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[Blue Cat]

Funkycoldribena said:

Blue Cat said:

I don't get why people are comparing this to the Brexit Vote, it is totally different.

With Brexit, there were good and valid reasons for voting either way and most people (perhaps not the rabid posters on PH) could understand the other side's point of view

But Trump.....................I don't get it, the main reasons seem to be that he is 'Clinton' or not 'Government'

As someone asked before what exactly makes people here think that Trump will make a good President?

I couldn't understand why people wanted to be shackled to Brussels, totally beyond my comprehension.
As for Trump,I'm utterly sick of the same old politicians decade after decade,its time for a change. I quite like that he says it as it is and doesn't care,far too many sensitive petals out there and here who are offended at anything and everytything and their only retorts seem involve the words racist,bigot and xenophobe.Bloody hell,its boring.

So his comments about women are totally acceptable to you and please don't respond 'Clinton was worse, now that's IS boring'

You would be happy for him to treat your wife, daughter, sister in that manner

[968]

Countdown said:

Unfortunately snopes has shown that to be untrue.

[p1stonhead]

Funkycoldribena said:

Blue Cat said:

I don't get why people are comparing this to the Brexit Vote, it is totally different.

With Brexit, there were good and valid reasons for voting either way and most people (perhaps not the rabid posters on PH) could understand the other side's point of view

But Trump.....................I don't get it, the main reasons seem to be that he is 'Clinton' or not 'Government'

As someone asked before what exactly makes people here think that Trump will make a good President?

I couldn't understand why people wanted to be shackled to Brussels, totally beyond my comprehension.
As for Trump,I'm utterly sick of the same old politicians decade after decade,its time for a change. I quite like that he says it as it is and doesn't care,far too many sensitive petals out there and here who are offended at anything and everytything and their only retorts seem involve the words racist,bigot and xenophobe.Bloody hell,its boring.

So none of this bothers you because he 'says it like it is'?



Mexicans can pay for a wall I'm going to build to keep them out.

No more Muslims coming into the country.

'Grab them by the pussy'

My daughter is a fine 'piece of ass'

If my daughter wasn't my daughter, I'd probably be dating her.

Asking gun nutters to assassinate Hillary

Saying Obama isn't an American

Mexicans are rapists

It's freezing and snowing in New York - we need global warming!

Attacking a dead soldiers family



The whole fking mess goes on and on.

[Elysium]

don4l said:

I think that the world would be a safer place with Trump in charge

You are the only person in the world who thinks that. Even Trump himself knows that's daft.

[mikal83]

don4l said:

desolate said:

unrepentant said:

Trump doesn't have a voting record you blithering idiot.

So this is another thing that the don4l has made up?

There's a surprise.

Something that I read. Could be cognitive bias at work.

I'll look it up after dinner.

You mean you don't know. I'd go to another forum where you might know some of the basics mate.

[don4l]

I'll have to admit defeat on the Trump voting issue.

So, it is Lefties 1, don4l 0.

What I should have said is that Trump has a long record of speaking out against foreign intervention. Hilary Clinton has a long record of voting in favour of such interventions.

[Bill]

968 said:

Countdown said:

Unfortunately snopes has shown that to be untrue.

Bloody Lefties!

[968]

don4l said:

I'll have to admit defeat on the Trump voting issue.

So, it is Lefties 1, don4l 0.

What I should have said is that Trump has a long record of speaking out against foreign intervention. Hilary Clinton has a long record of voting in favour of such interventions.

Is it only lefties who disagree with you about the tides?

[Countdown]

968 said:

Countdown said:

Unfortunately snopes has shown that to be untrue.

There are 6 sentences in there, All 6 of them are true.

Even though he never actually said those words they are the most "True" Trump has ever been.

[Countdown]

don4l said:

What I should have said is that Trump has a long record of speaking out against foreign intervention.

If you had said that you'd have been wrong. Again.

Bloody lefties!

[Bill]

Sylvaforever said:

You see Bill that's the entire problem displayed in you're post above. Same old tribalism us vs them, the trouble being we have far more to lose.

So you'd rather appease them than stand up to them?

[mikal83]

don4l said:

I'll have to admit defeat on the Trump voting issue.

So, it is Lefties 1, don4l 0.

What I should have said is that Trump has a long record of speaking out against foreign intervention. Hilary Clinton has a long record of voting in favour of such interventions.

No really, go to another forum where you might know the basics.

[anonymous-user]

turbobloke said:

Greg66 said:

turbobloke said:

rscott said:

Trying to compare his boasts about how he loves to assault women with Clinton's husband's behaviour with consenting partners is pathetic.

Easy labelling, no reasoning, same old.

The idea is not, of course, to compare two offences. You and others focus on that by deliberate mistake because it deflects attention away from the key point.

It's all about attitudes towards women, judgement around that attitude, and whether an exploitative attitude bars somebody from high office (Potus) clearly it doesn't.

More nonsense. You are the one deliberately avoiding the point and deflecting. It's weak, transparent, and intellectually dishonest as it can be. But hell, if you want to continue to dilute further your integrity and credibility, knock yourself out. If you really can't see the difference between the attitude to women as a group exhibited by a consensual extra-marital affair and the attitude to women as a group exhibited by Trump, I'm staggered.

BTW, the personal attack and near instant denial that that's what you'd done was worthy of Trump himself. No wonder you see things through his eyes so easily.

Another post full of personal angle waffle = waste of time...lost the argument or lost the plot, no matter.

As the saying goes, the nearer to the target, the thicker the flak.

Thanks for the personal attention, it's always appreciated but boring in the context of the thread as a whole.

Lame fail non-reply. Unable to address the point, so ignore it and claim "victory". Trumpist stuff when a white flag would save further harm.

Btw, the saying is "if you’re not catching flak you’re not over the target". Which is to say the more people criticise you, the more right you must be.

Or, in the real world, the more likely it is you're wrong.

But I suppose sayings like that give comfort to people like you.

[anonymous-user]

don4l said:

What I should have said is that Trump has a long record of speaking out against foreign intervention.

Was that not the Jack Kennedy line in the 1930s?

[Jockman]

It's getting harder to believe in a Trump Presidency.

HRC just has to keep her nose clean to win this one. Maybe Assange has something up his sleeve?

After Jo Cox I thought Brexit was finished. I got that one wrong.

[AreOut]

Jockman said:

HRC just has to keep her nose clean to win this one.

and not fall unconscious in next two debates

[Jockman]

AreOut said:

Jockman said:

HRC just has to keep her nose clean to win this one.

and not fall unconscious in next two debates

That would certainly help.

There are some that would argue that an unconscious HRC is better than a conscious DT.

[scherzkeks]

FN2TypeR said:

Yeah we have that here in the UK too - me, me, me, very prevalent, sadly.

You do, but you also have a deeper spiritual and cultural center to fall back on as a society. We don't. We are a young country founded on the premise that you can get something for nothing. What the masses are finding out is that it doesn't work, and we have no plan B. This circus of an election is just the start of a very long and painful descent.

How many mass shootings occur per month now? I have lost track.

[durbster]

What worries me most about Trump is the commentators from the middle east, or with experience of that area, who are saying what Trump is doing right now is exactly how people like Gadaffi came to power.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/donald-trump-...

Whether the United States political system is robust enough to prevent such a thing happening remains to be seen, but these people have seen this play before, and have experienced its devastating consequences. The American people really should be paying attention.

Edited by durbster on Sunday 9th October 20:37

[unrepentant]

scherzkeks said:

You do, but you also have a deeper spiritual and cultural center to fall back on as a society. We don't. We are a young country founded on the premise that you can get something for nothing.

Eh?

I'm beginning to think that you're either not American at all or you left here as an infant.

Something for nothing is much more of a European trait with a welfare system and cradle to grave safety nets. America has far more of an enterprise culture, very little safety net, zero workers protection, restricted unemployment benefits and no universal healthcare. Sit on your ass here and nobody gives you jack but hard work and enterprise are very well rewarded and it is far easier to make a good living here if you get stuck in.