RE: Mercedes E400 Coupe: Review

RE: Mercedes E400 Coupe: Review

Thursday 12th February 2015

Mercedes E400 Coupe: Review

Bye-bye V8, hello twin-turbo V6 - can Merc's defiantly old-school coupe still waft like it should?



Of the BMW 435i and Audi S5 it overlaps with the Mercedes E400 Coupe is the most expensive and quite decisively the least sporting of the bunch. A heavy-handed facelift has left the E-Class a slightly confused mix of hard-edged 80s revivalism and new-school Benz swoopiness and the previous V8 has lost two cylinders and two litres of capacity to bring the E-Class into line with the downsizing norm.

On paper it sounds like a bit of a lost cause before even turning a wheel. Happily the reality turns out to be anything but the case.

'100' and two cylinders less; more poke though
'100' and two cylinders less; more poke though
Basically Mercedes knows what it's doing with cars like this. After all, there have been pillarless coupes in the range following the same basic format for the last 70-odd years. From the Ponton (referenced in the rear arches of this car) to the W123 and W124s of the 80s, they've never been sporty cars. Curiously nor have they ever been particularly ostentatious, the SECs, CLs and S-Class Coupes taking the flagship roles in their respective ages. Think of it as the kind of car ladies what lunch would have driven to the health spa before they discovered SUVs or retired GPs or lawyers might treat themselves to upon retirement.

Less is more?
The pre-facelift E500 was exactly one of these cars. Parked beside a regular four-cylinder diesel version you'd never have guessed it was packing a 383hp 5.5-litre V8, this creamily smooth motor an arch combination with Mercedes' seven-speed auto. But now it's gone, replaced, inevitably, with a downsized V6 of 'just' 3.5 litres but boosted by a pair of turbos.

As such it carries a 52hp and 37lb ft deficit over the V8, though it beats both the Audi and BMW on torque and now records respectable official stats of 40.9mpg combined and 161g/km. Big improvements over the V8's 26mpg and 245g/km, even if in the real world the difference actually turns out to be marginal. This is the same engine as that in the forthcoming C450 AMG Sport, which sounds very promising indeed from the initial info.

Downsized turbo V6 punches above its weight
Downsized turbo V6 punches above its weight
There's no escaping the fact the big-engined (relatively) E-Coupe has lost that beguiling waft of the V8 either. Though commendably smooth the engine sounds a little gruff at low revs and under load and though lag has been minimised it can't be completely overlooked, especially accelerating in-gear. In lower gears the sudden torque spike - peak of 354lb ft comes in at just 1,200rpm - easily overwhelms the Continental WinterContacts Mercedes UK has fitted to its press demos for the season, making for surprisingly lively handling on wet roundabouts. Feel free to substitute 'enjoyably' for 'surprisingly' as required but for a car like the E400 it's not necessarily what you'd expect.

It is very rapid though, the V6 on boost sweeping the E-Class along at a more than respectable lick with the low-rev gruffness forgotten. And then you can start really appreciating the good stuff.

Classic pillarless look remains a charmer
Classic pillarless look remains a charmer
Hello old friend
Like ride comfort. Remember that? The 435i we ran on the PH Fleet managed to be neither comfortable nor controlled, the softer mode on the adjustable dampers leaving flabby body control while Sport just ramped up the NVH. It's been a while since we've been in an S5 but on the big wheels and sportlich suspension preferred by many buyers it's not a car with a love of wafting.

Being based on an older car means the Merc still has hydraulically assisted steering too; not so long ago we'd have probably described it as light and vague but in the fog of gritty, insincere electric systems like that fitted to the 435i it's a beacon of tactility and feedback. This, paired with decent suspension travel and excellent body control, makes the Mercedes a relaxing and effective means of making respectable progress.

There is a sport setting on the dampers which helps contain more extreme weight transfers on roundabouts and the like but, we'd venture, will rarely be selected because the default is so pleasant. On bumpy roads the firmer setting can also send the odd shudder through the shell and steering column, the assumption being that the pillarless shell suffers a little for torsional rigidity.

A 435i/S5 rival on paper if not in spirit
A 435i/S5 rival on paper if not in spirit
A price worth paying when you can drop all the windows and enjoy that trademark Benz coupe vibe. Over the shoulder visibility is, of course, excellent too. In the Mercedes way the ergonomics and comfort are top notch too, even if the tech isn't quite up to the standard of the rivals. It might sound nit picky but hopeless DAB reception and slow-witted and unnecessarily cautious 'active' LED headlights are dropped balls compared with equivalent kit offered by BMW and Audi.

In conclusion then this is a proper Benz and all the better for it. Like the W123 and W124 coupes of an earlier age it's an acquired taste but one Mercedes understands well and has successfully updated for the modern age. For the effortless V8, more cohesive styling and price we'd be happier with a used E500 but this is a sympathetic update and the essential character has survived intact.


MERCEDES-BENZ E400 AMG SPORT PLUS COUPE*
Engine:
3,498cc V6 twin-turbo (E500 5,461cc V8)
Transmission: 7-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 333@5,250-6,000 (E500 387@6,000rpm)
Torque (lb ft): 354@1,200-4,000rpm (E500 391@2,000-4,800rpm)
0-62mph: 5.2sec
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1,735kg
MPG (NEDC combined): 40.9mpg (E500 26mpg)
CO2: 161g/km (E500 254g/km)
Price: £46,100 before options (£52,075 as tested, comprising Panoramic Glass Sunroof £1,370; Memory Package inc. Easy Exit steering wheel, lumbar support, electric front seats with memory settings £1,225; metallic paint £645; Driving Awareness Package inc. blind spot warning, lane-keeping system and Distronic active cruise control £2,345 and reversing camera £390.)

*Relevant comparison figures for pre-facelift E500 coupe in brackets

 





   
   
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WokkaWokka

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Thursday 12th February 2015
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The initial message was deleted from this topic on 12 February 2015 at 13:47

WokkaWokka

Original Poster:

699 posts

139 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Sounds like it delivers however the looks are getting a bit boring and I've never been a fan of the mid range Mercedes interiors after I had a CLS as a courtesy car (that cost insurers over £8000!) after some unlucky chap reversed into me in a car park.

Great that they still have a good engine.

alock

4,227 posts

211 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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I'm surprised they didn't give it the new 9 speed box. Anyone driven one of those yet?

Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Interested in driving this engine. Suspect I'll keep the 500 though.

mackie1

8,153 posts

233 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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C450 appeals more.

Jimmy T

35 posts

209 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Interesting graffiti on the wall on the right-hand side of the last photo...

filski666

3,841 posts

192 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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that engine in an estate please!

Actus Reus

4,234 posts

155 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Unfortunate choice of enormous swear-word in the last image.

Nice car though.

ETA: as Jimmy notes above I now realise.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Actus Reus said:
Unfortunate choice of enormous swear-word in the last image.

Nice car though.
Just seen that hehe

Wizardskills

243 posts

167 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Jimmy T said:
Interesting graffiti on the wall on the right-hand side of the last photo...
And it's not in the second from last photo. Perhaps it was freshly "drawn"....

drophead

1,056 posts

157 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Amirhussain said:
Actus Reus said:
Unfortunate choice of enormous swear-word in the last image.

Nice car though.
Just seen that hehe
biglaugh

Ohh how utterly brilliant! How did someone miss that before posting this up.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Amirhussain said:
Actus Reus said:
Unfortunate choice of enormous swear-word in the last image.

Nice car though.
Just seen that hehe
Oh FFS. Having carefully edited the pic to remove offending 'social commentary' I then managed to upload the uncensored image. banghead

Ach well, glad it raised a laugh!

Cheers!

Dan



Actus Reus

4,234 posts

155 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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I assumed that you were perhaps commenting on what sort of a person would buy a car like this. Fair comment too.

WokkaWokka

Original Poster:

699 posts

139 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Dan Trent said:
Amirhussain said:
Actus Reus said:
Unfortunate choice of enormous swear-word in the last image.

Nice car though.
Just seen that hehe
Oh FFS. Having carefully edited the pic to remove offending 'social commentary' I then managed to upload the uncensored image. banghead

Ach well, glad it raised a laugh!

Cheers!

Dan (Buzz Killington)


EFA biggrin

Jimmy T

35 posts

209 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Now edited, but was a nice reference to catching up with someone after the weekend, mainly the day after Monday...

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

218 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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WokkaWokka said:
Sounds like it delivers however the looks are getting a bit boring and I've never been a fan of the mid range Mercedes interiors after I had a CLS as a courtesy car (that cost insurers over £8000!) after some unlucky chap reversed into me in a car park.

Great that they still have a good engine.
Someone reversed into you because of the cars interior? a tad extreme!

underphil

1,246 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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doesn't really make sense to compare this to the 4-series and A5 does it?

- the C-class coupe is more a like-for-like

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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underphil said:
doesn't really make sense to compare this to the 4-series and A5 does it?

- the C-class coupe is more a like-for-like
It's a fair point and one I considered when writing the review - hence my saying it 'overlapped' with the BMW and Audi rather than directly rivalled them. But check out the comparison stats I compiled in my research and you'll see why I chose to go ahead with the reference...

Cheers,

Dan



DoctorX

7,291 posts

167 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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I quite like that. The front end has yet to be uglified like the rest of Merc's range.

underphil

1,246 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Dan Trent said:
underphil said:
doesn't really make sense to compare this to the 4-series and A5 does it?

- the C-class coupe is more a like-for-like
It's a fair point and one I considered when writing the review - hence my saying it 'overlapped' with the BMW and Audi rather than directly rivalled them. But check out the comparison stats I compiled in my research and you'll see why I chose to go ahead with the reference...

Cheers,

Dan


yeah, not all that different

Will they be sticking this engine in the C-class coupe as well as the saloon?