RE: Lincoln Continental - New York 2015

RE: Lincoln Continental - New York 2015

Thursday 2nd April 2015

Lincoln Continental - New York 2015

The vast American luxury sedan makes a triumphant return



One of the first things you notice as a car nerd in 2015 New York is that almost all of the Crown Victoria taxis have gone, replaced for the most part by a motley assortment of Toyotas, Hondas and Nissans. And that almost all of the vast Lincoln Town Cars that used to ply their trade as limos on the city's streets have disappeared too, replaced by the unlikely sight of hundreds of equally vast blacked-out SUVs. It's a timely reminder that the big American saloon is pretty much dead.

Looks like a V8, actually uses Ecoboost V6
Looks like a V8, actually uses Ecoboost V6
Which is why it was great to find the Lincoln Continental concept at the show. Ford's supposedly posher US sister brand has been struggling for years, producing little more than fractionally blingier versions of Blue Oval products and incredibly pretentious advertising. This looks like a great place to start a future back-to-basics direction, and the show hadn't even opened before people were likening it to a blue-collar Bentley.

This in turn triggered a spectacular social media scrap with the real Bentley, where design boss Luc Donckerwolke clearly reckoned the American Conti was far closer to imitation than flattery. "I would have called it a Flying Spur and kept the four round lights," he wrote on his Facebook page, before posting "do you want us to send you the product tooling?" on the page of David Woodhouse, Lincoln's design director. Proper handbags.

But while you can't deny there's a strong similarity between the two cars, Lincoln can argue that it's been producing vast, square-rigged saloons for longer than Bentley has. Remember The Matrix? That featured a 1965 Lincoln Continental with suicide rear doors with more than enough presence to out-act Keanu Reeves during the time they shared together; at the same time Bentley was still doing curved wings.

Lincoln is happy, Bentley less so
Lincoln is happy, Bentley less so
Anyway, enough bitching. The Continental looked great on the stand, and is clearly very close to production reality. Power comes from a 3.0-litre Ecoboost V6 slightly disappointingly - if ever a car was designed for V8 wuffle it's this one - and the interior is superbly over-the-top. How can you not love a car with 30-way adjustable power seats? And carpets thick and soft enough to make the back of a Rolls-Royce Phantom feel like it's trimmed in nylon weave.

We're also told that something very similar will be going on sale as early as next year in the 'States, and there are also rumours that the production version will get the Focus RS's super clever torque biasing four-wheel drive system, although probably not the Ford's drift mode.

There's zero chance of it coming to the UK, sadly - certainly not unless you want to ship one in yourself. But just think how much fun it would be to drive one into the Bentley car park and see the reaction...

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Original Poster:

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To my eyes it looks far nicer then the Bentley.
Never thought I'd type that.

soad

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176 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Yes, I remember The Matrix. biggrin


Amirhussain

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163 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Not 100% sure about the wheels, but I do like the look of the car.

Burwood

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246 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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A 3 litre engine lolol

Typical American rubbish. Bentley will be worried lol

unsprung

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124 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Word on the street is that this car was designed with the intention of making a significant push into the Chinese market -- where incremental sales and lifetime customer value are likely to be greatest.

IIRC, 3.0 liters is the cut-off in China for favourable taxation. Additionally, the interior of this car is heavily biased toward the back-seat occupants. Well-to-do Chinese like to be driven in their cars; Americans and Europeans prefer to drive themselves.

The design language of some exterior elements is also decidedly Asian (Kia-esque grille for example). Little can be seen of Lincoln heritage of the early 1960s -- the halcyon days of Lincoln design that many Americans associate with Lincoln (see also the photo above from The Matrix).


VladD

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265 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Looks more like an Audi A8 than a Bentley to me.

Does anyone remember the computer game Interstate 76? The Lincoln featured in that as well.

Edited by VladD on Thursday 2nd April 13:51

Dinoboy

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Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Wheels are awful but other than that I like it.

loafer123

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unsprung said:
Word on the street is that this car was designed with the intention of making a significant push into the Chinese market -- where incremental sales and lifetime customer value are likely to be greatest.

IIRC, 3.0 liters is the cut-off in China for favourable taxation. Additionally, the interior of this car is heavily biased toward the back-seat occupants. Well-to-do Chinese like to be driven in their cars; Americans and Europeans prefer to drive themselves.

The design language of some exterior elements is also decidedly Asian (Kia-esque grille for example). Little can be seen of Lincoln heritage of the early 1960s -- the halcyon days of Lincoln design that many Americans associate with Lincoln (see also the photo above from The Matrix).
Very interesting.

I do think the chrome sill is quite reminiscent of the Kennedy era Continental, though.

jimfoz

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Thursday 2nd April 2015
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It's a step in the right direction probably - in particular with Lincoln. There current range bears no resemblance to the impressive cars they used to produce in the 60's and to a certain extent the 70's. The same can also be said of Cadillac and their dreadful razor edge design fetish.

pSyCoSiS

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Thursday 2nd April 2015
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I think that's a rather nice looking motor.

Otispunkmeyer

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unsprung said:
Word on the street is that this car was designed with the intention of making a significant push into the Chinese market -- where incremental sales and lifetime customer value are likely to be greatest.

IIRC, 3.0 liters is the cut-off in China for favourable taxation. Additionally, the interior of this car is heavily biased toward the back-seat occupants. Well-to-do Chinese like to be driven in their cars; Americans and Europeans prefer to drive themselves.

The design language of some exterior elements is also decidedly Asian (Kia-esque grille for example). Little can be seen of Lincoln heritage of the early 1960s -- the halcyon days of Lincoln design that many Americans associate with Lincoln (see also the photo above from The Matrix).
I believe that is what brought use the mark I Skoda Superb. It was based on a passat of the same vintage that was stretched in its wheel base and sold to china. As you say, they like all the room in the back because they want to be driven around, not do it themselves.

Goofnik

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Thursday 2nd April 2015
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I'm surprised they did a 3.0L. They already have a 3.5L Ecoboost that's used in everything from F-150 pickup trucks to the Taurus to even the upcoming Ford GT.

Insanity Magnet

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supertouring

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Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Bentley Chief Designer "Luc Donckerwolke"

Best name I have seen for a long time - is it pronounced LUKE DONKEYWONKY?


irocfan

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Burwood said:
A 3 litre engine lolol

Typical American rubbish. Bentley will be worried lol
nicely reasoned argument there - 50 years ago Bentley would have been worried, now obviously not so much. However if Lincoln can get their act together in the same way that Bentley did (remember not too long ago the Bentley was just a badge-engineered RR - and not particularly better for it either) especially in the far east then who knows

LordGrover

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Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Any pics of interior then?

Burwood

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irocfan said:
Burwood said:
A 3 litre engine lolol

Typical American rubbish. Bentley will be worried lol
nicely reasoned argument there - 50 years ago Bentley would have been worried, now obviously not so much. However if Lincoln can get their act together in the same way that Bentley did (remember not too long ago the Bentley was just a badge-engineered RR - and not particularly better for it either) especially in the far east then who knows
OK how about. A 3 litre will never have the refinement needed to be class leading. The interior is a chromed disgrace. The exterior is a blatant copy of a Bentley. It does not have enough power for what is a flagship (should be 500+) But it will appeal perfectly to the tasteless Chinese market. Poor mans RR/Bentley

FourWheelDrift

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VladD said:
Looks more like an Audi A8 than a Bentley to me.
A Chinese A8 copy. yes

V8Matthew

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166 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Looks alright to me. It would stand out here too, if everybody isn't too busy frotting themselves up against Audis.

soad

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supertouring said:
Bentley Chief Designer "Luc Donckerwolke"

Best name I have seen for a long time - is it pronounced LUKE DONKEYWONKY?

laugh