'Cabriolet', 'Aerokit' 'PDK' even ... all words likely to prompt a look of disdain from your typical 911 snob. Targa would, traditionally, reside on that list also.

'Big sunroof' 993, 996 and 997 Targas out of shot...
'Big sunroof' 993, 996 and 997 Targas out of shot...
But as the 991 range has matured and expanded odd things have happened. 'Base' Carreras are lovely things but in size and performance terms seemingly in a precarious place. The upper reaches of the performance envelope remain a special place to be but the loss of more innocent pleasures like the compact, B-road friendly size and determinedly eccentric ergonomics have done more to neuter the base 911 than seven-speed manuals or electric steering. Throw in a growing portfolio of charismatic rivals like the lairy F-Type or sophisticated Mercedes-AMG GT and all of a sudden the 911 is having to work for its supper like never before.

Half rice...
Odd then that the one that gave us the most surprise and delight in the last 12 months was the version that, quite clearly, stands at the opposite end of the spectrum from the 911s we've traditionally been attracted to. The Targa is, after all, heavier, slower, four-wheel drive only and based around the twin gimmicks of retro novelty and the kerbside theatre of an elaborate folding roof. It is, unashamedly, more about style than content.

Bit more involved than popping out a panel
Bit more involved than popping out a panel
But as the enjoyment of fast cars becomes ever more vexed is a 911 built as much for pose value as performance perhaps the solution?

It's certainly got the visual impact and wow factor. Referencing the original 1965 Targa's silver roll hoop look while adopting a high tech solution to the faff of manhandling roof panels would appear a masterstroke. It's certainly given the Targa a more distinct voice in the ever growing 911 range, especially when compared with the big sunroof look adopted by Targas in the post-964 era.

...half chips
And, as the Cabriolet has proved, the 991's shape has proved more accommodating of removal of the roof than perhaps any other open top 911. Structural integrity is often used as a stick to beat cabrio versions of popular coupes but, without that reverse C-pillar, Targa and Cabrio 911s have always looked like big bootied versions of the more muscular and purposeful coupes. Which is ironic, given the well stocked rear seems to have fallen into favour in recent times.

Driving experience not compromised one bit
Driving experience not compromised one bit
Staying on topic though...

You may have surmised from the above admission for thinking the Targa is now a bit of alright that it's merely adequate to drive. True enough, by the numbers it remains arguably the least driver focused 911 in the range, the PDK 4 S Targa as tested 90kg heavier than an equivalent 4 S Carrera and more than £8,000 more expensive to boot. Indeed, you could have a C4 GTS PDK and £122 in your pocket (nearly enough for your embossed Porsche crests on the headrests...) for the £98,801 starting price of this car. A PDK 4 S Cabriolet is a small amount - £647 to be exact - more and 20kg lighter. And of all the 4 S variants the Targa is the slowest by as much as half a second to benchmarks like 0-62mph, 0-100mph and Porsche's own measure of 'elasticity' - in-gear acceleration from 50-75mph in fifth in a manual equipped car. If such things keep you awake at night it's also slightly thirstier and worse on CO2, though only marginally.

Inspiration to use original's influence is inspired
Inspiration to use original's influence is inspired
I like big butts
Against that added bulk the normally aspirated S engine does have its work cut out too, 400hp less of a concern than the fact there's 'just' 324lb ft of torque and it doesn't arrive until the rev counter passes 5,600rpm. By modern standards that's decidedly peaky but, in keeping with the general theme, it's less about the numbers than the sensations.

The S motor spins up with eagerness you'd have expected of a GT3 of a generation or two back and if it lacks punch in the guts acceleration it more than makes up for it with the howl as the lungs open around 4,000rpm. Just kicked in, ja, and all that. You need to rev it out then but PDK makes dropping a few cogs literally a twitch of a finger away and as hardships go we've had to endure worse. If you're feeling flush there's always the 430hp Powerkit option too, a snip (cough) at £9,387.

No longer the ugly duckling of the 911 range
No longer the ugly duckling of the 911 range
Purists may also bemoan the perceived mollycoddling of the four-wheel drive chassis but, again, Porsche has probably correctly identified that this fits with the Targa's all-rounder role. You can have it as a manual if you wish but we'd be surprised if many leave showrooms without the PDK box ticked.

Package holiday
And, of course, it all works beautifully as a package. Much has been said about the 991's electric steering but, of its type, it remains among the better ones and simulated or not the twanginess around the dead ahead gives you the sense of something to lean against. And although it doesn't get the four-wheel steering of the Turbo or GT3 that traditional 911 understeer is gone, the structure stiff and wobble free and torque vectoring four-wheel drive system utterly dependable. Standard on the S, with PDK you get PTV Plus with a full electronic control over a variable locking rear diff. Indeed, on a greasy road it'll even settle into subtle and delightful four-wheel drifts that feel entirely natural and confidence inspiring, hammering home the daily usability point.

Standard 4WD means it works even in this
Standard 4WD means it works even in this
Dropping the roof does take a while - and some space - but the pose value is off the scale. And suitably embellished the 991 interior has never looked better. The buffeting Matt encountered on the launch is still there but, other than that, the sense of compromise in previous Targas is gone, replaced by delight in how this novelty act has been delivered with such class. Simply, it's just a nice car. Not the fastest or most hardcore Porsche ever. But one that's lovely to be around. The feelgood factor has even started to trickle down to earlier Targas too, 'roll hoop' versions like the 964 and older enjoying something of a resurgence on the used market in the reflected glory.

So there we are. 2014 may be remembered for many things; for those of us fixated by rear-engined Porsches it'll be remembered as the year the Targa turned cool. Hope yet for the Turbo S Cabriolet? One step at a time...

991 Targa roof in action

PORSCHE 911 TARGA 4 S
Engine:
3,800cc flat-six
Power (hp): 400@7,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 324@5,600rpm
0-62mph: 4.8 sec (4.6 with PDK, 4.4 with PDK and Sport Chrono)
Top speed: 184mph (183mph)
MPG: 28.2 (30.7) NEDC combined
CO2: 237g/km (214)
Kerbweight: 1,555kg (1,575) DIN empty
Price: £96,413 (£98,801)

Figures in brackets for PDK.







   
   
   
   
   
   
   

Photos: Roo Fowler

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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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daytona365

1,773 posts

165 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Are people so lazy now, that they need all that complicated (and heavy) gubbins to remove a simple lightweight targa panel ?........Oh yes, 'image' at the traffic lights. These cars used to be bought by enthusiasts.

mrclav

1,300 posts

224 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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article said:
given the well stocked rear seems to have fallen into favour in recent times
In my culture, well stocked rears have ALWAYS been in favour. Not a recent thing at all, it's always been viewed as the signifier of strength and good health...

As for the car, I think it's nice enough but I'd probably go for a GTS coupe over a Targa.

Gixer_fan

290 posts

199 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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daytona365 said:
Are people so lazy now, that they need all that complicated (and heavy) gubbins to remove a simple lightweight targa panel ?........Oh yes, 'image' at the traffic lights. These cars used to be bought by enthusiasts.
Call me an old sceptic but you'd always have a feeling that it's going to fail at some point - when you're in the middle of nowhere (or worse, in front of a crowd) and it's starting to rain...

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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The buffetting really bothers me.

This finely honed, beautifully engineered car is perhaps so aerodynamically flawed that it is a windy, blustery thing that does not encourage you to drop the roof.

You could make a case that to mess up such a fundamental part of this car - the whole point of it really - means that this is really a rather, silly, pointless 911.

After all, whats the point in having a Targa if you leave the roof up more often than not?


madcal

965 posts

138 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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I test drove one in the summer, it was great to drive and I quite enjoyed it.

But... I don't understand (except for cosmetic reasons) why the roof is fabric. It makes the car noisy and boomy inside when it is up. If they fitted a lightweight carbon fibre or other top with some sound insulation they could have similar looks, but when the roof was up it would be like a coupe, much better.

I even explored having a roof panel made in CF, but it was crazy expensive, so no purchase.

Aeroresh

1,429 posts

233 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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911 is the only true allrounder imo. F-type and amg gt are fine but 2 seaters....those occasional 2 rear seats in the 911 are envaluable if you have kids.

Targa is my fav out of the bunch, just look at it.....Work of art!

PowerslideSWE

1,116 posts

139 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Aeroresh said:
911 is the only true allrounder imo. F-type and amg gt are fine but 2 seaters....those occasional 2 rear seats in the 911 are envaluable if you have kids.

Targa is my fav out of the bunch, just look at it.....Work of art!
Dunno if it's the prettiest of the bunch, but that side 3/4 view is very appealing.

kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Am I right in thinking the targa shares the entire roof mechanism with the cabriolet? Very neat piece of design if it does.

kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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madcal said:
But... I don't understand (except for cosmetic reasons) why the roof is fabric.
Is it? I thought it was a fabric cover glued onto a rigid plastic section; basically the same as the top section of the cabriolet's roof.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

229 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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That roof is hilarious, what a silly piece of over engineering, just shove the panel away somewhere.

morgrp

4,128 posts

199 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Seems a step back to me, sure the 993 targa was certainly no pose to look at in that it looked identical to the coupe but the glass targa panel could be opened and closed at nigh on any speed

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Love these. Needs a set of fuchs wheels.

red_slr

17,266 posts

190 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Drove one for a morning at Silverstone - cant say I could feel the extra weight and was still pointy enough for some nice hot laps. I drove the GT3 straight after and it was like night and day - which is how it should be IMHO - the Targa is a nice GT car for touring and what not.

daytona365

1,773 posts

165 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Gixer_fan said:
daytona365 said:
Are people so lazy now, that they need all that complicated (and heavy) gubbins to remove a simple lightweight targa panel ?........Oh yes, 'image' at the traffic lights. These cars used to be bought by enthusiasts.
Call me an old sceptic but you'd always have a feeling that it's going to fail at some point - when you're in the middle of nowhere (or worse, in front of a crowd) and it's starting to rain...
....Quite right. I once saw a pretty decent Mercedes SL have the self same problem. Only trouble was it was neither up nor down, but somewhere in the middle ! The driver was not amused !!

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

158 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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I didn't even click the link for the words, just the pics. Should have a NSFW tag on them smile

tom scott

54 posts

229 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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Dan - I thought your article was not so good. I understood that there is something about the Targa that makes it a really interesting drive but I couldn't figure out whether you meant that the Targa has just become a posing machine (and that is enough) or whether it really does have some dynamic flair.

The answer comes from your pals over at Autocar. The slight increase in weight at the rear from the Targa mechanism, slightly higher up, and the slightly softer suspension makes it roll a little more and squat a little harder on its rear wheels in bends - in total making a 'more rewarding and interactive' drive. Making it more like a traditional 911.

This is the really interesting thing about the Targa - that less is in fact more. It is slower, heavier and softer sprung than the coupe and should be more of a boulevard cruiser. But for some strange reason the whole is more than the parts and Porsche have managed a slightly unique engineering feat here.

That is the point about the Targa and I had to look up the Autocar test to understand this.

davidc1

1,546 posts

163 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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My first purchase if 6 numbers ever come up.
Black one , red leather.

Timbola

1,956 posts

141 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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Might just have hit the top of my wish-list.

What an absolute beauty. cloud9


edinph

386 posts

175 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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Having disliked Porsches, and 911's in particular, most of my life, I'm now in love! God, what happened! I want that Targa!