RE: Vauxhall Astra GTE 16v: PH Heroes

RE: Vauxhall Astra GTE 16v: PH Heroes

Thursday 19th February 2015

Vauxhall Astra GTE 16v: PH Heroes

Largely forgotten in the annals of hot hatch history, PH gives the GTE some much deserved recognition



If history is written by the victors, why isn't the Vauxhall Astra GTE Mk2 considered one of the finest hot hatches of all time?

We all talk almost evangelically about how great the Peugeot 205 GTI and VW Golf GTI were but conveniently forget that, back in 1988, both were comprehensively beaten fair and square by the fast Vauxhall.

'Hot hatch king' is how Autocar termed the GTE 16V's victory against its French and German opposition. Car magazine too joined in the praise for the fast Astra, preferring it to not just the Golf GTi 16V but its more expensive turbocharged rivals like the MG Maestro Turbo and Escort RS Turbo.

Ticks all 80s hot hatch requirements!
Ticks all 80s hot hatch requirements!
So why is it today the Astra GTE 16V is relegated to runner-up status in the realms of hot hatch history?

I certainly hadn't forgotten the Astra. It arrived when I was at that impressionable age where power, speed and 0-60 times were things to be memorised and obsessed over - and on Top Trumps stats the GTE 16V ruled. Even in the Cosworth era, a near-160hp, 135mph, affordable Vauxhall hatch sounded ludicrous.

More surprising was how nobody had seen it coming. The regular Mk2 GTE 8V was a dud, a massive disappointment that had inert handling, dead steering and wild lift-off oversteer.

Giving the GTE more power was the last thing it needed. On paper it was a recipe for disaster, a triumph of brute force over bloody ignorance. Luckily for us Vauxhall went ahead anyway and the re-engineering that went into the GTE was astonishing.

The engine, for example, was a work of art. Engineers were said to be obsessed with improving the 2.0-litre's induction system, creating a larger plenum to act as a huge resonating chamber to allow freer breathing.

8v GTE was a stinker - this wasn't
8v GTE was a stinker - this wasn't
Meanwhile, lightweight forged pistons and hollow cams were both used to reduce inertia. Rumours were that the engine was so under-stressed that the belt driven cams were capable of spinning to a reliable 10,000rpm without capitulating - Vauxhall kept to a more modest 6,800rpm limit.

The attention to detail continued with both the head and inlet manifold polished to help gas flow, boosting low-end torque. To help cooling the exhaust valves were filled with sodium and there was a separate oil cooler to deal with the higher temperatures generated from hard driving. Finally, the very latest Bosch M2.5 system sequential fuel injection was used that only fired when needed for maximum efficiency.

All this at the time made the 20 XE (or 'Red Top' as its known affectionately to Vauxhall fans) sound more like a race engine - which is exactly what it was. Originally the project had started out to underpin GM's motorsport program that had seen Cosworth involved early on in the project.

Vauxhall could have easily stopped there, but it didn't. Engineers decided to cope with the new power and torque it would have to go back to the drawing board with the GTE 16V's chassis.

Obviously this had to feature
Obviously this had to feature
That's how the springs for the 16V are an unbelievable 25mm shorter than the regular GTE. Dampers too, were bespoke, while Vauxhall fitted the thickest anti-roll bar it could find and added an extra one at the rear to help deal with those big front to rear weight transitions and keeping it flat through corners.

They didn't stop there. The rear track was widened by a substantial 50mm before adding some negative camber to improve grip and tame the old GTE's propensity for wild slip angles.

Weighing in at just 1,020kg (depending on options) performance was in another league compared to its rivals. Depends where you pick the actual figures from but the 16V's 0-60mph sprint took around 7.5 seconds, while its 135mph was verified on national TV during an episode of Police Camera Action.

So what's it like a quarter of a century later? There's no better car to find out with than H544RYG, Vauxhall's immaculate heritage example.

In the flesh the GTE is glorious in snow white. This car has only covered just 34,000 miles, although the last five or six thousand have been very tough with assorted hacks behind the wheel - not that you could tell. At idle the legendary Red Top idles impeccably without any lumpiness you might have expected from its high output.

An iconic engine with very good reason
An iconic engine with very good reason
The throttle is a revelation. With its scalpel sharp responses it would shame a modern sports car for eagerness. The engine has so much torque from even idle you begin to question if there's actually a couple of extra cylinders under the bonnet. Without any traction control it will spin up its front wheels in first, second and even third - before fourth calms the tidal wave of torque.

Wheelspin, torque steer, lack of grip and that mighty engine dominate the short trip to the first location on some quiet B-roads near to Vauxhall's Luton home. What's so impressive about the 16V is that the engine seems to have it all - blessed with the plentiful low-down torque of an 8V Golf GTI but with the massive top end of an old 16-valve too. It's enough to make a Civic Type R (pick a model, any model) weep.

More importantly, the Astra still feels really fast. Its biggest problem though is putting the power down. Not only is the Astra comically undertyred (185/65 VR14), this car's rubber is age-hardened and cracked. There's more. Such is the difficulty of getting modern performance tyres in old sizes they're energy saving Firestones. No wonder most owners fit either wider 195 tyres, or have given up and fitted bigger 15s.

Teardrop shape instantly familiar
Teardrop shape instantly familiar
Hopefully fresh tyres will cure some of the deadness in the steering too, but one thing proving entertaining is the smooth rear breakaway - proof of the talented chassis that lurks beneath. But the combination of freezing temperatures and those tyres also create a load of understeer. It's involving, that's for sure.

It's the engine that dominates though. An engine, don't forget, that helped win John Cleland the BTCC in 1989 and the same engine that ended up powering Formula 3 racers, Caterhams and Westfields. Apparently the motorsport guys could turn the wick up to an 'easy' 250hp but today I think 100hp would be enough on these tyres.

Throwing the towel in early we head back with thoughts of a rematch. Modern rubber would surely transform this wonderful car. Perhaps a period group test is in order? Even if the Astra GTE 16V didn't beat the Golf and 205 overall, it'd be fun watching them try to keep up.


VAUXHALL ASTRA GTE 16V
Engine:
1,998cc four-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 158@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 145@4,800rpm
0-62mph: 7.8 seconds
Top speed: 135mph
Weight: 1,021kg
MPG: 33.4 (Autocar road test average)
CO2: N/A
Price: £9,879.48 (1987)
[Sources: Autocar and Car, via Trigger's Road Tests on Flickr]









   
   

[Pics: Tom Begley]

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Discussion

Lunar Tick

Original Poster:

112 posts

142 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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It's a good shed but....

"Enough torque to make a Civic Type R (pick any Type R) weep"

Okay, I pick the FD2 4-door Civic: 159lb/ft peak torque vs 144lb/ft peak torque for the Red Top engine. (both 2L)

Oh, but that's cheating I hear you say because it's an import only. Okay, what about an EP3 Civic, which produces 145lb/ft peak torque from its 2L?

Somewhat shoddy journalism I'd say





Edited by Lunar Tick on Thursday 19th February 13:01

sunsurfer

305 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Well that's got me heading to the classifieds. I had no idea these were so good.
I suspect it's my own badge snobbery that has kept this off my radar.

manmaths

452 posts

141 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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When I lived in South Africa for a while a guy I knew had one just like this. Was a great car and felt lovely on the road. The digital dash was very cool.

J4CKO

41,623 posts

201 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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These still don't look all that dated, still give me a bit of a frisson of excitement, I drove a 2.0 one for a bit and frankly it was a bit poo, in the wet it had zero traction even on fairly decent tyres, nearly bought an Aubergine coloured 16 V years later but got there to have a look and the owner was a bizarre human/Chimp hybrid called Dane/Dwayne/Dean or something like that and the car, though very shiny, every panel was strangely dented in some way, in fact several ways, I didn't bother driving it as I had no intention of buying it, Dane/Dwayne/Dean took this rather personally and called me some names and suggested I leave quickly to avoid some violence, nice !

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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I had a mate with a tweaked one, cams, head, chip, exhaust etc. It didn't half shift for it's day. Never liked it to drive though & digital dashes are just nasty.

Ali_T

3,379 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Great engine but, seriously, they were fitted to a mediocre car at best. And these date from the era the Honda B16 was producing 158bhp from a mere 1.6 litres.

LordHaveMurci

12,045 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Thought these were renowned for poor handling in their day? Sure I remember reading an article that listed these as one of the top widow makers at the time.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Even the 8v engine was good. It did have terrible oversteer though, even in a straightline whilst reversing backwards at 12mph.

There was no warning either.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Too fast for their chassis.

BigMacDaddy

963 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Really miss my one of these! On decent tyres they were a lot more composed (15" Toyo R888s in my case, went even better when the alignment was correct lol). Managed to cobble together a cheap & cheerful setup using a set of 46mm throttle bodies from eBay and an Omex ECU, ended up with a respectable 182bhp biggrin

Ended up selling to fund my next purchase, think the chap who bought it ended up breaking it and sticking the engine in a Nova (heretic!)

RIP:




anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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LordHaveMurci said:
Thought these were renowned for poor handling in their day? Sure I remember reading an article that listed these as one of the top widow makers at the time.
Yep, they weren't very good to be honest. I had a few hot hatches back then including an Escort RS Turbo and Pug 1.9 GTI. Both were much better cars.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

177 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Even in period it looked a bit, well dowdy...

Great engine though - For an early 16V it was very torquey, even pushing my barge of a Calibra along at a decent rate of knots.

Re the comparison with a Civic, perhaps the writer meant it had a more usable spread of torque than having more 'torques' at peak? In fact, reading back, he doesn't say it "Has more torque", he says the combination is enough to "make a Civic Type R (pick a model, any model) weep."

M.

Edited by marcosgt on Thursday 19th February 14:15

muppet42

331 posts

206 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Saw this PH thread and when Googling for details on the GTE... http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=18&... ...worth a wee read through smile

I've always liked the shape of these though I think they do get a stigma that a lot of Vauxhalls have for not being much of decent handler. I do remember one getting tested alongside and Escort RS Turbo a few years back by Needles on 5th Gear... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhdmrZobVYA

rallycross

12,810 posts

238 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Ah the memories!
I had a white GTE mk2 with the digi dash and my mate had a black 16v version.
The handling on these was dreadful, bouncy suspension, armfuls of under steer, but that 16v engine made up for it as they went like a rocket, the Civic Type R of its day.

ian2144

1,665 posts

223 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Great engine......shoot car

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

238 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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As a 10 year old I was always cross with my dad that he got a Cavalier SRi instead of one of these. Happy memories...

DanielSan

18,805 posts

168 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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rallycross said:
Ah the memories!
I had a white GTE mk2 with the digi dash and my mate had a black 16v version.
The handling on these was dreadful, bouncy suspension, armfuls of under steer, but that 16v engine made up for it as they went like a rocket, the Civic Type R of its day.
Funnily enough I know someone who bought an EP3 as a cheap toy for a while recently, the reason being he wanted a modern version of his old GTE...

Nickellarse

533 posts

190 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Bloody loved these cars. A mate at Wokingham hockey club had one and away matches were my favourite part of the week. Hooning around in his GTE was fantastic.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

249 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Understeer followed by copious wheel spin is my memory of the GTE.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

171 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Hooligan of a car back in t' day, I still sometimes toy with the idea of getting one again, but I fear age will have ruined the car, and I quite value my life these days. I'd only passed my test months before, and it was a bit like being a Hurricane pilot with 6 hours of flying experience and engaging the Hun. Well almost. To really drive it at the limit you have to be young and dumb. Smooth rear breakaway - huh, dream on, down hill bend on a curve, keep your foot in or die.