RE: £7,395 996 'GT3': Spotted

RE: £7,395 996 'GT3': Spotted

Tuesday 13th January 2015

£7,395 996 'GT3': Spotted

What price credibility? Seven grand for a Tiptronic GT3 lookalike is a possibly stern test of snobbery...



The editor thinks this isn't going to end well. He might be right because I am suggesting that you could actually be advised into buying an old 911 slusher with the GT3-aping Aerokit. But before you begin your hating, just look at the price - £7,395. That's got to be a seven grand after a bit of haggling - maybe less if you turn up with the cash.

A GT3 for just over seven grand? Er, no...
A GT3 for just over seven grand? Er, no...
With the caveat we've not actually seen it in the metal, evidence suggesting this car could be an absolute steal includes an engine rebuild just 10,000 miles ago to address the familiar Intermediate Shaft (IMS) failure and any nasty cylinder liner cracks. It's also had a reconditioned automatic gearbox fitted too.

Not that the spending will stop there, of course. After a full inspection I'd still budget on spending £1,500-£2,000 for a big service, including fitting front and rear discs and pads, plus re-bushing those clonking wishbones.

I'd then drive it hard, safe and smug in the knowledge that all the expensive bits won't break and, at this money, it's too cheap to worry about silly things like mileage and keeping it clean. OK, I'm still feeling nervous about calls for my head from the forum so I decided to rope in another defender of the cheap 996 faith. And who better than Autofarm owner and 996 driver, Josh Sadler, who knows first-hand about how criminally undervalued the fried egg-faced porkers are?

Terrible truth revealed with that Tiptronic selector
Terrible truth revealed with that Tiptronic selector
"I've had offers to swap my 996 Carrera for a far more valuable mint green 964 but I won't part with it. Not even if you offered me £30K - because there's nothing else that could match this car at that money."

And Josh should know, given how much time Autofarm spends curing the infamous IMS and cracked liners commonly afflicting Porsches of this era. Josh says the first thing he'd do with this car would be to overhaul the suspension. An old 911 with poor body control is an unholy mix and one bound to end up with a trip to A&E.

"Suspension kits, even official OEM Porsche ones, can be surprisingly affordable - my car runs the familiar M030 sports suspension kit that all came in at less than a couple of grand," he says.

So what's his feeling about converting it to a manual?

Laughter.

Dressed to impress ... potential to live up to it?
Dressed to impress ... potential to live up to it?
"That's just not something we'd get involved with. Sure, it is possible, but the Tiptronic under the skin differs structurally to the manual and it will need modifying to receive the manual 'box. Then there's the electrics. It's more trouble than it's worth. We'd recommend sticking to the five-speed Tip - it's a strong 'box, stronger even than the manual and can handle a lot of torque," he says. This last fact is useful, because there's a lot of potential in the 3.4-litre and that's why we'd save up a final £5,000 on some more power.

At the extreme, Autofarm will bore out the 3.4-litre to 3.7 litres, increasing power from the standard car's 300hp to "at least" 370hp. It's a mod Josh did to his 3.6-litre Carrera that is now a 3.9-litre producing well over 380hp. Similar levels of power to a 996 GT3 of the time, but not without warnings.

"We've had too many customers who have turned up with cars with a poorly rebuilt engine," says Josh. "When 996 engines go pop most owners want to get rid of their car as quickly, and cheaply, as possible. And this reflects in the quality of the engine rebuild." Josh says check the work that's been done and make sure it's been undertaken by a reputable company. Finally, he says, all 996s are very vulnerable from corrosion from the front radiators.

Back to our car and with all the work done you could have a perfectly reliable car for £11,000. Or for £5K more you could have a 370hp 996 that can knock on the door of 180mph - easily justifying that Aerokit.

Speaking personally to complete the look I'd add a 'GT4' badge. Just to upset the purists you understand.

Still think I'm nuts?


PORSCHE 911 CARRERA TIPTRONIC (996)
Engine:
 3,387cc flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 300@6,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 258@4,600rpm
MPG: 23.5mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1998
Recorded mileage: 130,000
Price new: c. £60,000
Yours for: £7,395

Original advert here.

   
   

 

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V8 FOU

Original Poster:

2,974 posts

147 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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Excellent! What's not to like? Do the brakes and suspension and up the power and upset all the 996 / tiptronic haters.
Very tempted.
Would want a 997 kit just to lose the fried eggs though...

skinny

5,269 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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is it really only £5k for the 3.7 re-bore?!

not much more than the preventative maintenance steps of re-rounding the cylinders, closing the top deck, and IMS upgrade etc.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

187 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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I read that as,
£7,395 996.00 for a GT3 yikes


hehe

Jim AK

4,029 posts

124 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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Porsche 'shed' anyone?

Seems to tick a lot of boxes on maintenance records & frankly for the purchase price I'd have a look if it wasn't so far away & a brake & suspension overhaul is not uncommon on any car with 100k+

Not a Porschfile by any means but something like this would scratch the itch.

Agree with V8 on a front end kit though.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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I've had my eye on 996s for a while now. For years people have been saying they are about to go up in value but they just seem to be constantly on a downward spiral.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

193 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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I'm not really surprised by the price it is the least desirable 996 I've seen. It wouldn't put my off, I think that's a bargain, but its got the worst interior and gearbox and 130k miles it's easy to justify it's position in the market.

tannedstamina

510 posts

129 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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Acceleration: 0 to 62 in 6.0 seconds

Is it really that slow??

X5TUU

11,939 posts

187 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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007 VXR said:
I read that as,
£7,395 996.00 for a GT3 yikes


hehe
same here ... damned quick glances at a page lol

have to say though for £7k if it runs for a year your laughing really! smile

Ti22

290 posts

173 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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Shhhhh! Next you'll be letting on to everyone that a 986 boxter is actually a good drive and a bargain at 4k! Have to say through, for 11K sorted, I'd spend that on a manual.. hopefully could sneak a later 3.6 for that as well. Most have had the IMS done now at clutch change time, I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that surely these are as cheap as they will ever get now?!

mwstewart

7,600 posts

188 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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Love the interior. This had got to be a decent track car?

J4CKO

41,543 posts

200 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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Surely, if they get much cheaper it would be worth more as parts ?

What are the Tiptronics like to drive ?

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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mwstewart said:
Love the interior. This had got to be a decent track car?
With a slushbox?

mwstewart

7,600 posts

188 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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kambites said:
mwstewart said:
Love the interior. This had got to be a decent track car?
With a slushbox?
I think I would be willing to give it a go for that price - if it overheated and died I'd replace it with a manual.

daveco

4,125 posts

207 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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tannedstamina said:
Acceleration: 0 to 62 in 6.0 seconds

Is it really that slow??
Parkers list the 0-60 time as 5.3 for the Tip so maybe 5.5 is more realistic?

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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J4CKO said:
Surely, if they get much cheaper it would be worth more as parts ?

What are the Tiptronics like to drive ?
http://www.realdriver.com/content/porsche-911-carrera-4-tiptronic-model-996

TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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Ti22 said:
Most have had the IMS done now at clutch change time,
RMS most likely done at clutch change, IMS is a bigger job.

PistonBroker

2,419 posts

226 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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I still daydream about the black 996 3.4 manual with turquoise - yes, turquoise! - interior that went for similar money on eBay about a year ago. So, there's no reason why I should discriminate against this too much.

I could live with Tip at this money, I guess, but it's a shame it's not a manual as it's only really a stripped-out interior and cheap cover plate away from looking like a GT3 to the untrained eye. As said, would make a good track car in that guise if it weren't for the slushbox.

billzeebub

3,864 posts

199 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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Whatever way you cut it that's a hell of a lot of car for the money. Interior looks to be a decent spec too-full leather and sport seats. Maybe not one for the purists, but in all other respects it is well worth a punt.

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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£7k and falling. I remember when people on here said the 996 would never dip to £15k. With so many produced there will keep falling to scrap / breaking levels, just like any other car.

J4CKO

41,543 posts

200 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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Seven grand and people are paying several times that for air cooled stuff, its a 911, for seven grand ffs, it looks pretty good as well.

I may buy it and do a rather self indulgent video of it being driven conservatively, I may even dig some of my old "wky Student Gear" out of the loft to wear for the occasion.