RE: Mini Cooper: Spotted

RE: Mini Cooper: Spotted

Tuesday 24th February 2015

Mini Cooper: Spotted

Race ready but road legal with 148hp. Looks rather fun...



It probably won't have escaped your attention recently that classic Minis have become rather expensive. A quick scour through PH throws up this left-hand drive British Open at £8,000 and this odd cabriolet at £14,995. When even a Mayfair automatic is nearly £5K you know they've all got it bad.

Face it, you really want a go
Face it, you really want a go
In light of those, £9,995 for this Cooper appears entirely reasonable. To the uninitiated it may look like a Cooper with a few stickers on but this is in fact a very serious little racing car.

'No expense spared' is used to describe this car's transformation and there seems little reason to doubt that. Sold as a plain old Cooper in 1991, it was purchased by 'The English Brothers' in 2002. They may sound like a pair of crooks from a gangster film but are in fact very successful sprint and hillclimb racers. Work began soon after to turn this car into an ultimate hillclimb machine, until it was purchased in 2011 by Mini racer Patrick Mortimer as a present for his wife.

The spec is just incredible. A Stage 3 1,380cc engine making 148hp with Omega pistons, a Kent cam, Weber carb and MED race cylinder head. There are Straight-cut gears, a paddle clutch and Salisbury LSD. As well as genuine Minilites on Yokohama Advans, Gaz adjustable dampers and a Cooper S brakes. That's before you get to the interior. A lot of time and money has clearly been invested into making this Mini a superbly capable and very successful racer.

Hold on tight!
Hold on tight!
Moreover, driving any old Mini is going to be fun. This version will surely only intensify the feeling, louder and faster and sharper while you bob along the road. And it really can be used off the track as it remains fully road legal. There's an MOT until May. Can you imagine a B-road thrash in this? A daily commute? The weekly shop? The appeal may wear off but it must be hilarious for a while. In theory it could be driven to a track day, embarrass quite a few cars and then be taken on the road home again. Would take some commitment mind...

Of course the benefit to using something so light as the basis for a competition car is the low cost of consumables. Apparently the engine has an invoice for many thousands and making over 100hp per litre it will probably require some specialist care. But tyres and brakes would surely last ages, and the suspension components aren't stressed by excess weight. You wouldn't even need a big trailer.

Finally there's the cool factor associated with being an old Mini. Who doesn't love 'em? Especially really fast ones? It won't be for those who just want to pootle around but for anyone who loves driving they would surely be hard pressed to buy more grins for £10K.


MINI COOPER
Engine:
1,380cc four-cyl
Transmission: 4-speed manual, front-wheel drive, limited-slip differential
Power (hp): 148@N/Arpm
Torque (lb ft): N/A
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1991
Recorded mileage: 53,885
Price new: £6,995
Yours for: £9,995

See the original advert here.





 

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Dave G fsi

Original Poster:

988 posts

130 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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A lot of want for this!

Selling the Focus RS would fund it, hmmm......

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Given the amount of work that's clearly gone into it, £10k sounds rather good value. smile

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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If this is as advertised, it is VERY good value, as a past owner of quick Mini's I think you need to spend a minute to think how quick this would really be on a suitable country jaunt (Full on sweaty palms), there will not be a lot that can live with it, and at that price.................

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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With the straight-cut box that will feel absolutely mental with 140hp and sub-600kg.

Root Ginger

37 posts

219 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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I'd imagine that would require regular rebuilds with that amount of power but it would be extremely fast 250BHP/Tonne

RS404

319 posts

202 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Yeah I'd love a go. But I suspect I might appear on Quest's 'Destroyed in Seconds'!

Repent

358 posts

173 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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What a bargain! cloud9

garyfrogeye

406 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Really 148BHP ?

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Of course the story is more than power-to-weight ratio, alone. Also the mass. Launch it, turn it, stop it... there's likely a lot of fun there.

Zad

12,699 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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When I saw the headline I thought oh dear... Another 1.8 tonne immense German barge. Then I saw it biggrin

driving

These are even faster than you might think. Why? Well other people like them. People wave at you and actually let you out of side roads because, well, because it is a Mini. A total totty magnet too, from my limited experience. I wouldn't sell an RS for it though.


Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Zad said:
A total totty magnet too, from my limited experience. I wouldn't sell an RS for it though.
Not much totty will cope with a cage that has door bars and a straight-cut box, even if you were driving gently. No less true though. biggrin

Steamer

13,857 posts

213 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Ummm... in the light of all the recent 'Blue oval - rose tinted glasses' madness (ie: rotten / fake / bodged 1300 4 door escorts with mexico stickers on demanding north of 10K) - Doesnt that make this somewhat of a bargain?!

1430

81 posts

117 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Any proof of 148bhp never heard of a NA A series making anything like that. From what i've read race engines need constant maintenance and rebuilds.

V8 TEJ

375 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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It must still be a quick car even if it isn't quite managing to produce the full 148 bhp. I used to see Rae Davis a lot many years ago who had a few tuned A-series engined race car as some of you may know. They were all certainly fast.

I also remember attending the Middlesex RSOC meetings in the mid '90s at the White Hart pub near Heathrow Airport. Racing used to take place on the dual carriageway (A4 Bath Road) until it was put to an end (predictably) by the local police. Eventually all sorts of cars used to turn up and 'race' the RS Turbo's and Cossies down the road. I remember a brand new (M or N reg at the time) E36 M3 wheelspinning 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear! Anyway, one day a blue/turquoise coloured Mini clubman (with quad headlights) and 7x13 Minilites turned up. I knew this car from magazine features I had read at the time. IIRC it had around 200 bhp from a heavily modified turbo'd A series. Probably started off as a Metro Turbo engine (which was my first car, miss that :-() but the way this thing shifted was unbelievable! like a video that had been played on fast x 2 setting!! All you could hear was the whining of the straight cut gears as it rocketed off in to the distance, and then appeared again out of nowhere. Needless to say many a Cossie owner were scratching their heads Lol. Everytime I see a fast (proper) Mini it reminds me of that mental blue car from years ago.

Blayney

2,948 posts

186 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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1430 said:
Any proof of 148bhp never heard of a NA A series making anything like that. From what i've read race engines need constant maintenance and rebuilds.
Reading the actual advert it is making 146bhp @ flywheel. I see no reason why not looking at the spec.

It says it makes power between 3000rpm and 8000rpm ie horrible on the road.

Bet it is riot when flat out though.

garyfrogeye

406 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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OK at the flywheel, I didn't read it properly. My frogeye (1330 A series) gives 91 at the flywheel but only 62 at the wheels on Aldon's RR.

mrtwisty

3,057 posts

165 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Blayney said:
It says it makes power between 3000rpm and 8000rpm ie horrible on the road
Why's that then?

Blayney

2,948 posts

186 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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mrtwisty said:
Blayney said:
It says it makes power between 3000rpm and 8000rpm ie horrible on the road
Why's that then?
I couldn't say it as a fact as I've not driven the car in question but do you do 3000rpm starts everywhere and never drive below that? I've read countless times were some one will fit a race cam to a road mini and hate the car because it needs revs all the time.

HorneyMX5

5,309 posts

150 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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They've had this for a while and I really, really want it. I've had a lot of minis but not in recent years, this looks a bargain and brilliant for getting into sprinting and hillclimbing.

mrtwisty

3,057 posts

165 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Blayney said:
mrtwisty said:
Blayney said:
It says it makes power between 3000rpm and 8000rpm ie horrible on the road
Why's that then?
I couldn't say it as a fact as I've not driven the car in question but do you do 3000rpm starts everywhere and never drive below that? I've read countless times were some one will fit a race cam to a road mini and hate the car because it needs revs all the time.
Ahh, I understood it to mean that the powerband was mostly between 3k and 8k, not that you would need 3k revs just to set off. That does sound like it would become tiresome very quickly in traffic!