RE: New Jaguar XF - pricing and spec

RE: New Jaguar XF - pricing and spec

Wednesday 1st April 2015

New Jaguar XF - pricing and spec

Orders being taken on the XF today with UK prices from £32K; see here for full details



Jaguar's press release for the new XF is 9,788 words. Quite a big deal then. Following its New York debut there are now UK pricing details, performance stats plus more information on the technology and engineering.

You see XE, Jaguar says F-Type
You see XE, Jaguar says F-Type
The numbers will inevitably come up soon enough so where better to begin? Jaguar dealers are taking orders now on the XF, with the range starting at £32,300 for a 163hp XF Diesel Prestige manual. Both it and the 180hp diesel are offered in Prestige, R-Sport and Portfolio spec. The R-Sport is £1,900 more than a Prestige, then the Portfolio is another £2,200 on top of that. The premium for the more powerful Ingenium diesel is £500 for the Prestige (£32,800) and £900 for the other two models. All understood? Excellent. Oh, and the auto adds £750.

Both versions of the 163hp diesel reach 62mph in 8.7 seconds and 132mph, with the 180hp adding 4mph to that top speed and recording a 0-62 time of 8.0 seconds (or 8.1 with the auto).

For now both the 3.0-litre, 300hp diesel and 380hp supercharged V6 are offered in 'S' spec, both priced at £49,950. And the all important CO2? The lower-powered manual diesel emits 104g/km (with 5g/km added for the auto), all 180hp diesels are rated at 114g/km, the 3.0-litre diesel is at 144g/km (a 535d is 143g/km, for reference) and the V6 S produces 198g/km.

Aluminium gets weight down to 1,545kg
Aluminium gets weight down to 1,545kg
But of course there are other very important numbers associated with the new XF, those relating to kerbweight. Much has been made of the aluminium intensive architecture and intelligent use of materials in the construction, after all. The result? A weight 'from 1,545kg' for the manual 163hp diesel. An impressive figure that we'll await independent verification on. The bigger engines add a fair bit from the official figures, both the 3.0-litre cars weighing over 1,700kg.

Much is being made by Jaguar of the interior technology and innovation, the car being described as a 'connected XF'. A standard 'InControl Touch' infotainment system can be upgraded to Touch Pro, the latter promising a "truly outstanding multimedia experience" from its brand new design. There's also a 60Gb solid state drive for storing map data, an Ethernet connection and a host of integrated smartphone apps for infotainment, nav and so on.

Anyway, to more PH relevant tech. There are two damper options available, adaptive dampers with Configurable Dynamics on the V6 models but also some very interesting new passive items. In Jaguar's words they "enable frequency-dependent damping - the ability to vary damping force not only with the velocity that the damper piston moves at, but also as a function of its frequency." An additional valve in the damper piston provides an additional bypass for the fluid; open at low speeds to reduce damping force and allow a supple ride, it then closes at higher speed to firm things back up again.

Front overhang now 66mm shorter
Front overhang now 66mm shorter
All XFs will have torque vectoring by braking as standard, as well as the electric power steering recently developed for the F-Type and XE. The six-speed manual has been developed by ZF, Jaguar claiming it "sets standard for efficiency and shift quality." All-Surface Progress Control (ASPC) is available on automatic models and uses Land Rover technology to ensure, well, progress on all surfaces. The electronics control brake and throttle inputs, the driver just having to steer their way out.

As you would expect given a 10,000-word press release, there's much more on the XF. It's simply that the autonomous emergency braking, Queue Assist and semi-autonomous parking didn't seem of primary PH interest. It may even be quite enjoyable for the driver to drive you know! We'll hope to find out soon.



 

Author
Discussion

GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,096 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
I'm getting confused.

If they are taking orders for the new XF, when does it actually hit the showrooms?

I thought they still had the XE to do first, or perhaps the order book has already been open for some time?

I'm sure there's a good reason why most manufacturers phase new product launches...

Anyway, regardless of that for me the new XF doesn't have enough to differentiate it from the previous one.

Perhaps not enough of a wow factor to draw in the new customers they are presumably looking for.

If they didn't buy the last one in volumes, will they buy this one? Or perhaps another 520d instead.

Edited by GTEYE on Wednesday 1st April 11:58


Edited by GTEYE on Wednesday 1st April 12:00

Fetchez la vache

5,572 posts

214 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
I had to click on the last image to see a larger version as I thought you'd posted a picture of an A4 as an April fools joke...

Jamiae

26 posts

123 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
It's £1750 for the auto rather than £750, judging from configuration on the Jaguar website. I dislike the way the 180hp diesel engine costs more to upgrade in higher specs too. Easily avoided by choosing a 6-cylinder option though wink

I really like this car. A bit more classy than the XE (which I also like). Will look forward to a test drive in the future, and possibly becoming a Jaguar man when I next change cars.

DRodgers

44 posts

125 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
Maybe it's my eyes, but it looks nothing like an A6 to me, alot like the previous XF but not much like an A6. I do have an eye test booked for next week mind...

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
My father's well up for this (was put off the XE by the lack of a decent diesel option).

My concern is that he finds the existing XF a bit large. This appears from the PRs to be no longer, but I've yet to see a figure for the width. Can anyone track this down? It looks wider to me in the photos.

Jamiae

26 posts

123 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
Johnnytheboy said:
My father's well up for this (was put off the XE by the lack of a decent diesel option).

My concern is that he finds the existing XF a bit large. This appears from the PRs to be no longer, but I've yet to see a figure for the width. Can anyone track this down? It looks wider to me in the photos.
Taken from the Jaguar website, makes it look 14mm wider (Edit to include values of current XF in brackets):

DIMENSIONS
Front track (mm) 1,605 (up from 1,559)
Rear track (mm)1,594 (down from 1,605)
Overall height (mm) 1,457 (down from 1,468)
Wheelbase (mm) 2,960 (up from 2,909)
Overall length (mm) 4,954 (down from 4,961)
Overall width including mirrors (mm) 2,091 (up from 2,077)
Overall width with mirrors folded (mm) 1,987 (up from 1,939)

Ground Clearance fully laden (mm) 116
Internal headroom - Front (mm) 991
Internal headroom - Rear (mm) 970
Turning circle (m) 11.61
Boot volume with Jaguar Tyre Repair System (litres VDA) 540
Boot volume with space saver (litres VDA) 505


Edited by Jamiae on Wednesday 1st April 13:20

Newro

703 posts

262 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
Johnnytheboy said:
My father's well up for this (was put off the XE by the lack of a decent diesel option).

My concern is that he finds the existing XF a bit large. This appears from the PRs to be no longer, but I've yet to see a figure for the width. Can anyone track this down? It looks wider to me in the photos.
No figures by hand, but it certainly is no wider. It probably appears that way as it is shorter than the existing XF. Which is a good thing IMHO, as the current one is much bigger on the road as it seems. Which was probably a compromise taken to make the styling work so well.

As an existing XF owner I am a bit disappointed by engines promoted for both the XE and new XF. I know that most people will opt for the 4 cylinder anyway, but the thing I love most about mine is the 3.0L V6. Which is now a rather pricey step compared to the old XF.


Personally I would almost prefer an XE over the new XF, as the my single biggest criticism on my XF is the size and weight. I don't need the space in the back, and the styling, especially in the rear, seems more together. But so far only the 'S' version is offered with a V6, which starts at 45k - Ouch! And no V6 diesel.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
Newro said:
Personally I would almost prefer an XE over the new XF, as the my single biggest criticism on my XF is the size and weight. I don't need the space in the back, and the styling, especially in the rear, seems more together. But so far only the 'S' version is offered with a V6, which starts at 45k - Ouch! And no V6 diesel.
That's exactly the predicament my father has.

He doesn't need the size of the XF, but he loves his diesel V6. There's not even a 2l diesel in a particularly high state of tune to keep him happy.

dvance

605 posts

168 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
Absolutely hate the engine line up. More diesels is exactly what busy cities need -- thanks but no thanks, I'd like my lungs cancer free please.

I think they are missing a trick by not including a clever engine like the 1.5L EcoBoost from Ford which would have comparable performance to the 1.8L diesels they are selling but give people a petrol option alongside the diesel. Would probably be much more appropriate for people who use their cars more regularly on shorter journeys as well.

Rant over biggrin

T1berious

2,259 posts

155 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
I'm guessing the 6 cylinder diesel powerplants will be arriving later? I'm guessing the fleet friendly 2.0D will be the big seller but I'm surprised there isn't a monster diesel to take on the bigger units at Mercedes, BMW and Audi.

I hope the UK market sees 4WD rather than it being just North America.

RichardR

2,892 posts

268 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
At last, a manual 'box! clap

This will definitely be on the shortlist when my current car comes up for replacement. I'm just hoping that the anticipated rear space will be there to accommodate my rapidly growing, near-teenage son behind my tall frame... scratchchin

Slinky1989

324 posts

182 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
dvance said:
Absolutely hate the engine line up. More diesels is exactly what busy cities need -- thanks but no thanks, I'd like my lungs cancer free please.

I think they are missing a trick by not including a clever engine like the 1.5L EcoBoost from Ford which would have comparable performance to the 1.8L diesels they are selling but give people a petrol option alongside the diesel. Would probably be much more appropriate for people who use their cars more regularly on shorter journeys as well.

Rant over biggrin
Petrol is coming! Not till next year though, still got a manufacturing line to finish yet.

TurboHatchback

4,160 posts

153 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
A V6 S auto would be a very nice wafter I imagine, everybody go buy one of those so I can have it in 7-10 years please smile.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
Looks good, some of the options sound very swanky. Laser HUD sounds rather good.

DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
Slinky1989 said:
dvance said:
Absolutely hate the engine line up. More diesels is exactly what busy cities need -- thanks but no thanks, I'd like my lungs cancer free please.

I think they are missing a trick by not including a clever engine like the 1.5L EcoBoost from Ford which would have comparable performance to the 1.8L diesels they are selling but give people a petrol option alongside the diesel. Would probably be much more appropriate for people who use their cars more regularly on shorter journeys as well.

Rant over biggrin
Petrol is coming! Not till next year though, still got a manufacturing line to finish yet.
The entire project appears very much to be a launch aimed around the fleet and company market.

All these fiddly options and small engine focus seem to fit in with various lease and fleet expectations and requirements.

It's good to see Jag recognising that for both large, medium and small saloons fleet/corporate sales are the single most important aspect above absolutely everything else.

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
dvance said:
Absolutely hate the engine line up. More diesels is exactly what busy cities need -- thanks but no thanks, I'd like my lungs cancer free please.

I think they are missing a trick by not including a clever engine like the 1.5L EcoBoost from Ford which would have comparable performance to the 1.8L diesels they are selling but give people a petrol option alongside the diesel. Would probably be much more appropriate for people who use their cars more regularly on shorter journeys as well.

Rant over biggrin
You're right. This reveals a shortsightedness in EU efforts to "consumerise" CO2 as a running cost -- whilst holding an incomplete view on meta-level system inputs such as fuels, powertrains and manufacturer innovation.

Arguably the creative capital of the world, London deserves better than Beijing standards of air quality.









Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
T1berious said:
I'm guessing the 6 cylinder diesel powerplants will be arriving later?
There's a twin-turbo V6 diesel from launch.

philmots

4,631 posts

260 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
Looking forward to a current XFR in 3 years time.. Can't afford current prices!

em177

3,131 posts

164 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
They do a manual? News to me.

ali355

385 posts

171 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
quotequote all
As an owner of a 2011 XFR I can see me changing to a V6 S in 3 to 4 years time, I definitely like the exterior evolution but unsure about the interior. Need more pics of an ivory/cream interior to judge how the new design compares to the current cabin. It's a shame you can't upgrade the infotainment in the old car with the new kit as the laggy screen/controls is the only bugbear I have about my car!