RE: Vauxhall Astra VXR: PH Carpool

RE: Vauxhall Astra VXR: PH Carpool

Monday 23rd February 2015

Vauxhall Astra VXR: PH Carpool

Spiritual successor to last week's GTE Hero and a cracker as far as this PHer is concerned



Name: Lloyd Young
Car: 2014 Vauxhall Astra GTC VXR
Owned since: November 2013
Previously owned: "2013 GTC VXR! After I managed to buy a previously crashed car from a Network Q dealership (a story for another time) and a 1.2 Corsa."

Why I bought it:
"My first car was the elusive limited edition Corsa. It was brilliant. But slow. I learned how to drive with it and fell in love it; to this day it makes me smile. But damn it was slow. The figures for the GTC VXR were ridiculous on paper, it had the aesthetic balance between pretty good looks and aggression and a test drive ticked the box for thrills."

Lloyd with the Astra at a petrol station. Again
Lloyd with the Astra at a petrol station. Again
What I wish I'd known:
"Just how harsh the ride would be. Hitting an unexpected pothole leaves you grimacing for the next mile, convinced something has broken. It really isn't smooth. At higher speeds the clever suspension does a good job at neutralising our unique UK road surfaces (something I'm grateful for), but a comfort setting would be lovely."

Things I love:
"The sound - it's not the meatiest or the loudest, but it's definitely unique. It screams when giving it the beans and for brief moments on cold mornings it is a rather special event starting it up.

"Unlike Vauxhalls of old, the cabin is a pleasant environment with fewer cheap plastics used and an array of buttons to make you feel grown up. Ironically the VXR button is the most childish, unnecessary and brilliant feature - it's never been left on for more than a few minutes and this is largely the reason I still have a driving licence! For me the squat but sleek design holds the right balance of sporty and pretty and whilst it's not as aggressive as the model it replaces, it feels just as special to drive. It turns heads, gets comments and winds up elderly neighbours. It's my Ferrari. Except it's not and I was rather brutally reminded of this by a lady friend whom called it 'cute' on a date. Whilst more uncompromising than a Focus ST for everyday use, and not as nimble as a Megane, I'm happy to negotiate potholes for the looks and silly pace."

Things I hate:
"The price of fuel. I have genuinely considered stocking up on fuel whilst prices are low. The car has a terrible appetite for unleaded and when you consider other manufacturers' engine performance/frugality it's not even close. Luckily my work fuel allowance can cover weekend blasts, because I may as well be running a C63. Economy (lack of) was considered when buying the car and it's definitely worth every unnecessary downshift. At least that's what I'm telling myself and others. I don't hate anything else, there are niggles now and again, the odd rattle or creak. It's a Vauxhall. I'm over it."

Hard ride one of few drawbacks
Hard ride one of few drawbacks
Costs:
"Insurance was interesting, having managed to get quoted £550 fully comp when I paid £500 for a 1.2 Corsa. Prices for non-warrantied parts and repairs are slightly silly, and if (when) presented with such bills I may consider aftermarket goodies. No other costs to mention yet, with a recall for tyre pressure sensors being covered under warranty. Oh, and did I mention it's expensive to fuel..."

What's next:
"I have bolted in a massive Regal air intake for no reason other than the noise and a Superchips remap has raised power to around 300hp, added some torque and made the car drive much smoother. Ironically, I like the idea of a Vauxhall warranty so any further fiddling will be carefully thought out. Nothing will be done that cannot be changed back when selling on."


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SevenR

Original Poster:

242 posts

165 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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I think they're the best looking hot hatch out there at the moment without a doubt, but as a drivers car, just not too sure about the torque steer.
With that much power though, it's got to be fun? Even if progress is not as quick as you'd like.
Not all enjoyable cars are great drivers, if you know what I mean??

TaylotS2K

1,964 posts

208 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Shoddy interiors and after sales care have always put me off buying another Vauxhall. The worst car manufacturer I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with. Having said that, I do like the look of the VXR.

PistonBroker

2,422 posts

227 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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SevenR said:
Not all enjoyable cars are great drivers, if you know what I mean??
I know exactly what you mean. Giggling as it gets out of shape . . . though perhaps just before you hit the tree?! ;-)

A client has one of these. Wanted an M3, BMW couldn't be bothered to serve him, so he went to his mate's Vauxhall dealership, test-drove one of these and now has one in that rather nice blue they do. Pretty left-field choice if the original option was an M3 IMO!

Aids0G

508 posts

150 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Good write up and great looking car! I have got a Diesel version only 165hp but the chassis is excellent fun and very composed over back roads! Wish I didn't do 25k a year as would love a VXR!

Hope you keep enjoying it! Ag

underphil

1,246 posts

211 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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SevenR said:
I think they're the best looking hot hatch out there at the moment without a doubt, but as a drivers car, just not too sure about the torque steer.
With that much power though, it's got to be fun? Even if progress is not as quick as you'd like.
Not all enjoyable cars are great drivers, if you know what I mean??
Don't these have the HiPer Strut (equivalent to Ford Revoknuckle) to sort the torque steer?

+ These have a proper mechanical diff I think, which is more than can be said for most of the opposition

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

156 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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IMO by far the best looking hot hatch, hardly any about either.

After_Shock

8,751 posts

221 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Does a superchips re-map not invalidate the warranty anyways!?

russy01

4,693 posts

182 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Surely it cant be that bad on fuel, its only a 2.0T? You must be getting 25-30mpg?

Crafty_

13,297 posts

201 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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underphil said:
Don't these have the HiPer Strut (equivalent to Ford Revoknuckle) to sort the torque steer?

+ These have a proper mechanical diff I think, which is more than can be said for most of the opposition
Correct on both counts.
I kind of find it hilarious that we're still dripping on about torque steer, reading some accounts is the old car would make you think is going to throw you in a ditch at the first sniff of the throttle. Put simply its not true.

Anyway, the J...
I should like this car but it doesn't work for me.
Vauxhall have done the same trick with this one as the last model, price it lower by putting naff wheels on it, so everyone pays for the upgrade (I think there is a sniff of this with the golf R too.)
So the wheels you see here are 20" with 245/35 tyres. That poor ride mentioned? No surprise really. It should have 18s on it. To me this looks "right", Not unlike the M135i


Width. As you can see it's a wide, squat car. Some 3.5" wider than the old one. The old one can be a pain in car parks due to the long doors, this one is going to be a whole lot worse.

Those nice brembros are a liability too, front discs and pads at a dealers are into 4 figures (the pads are £385 alone). You can get pads for £50 from ECP etc but I don't believe discs are available.

A cursory check online and a few other sources finds that gearbox issues are common. Quite why, when this box was in the vectra vxr with no issue I don't know.

All that said it's pretty easy to find a new car with the 20" wheel upgrade in the low 20s, which I guess makes it pretty good value for money? No lifetime warranty any more mind.

Not enough for me to get rid of my H though.

Edited by Crafty_ on Monday 23 February 14:41

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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A lot of value in both the exterior and interior design. It looks more expensive than it is. The proverbial concept car that got from drawing board to forecourt without being diluted.


Martin_Hx

3,955 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Definitely the best looking Hot Hatch of the last few years, that is until the new Civic comes out #fanboy loser

Not sure about it in white though!

slippery

14,093 posts

240 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Talk to me about where you're planning to store all this fuel you're thinking about stockpiling! yikes

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

156 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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After_Shock said:
Does a superchips re-map not invalidate the warranty anyways!?
Yes it probably does, but everybody already knows this and nobody cares! I think everyone is well aware of the risks of mapping a car but modern engines appear to come out the factory so understressed that a nice re-map is giving you exactly what the manufacturr originally intended before it had to content with emission targets etc.

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

189 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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They don't do it for me, I'm afraid. Admittedly, I have only driven a couple - the 1.4T, 1.6T and the diesel in 5-door non-GTC form, but never a VXR.

They're so vast and so stiffly-sprung you can't take them on many fast UK roads, making them ideal for wider more civilised A-roads and motorways. Then you might as well be in a diesel (shudder).

It looks fantastic and I love how they have retained a lot of the concept car features, it certainly looks futuristic. I just don't think this has that 'poised' look to it that a 'hot hatch' should have, something which can be threaded down a tight section of twisting road. You'd be so concerned about the tyres / wheels / general girth of the thing that you would probably be faster in something with a smaller footprint.

Massive things. Brilliant, but only if the entire road network was widened to suit!

y2blade

56,127 posts

216 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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When are you booking it into Halfords for all the bolt on "goodies"?

dukebox9reg

1,571 posts

149 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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I find with the flexride suspension even with the 20's they ride actually quite well. My brother in law has a top spec 165 diesel with the 20s and set in comfort its a lot better than my Countryman on 18's.

They are heavy cars and because of it the warm versions are not particularity fast. Again my Countryman cooper S is quicker than the 1.6 T Astra and it really shouldn't be.

I think the Astra came out at the wrong time, with the ST completely undercutting it by a huge margin on cost(I realise the VXR on spec should be really be compared against the RS) The Golf R and M135 only costing a little bit more.

The ageing Megane and the Civic arguably is its only true rival and that's not even out yet and the Megane for all its brilliance is not a massive seller.

They are a rare sight. I've seen a lot more Clio RS 200T's about and that's saying something.

That being said they are so much much much better than the previous VXR.

Thomo97

67 posts

191 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Rather bizarrely I got given one of these, or rather the Opel equivalent, as a hire car in Geneva last year. This unexpected upgrade meant my usual trudge around a variety of Alpine resorts in a wheezing Up!, Fiesta or Clio was transformed.

The acceleration was awesome, the handling felt balanced and the cabin was a pretty decent place to be. Powering up the road to La Plagne (21 hairpins) was epic. The ride was very very hard though and it was a huge relief that the petrol used was going on expenses.

Very impressed by how the power was delivered to the front wheels. My usual car is an ageing 9-5 Aero and I was expecting 280bhp in a relatively light car to lead to a few sketchy moments, not the case at all ... maybe I wasn't trying hard enough!

Great fun to use for four days but I’m not sure I could live with one.


PistonBroker

2,422 posts

227 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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neil1jnr said:
Yes it probably does, but everybody already knows this and nobody cares!
Point taken, but I think what After_Shock was getting at was that the car's owner in the article states that he wants to keep his warranty.

Surely an induction kit and remap is already placing that under threat?

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Some Vauxhall dealer supplied remaps do not affect the warranty, although it could be that they back them up i think.


dukebox9reg

1,571 posts

149 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Alucidnation said:
Some Vauxhall dealer supplied remaps do not affect the warranty, although it could be that they back them up i think.
SEAT did that for a small while at some dealerships with REVO maps.

Didn't realise Vauxhall were at it aswell.
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