Would you buy an Elise demonstrator?

Would you buy an Elise demonstrator?

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K2iss

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110 posts

235 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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It seems like you can still get the new lotus finance deal on demonstrators. Could be a bargain. I'm well tempted to grab one when I'm ready to commit.

But then, is this something I should really do?

I suspect a demonstrator is well maintained and the car well sorted, as otherwise people would not like it and wouldn't want to buy one. On the other hand it's like buying your car with the knowledge that dozens of people drove it as if they had stolen it, or tested the suspension setup on every pothole. rolleyes

I suspect residuals can suffer, but how would you really find out (apart if you were the dealer)? Would it make a difference on the insurance?

Could it be as good a buy as a nearly new car, but with full warranty and new car finance? Surely it can't be much worse than any second hand vehicle... Or am I missing something?

As anyone taken the jump? What was your experience?

Bebee

4,679 posts

225 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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I've driven a few of Elise demonstrators and always a sales guy would sit in, I'd say (I could be wrong) that the more specialist the car the more likely you won't get the chance to thrash it solo.


hajaba123

1,304 posts

175 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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I wouldn't worry in the slightest. Its a plastic car with a very robust engine bolted to it.

Get it bought and have some fun!

K2iss

Original Poster:

110 posts

235 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Bebee said:
the more specialist the car the more likely you won't get the chance to thrash it solo.
I had a couple of test drives allowed with my partner and no salesman. But in these cases I always drive very conservatively. With a salesman though, I simply don't have that much restrain... evil

NNH

1,517 posts

132 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Not exactly the same, but a similar market: I bought my Cayman as an ex-demonstrator in 2008. 70k later, it's still my only car and is going strong.
The Lotus is quite possibly even more robust, so I wouldn't worry about its treatment at the hands of test pilots.

kambites

67,552 posts

221 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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I think mine started life as a demonstrator.

RYH64E

7,960 posts

244 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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On a car like the Elise it seems a bit daft to worry about how the car has been driven on (almost certainly accompanied) demos when surely the intention is to drive it like you stole it after purchase anyway? If an Elise can't cope with being driven hard it has no purpose at all.

K2iss

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110 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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RYH64E said:
On a car like the Elise it seems a bit daft to worry about how the car has been driven on (almost certainly accompanied) demos when surely the intention is to drive it like you stole it after purchase anyway? If an Elise can't cope with being driven hard it has no purpose at all.
Fair point.

RYH64E

7,960 posts

244 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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If I were to put my cynical hat on for a minute I might think that ex-demos were a way for Lotus to get low mileage second hand cars into the dealer network for sale to this people who don't want to pay full list. I'd happily have bought one if I could've found the colour/option configuration I wanted at a local-ish dealer. An ex-demo with just a few hundred miles on the clock is usually £6-7k below list for the Elise S, that's a good saving.

douglasgdmw

488 posts

219 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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My Elise S2 111R was an ex lotus management car and my Lotus Evora was a demonstrator. Both showed no issues due to them being demonstrators.

Obviously it depends on the garage. Would certainly trust MMC as most of their demos have Brandon sat in with the customer.

George

simpo555

560 posts

164 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Look at the car. Evaluate the condition. Evaluate the price. If both are right buy the car. There's no difference to me between an ex demo or a private sale. If its under 3000 miles just go for it. When you see ex demo's at £34K its a big saving and for me a no brainer. Don't get hung up on the how many people might have driven it thing. Only area to check is that its done it's mileage on the road with little track use.

bordseye

1,982 posts

192 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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I would prefer an ex demo to a one owner - demo drives under supervision are never likely to rag the car in a way that some owners will. For similar reasons I would always prefer a car owned by an older driver to a younger one. And subject to nowing the owner was an engineer, I would always prefer a home serviced car to a dealer one where mechanics cut corners, miss things out etc.

RYH64E

7,960 posts

244 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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bordseye said:
I would prefer an ex demo to a one owner - demo drives under supervision are never likely to rag the car in a way that some owners will. For similar reasons I would always prefer a car owned by an older driver to a younger one. And subject to knowing the owner was an engineer, I would always prefer a home serviced car to a dealer one where mechanics cut corners, miss things out etc.
There's a market opportunity Lotus are missing, elderly engineers who want a basic two seater sports car to potter down to the shops on the weekend. Might have to do something about the getting in/out of the Elsie though, that will be a bit of a challenge with a dodgy knee and an artritic hip...

fridaypassion

8,553 posts

228 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Is it a demonstrator though? Lotus have a habit of knocking out development cars out for cheap to their dealers. If your clutch goes 2 weeks into ownership it might take the shine off a bit...

Fastpedeller

3,872 posts

146 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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I think you'll find that NO MANUFACTURER is allowed to sell on development cars. At Lotus the development cars are registered specifically as that, and DVLA do not allow them to be re-registered as private use cars afterwards. I'm sure other manufacturers are compelled to follow the same procedures.

RYH64E

7,960 posts

244 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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fridaypassion said:
Is it a demonstrator though? Lotus have a habit of knocking out development cars out for cheap to their dealers. If your clutch goes 2 weeks into ownership it might take the shine off a bit...
Why would Lotus want (or allow) potential customers getting demonstration drives in cars that are anything but the very best they can offer, how would that persuade them to part with a considerable chunk of money? Surely demo cars should be representative of the best that Lotus can make, not a way to palm off dodgy cars to the dealer.

fridaypassion

8,553 posts

228 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Because they are in a completely dire financial situation and need every single penny they can get?

fridaypassion

8,553 posts

228 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Fastpedeller said:
I think you'll find that NO MANUFACTURER is allowed to sell on development cars. At Lotus the development cars are registered specifically as that, and DVLA do not allow them to be re-registered as private use cars afterwards. I'm sure other manufacturers are compelled to follow the same procedures.
Which laws would that be then that prevents this? If Lotus produce a car, stick it on a AU plate, use it themselves to do some suspension tweaks on or drive to Scandinavia and back to test something they crush it then? If its registered for the road they can do what they like.



RYH64E

7,960 posts

244 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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fridaypassion said:
Because they are in a completely dire financial situation and need every single penny they can get?
And making a few quid by selling off crap and feeding the 'lots of trouble, usually serious' reputation is the answer? Cars that they will have to fix under the three year warranty anyway? Surely a better option would be more dealers, with first class demonstrators, persuading potential customers to spend lots of money buying great cars?

fridaypassion

8,553 posts

228 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Such cars do get sold to the public. Make of that what you will!