RE: Jaguar XF 5.0 V8: PH Carpool

RE: Jaguar XF 5.0 V8: PH Carpool

Tuesday 7th April 2015

Jaguar XF 5.0 V8: PH Carpool

Even a 14mpg average can't put this PHer off his V8 Jaguar



Name: Steve Grosvenor
Car: Jaguar XF 5.0 V8 S Premium Luxury
Owned since: January 2014
Previously owned: 1987 Mini Mayfair, 1997 Peugeot 306 XS, 1996 Lotus Elise S1, 2003 Saab 9-3 2.0T Aero HOT

There's a hunk of glorious V8 under there
There's a hunk of glorious V8 under there
Why I bought it:
"Having had an early exposure to motorsport, with my parents being part of the Silverstone Members' Club, it's fair to say that fast cars have always been in my blood. Now I have a young family, it was obvious the S1 Elise might not be up to the job - despite suggesting to my wife that we might be able to get away with a boot rack on the rear clam for the baby seat! I'm a fan of having slightly unusual cars, so wanted something different to the usual mainstream BMW/Audi/Merc options. The Saab fitted the bill, and due to the rarity of the spec that I wanted at the time we had to travel to Chigwell to source that car from the main dealer. Fast forward several years and after lots of fun the Saab was due for replacement. Initially I started looking for 3.0 V6 petrol XFs, but a trip to my local Jaguar dealer for research purposes presented this lovely 5.0 V8 in my ideal colour combination of black paintwork with a black leather interior and black piano wood. It was perfect in every way.

"I did however spend the next two months trying to seek alternatives, almost trying to justify the fact that I didn't really 'need' such a big engine. I considered various A5s, A6s, Passat CCs and even more mundane stuff. In the end though, my heart had already clearly won the battle and I went back to view the V8 Jaguar again. I knew it was still there, as I'd been checking online several times a week!

"After a great test drive on some country roads, the deal was done. My logic all along had been: they won't be allowed to make cars with engines like this eventually when everything goes electric, so I'd better own one now while the opportunity is there. Somehow, I also managed to convince my wife along the way!"

Interior a big part of the appeal for Steve
Interior a big part of the appeal for Steve
What I wish I'd known:
"Nothing has surprised me really. I'd had plenty of time to do my research (whilst half-heartedly looking at other cars!). I knew the car was going to come with a very comprehensive warranty, so wasn't particularly concerned about much. That approach has been justified so far. Apart from a new Bluetooth telephone module that was covered under warranty the car has been faultless."

Things I love:
"I love the exclusivity. From what I've read, there were only 140 of these made for the UK market, and my car is one of only 25 made in this year of production. Every journey has an element of drama. Press the pulsing starter button and watch the air vents rotate and the gear selector raise out of the centre console. It all adds to the sense of being in something special. The effortlessness at which this car cruises and cossets is sublime.

"It also has a split personality. Switch to Dynamic mode, turn the gear selector to Sport, use the paddle shifters and it's like a different car. The normal V8 rumble becomes a deep howl. It's addictive, even as low as 2,000rpm. The speed at which this thing goes from nought to naughty is unbelievable and puts a silly smile on your face as things in the rear view mirror become very small, very quickly. The seats are some of the best I've ever sat in - 16-way fully electric seat, both heated and cooled, means it's easy to get the perfect driving position. I love the understated looks. Bags of performance from the 385hp 5.0 V8, yet discreet looks that don't attract any unwanted attention. Little details on my specific car, like the red wheel centre caps on the 20-inch 'Selena' wheels, make the world of difference to my eyes too."

Definitely not a diesel
Definitely not a diesel
Things I hate:
"Hate is too strong a word for anything to do with this car. Perhaps traction in the wet is my biggest gripe. It'll go sideways at the merest touch of the accelerator in the wet. Perhaps I'll try a different brand of tyre next time from the Dunlop Sport Maxx tyres fitted at the moment."

Where I've been:
"Predominantly various family trips across the country and holidays to the south coast, as well as a week on the Isle of Wight. A memorable trip to Oulton Park too to see the Lotus Elise Trophy races was great, and one we hope to repeat again this year."

Costs:
"I guess fuel is the answer most people are expecting to see in this section. With an average of about 14.5mpg (dipping to about 7mpg occasionally when Dynamic Sports mode is engaged!) it is a consideration, but one that is offset a commute of only three miles each way at the moment. Besides, the Saab only did about 18mpg, so the difference is hardly noticeable really. Just fill it up when it's empty, and let the fun continue!

"It's fair to say that my cars get pampered somewhat under my ownership. Perhaps my most rewarding cost has been having Richard at Reflections Detailing work his magic. He has fully detailed the bodywork to make to it pristine, and protected it all using only the best products from the Gyeon range. His work is fantastic, and my weekly clean always leaves the car looking fantastic given the groundwork Richard put in."

What's next:
"It's time to test the old Jaguar motto of Grace, Pace and Space soon when we take it on it's first Euro jaunt to Bruges. Might even see if the boot is big enough for my wife to fit in some Belgian chocolates amongst my Belgian beer..."


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Author
Discussion

stuart-b

Original Poster:

3,643 posts

226 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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First in with the "3 mile commute and you use a 5 litre V8?"

3 miles - 5km (5000 metres....) not very long to warm up - hopefully you take the long way home wink

Enjoy while you can !

Quhet

2,420 posts

146 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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stuart-b said:
First in with the "3 mile commute and you use a 5 litre V8?"

3 miles - 5km (5000 metres....) not very long to warm up - hopefully you take the long way home wink

Enjoy while you can !
In this vein, cycle to work & enjoy the car on longer business trips and on the weekend.

I need a v8 at some pointbounce

Guffy

2,311 posts

265 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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385bhp from a modern 5 litre V8? Not exactly stressed then!

mr TICKHILL

81 posts

112 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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he's getting the same mpg as me in a 3.2 xj8 with an extra 145bhp and I do 3.5 miles to work and by the time you've finished stop starting mine is totally warmed up

Jim the Sunderer

3,239 posts

182 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Are those rims big enough?

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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It's nice when the thing you looked at, early on, is still available for sale when you come round at the end. Better that, than months or years of "I should've..."


NailedOn

3,114 posts

235 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Good write up.
5.0L V8- enjoy!

saturnuranus

80 posts

188 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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mr TICKHILL said:
he's getting the same mpg as me in a 3.2 xj8 with an extra 145bhp and I do 3.5 miles to work and by the time you've finished stop starting mine is totally warmed up
I wouldn't have thought you're getting totally warmed up in 3.5 miles unless a horrendous amount of traffic is involved. I used to drive my E39 M5 to work occasionally which is a journey of just over 3 miles/~10-12 mins and the oil temp gauge would have barely moved upon arrival.

crostonian

2,427 posts

172 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Had forgotten they'd made a non supercharged 5.0 V8 XF, that fuel consumption is pretty horrendous though, my old Maserati Quattroporte never dipped below 17mpg and averaged around 20mpg.

mr TICKHILL

81 posts

112 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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saturnuranus said:
mr TICKHILL said:
he's getting the same mpg as me in a 3.2 xj8 with an extra 145bhp and I do 3.5 miles to work and by the time you've finished stop starting mine is totally warmed up
I wouldn't have thought you're getting totally warmed up in 3.5 miles unless a horrendous amount of traffic is involved. I used to drive my E39 M5 to work occasionally which is a journey of just over 3 miles/~10-12 mins and the oil temp gauge would have barely moved upon arrival.
25 to 30 minutes that's why the mx5 went uncomfortable and the route has shocking potholes

Edited by mr TICKHILL on Monday 6th April 11:35

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

183 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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My wife's had one of these for a couple of years and it really is a lovely thing. Black with Ivory (beige) leather. Spires rear exhaust for extra aural pleasure, too.

She has a more reasonable commute of 12 miles each way and averages around 24 mpg. When compared with her old 2.0 Passat (32mpg) it's really not bad at all.

The 20" Selena alloys are not suited to her, how shall we say, method of parking? wink


Hopefully, hopefully it will become my next daily driver in a couple of years, and she can get something with tiny wheels and big tyres biggrin

slikrs

125 posts

188 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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I'm having to consider factoring one of these into my sensible future - though I'll be hankering after the XFR. Fuel economy isn't a massive consideration though over 20 would be nice.

I would like to know whether the smaller wheels go over the XFR brakes or if I'd be stuck with 20"? I like a little extra rubber, they're cheaper to replace and better when I switch to winter tyres - 18" perhaps?

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

140 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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How are you getting through so much fuel Steve? My R-S is struggling to get below 21mpg.

P.S. those tyres sound awful. Get yourself some Michelin Pilot Super Sports next time around. The front P-Zeros on the R-S are cracking at 9000 miles and 1 year old. They're quite sticky, but I've yet to wear out a set of Pirellis - they always seem to just fall apart :/

Michelin PSS on my S-Type, and the XF will be getting them too soon.

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

140 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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slikrs said:
I'm having to consider factoring one of these into my sensible future - though I'll be hankering after the XFR. Fuel economy isn't a massive consideration though over 20 would be nice.

I would like to know whether the smaller wheels go over the XFR brakes or if I'd be stuck with 20"? I like a little extra rubber, they're cheaper to replace and better when I switch to winter tyres - 18" perhaps?
I'm not sure if 18s would fit but you'd certainly get 19s over these brakes. In theory I could try my 18" Tritons on from the S-Type but tbh I'm never going to get around to that!


The Leaper

4,953 posts

206 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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I've had my Jaguar XF 5.0 V8 Portfolio+ since June 2014. Previously I ran an S-Type 4.0 V8 and then a 4.2 V8 for over ten years. In my opinion this XF is a definite step up.

Mine is in my preferred colour combo of emerald fire metallic and barley. It was just 5 years old with 31,500 miles when I got it from a JMD.

As regards the earlier comment about modest performance from an unstressed engine, this is exactly the point of this model. If more performance is needed there's always the option of 500bhp with the XFR.

The OP's car has the standard equipment 20 inch setenta wheels whereas mine has 19 inch carelia wheels. These give a less harsh ride so I'm glad there on the car.

I don't commute but I do use the car nearly every day. I get around 23mpg but on a long run, say Surrey to Cornwall, I get around 28mpg assuming reasonable speeds. A steady 70mph gets me around 30mpg.

Mine has Dunlop Sport tyres fitted and I'm not that impressed with them. Maybe I'll give the Michelin Pilots a go, although these are generally not well thought of among Jaguar fans, apparently.

To add the combined info, I have discovered that this particular model is the standard car for the USA market. It was never promoted in the UK but was available to order, hence the small number and rarity. I didn't know only 140 were sold in the UK but I do know from Howmanyareleft.com that there's 69 now.

R.

Itsallicanafford

2,769 posts

159 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Cool as fk! Enjoy

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Jim the Sunderer said:
Are those rims big enough?
Yup. Not too big. Not too small. Perfect.

Diderot

7,316 posts

192 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Very nice car indeed. I had a 2008 SV8 for about six months in 2009 - great cruiser although the supercharger whine seemed a bit out of place in a barge. So I reckon your 5 litre must be just perfect on a long run.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

163 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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mr TICKHILL said:
saturnuranus said:
mr TICKHILL said:
he's getting the same mpg as me in a 3.2 xj8 with an extra 145bhp and I do 3.5 miles to work and by the time you've finished stop starting mine is totally warmed up
I wouldn't have thought you're getting totally warmed up in 3.5 miles unless a horrendous amount of traffic is involved. I used to drive my E39 M5 to work occasionally which is a journey of just over 3 miles/~10-12 mins and the oil temp gauge would have barely moved upon arrival.
25 to 30 minutes that's why the mx5 went uncomfortable and the route has shocking potholes

Edited by mr TICKHILL on Monday 6th April 11:35
30 mins to do 3.5 miles... That's 7 MPH. You could cycle it in half that time (without going fast enough to the hot) or walk it in not much longer. I couldn't bring myself to drive that, warming up or not. I wonder how much the low MPG has to do with that drive. I'm not sure how you even noticed the pot holes at that speed.

mr TICKHILL

81 posts

112 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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SteveSteveson said:
mr TICKHILL said:
saturnuranus said:
mr TICKHILL said:
he's getting the same mpg as me in a 3.2 xj8 with an extra 145bhp and I do 3.5 miles to work and by the time you've finished stop starting mine is totally warmed up
I wouldn't have thought you're getting totally warmed up in 3.5 miles unless a horrendous amount of traffic is involved. I used to drive my E39 M5 to work occasionally which is a journey of just over 3 miles/~10-12 mins and the oil temp gauge would have barely moved upon arrival.
25 to 30 minutes that's why the mx5 went uncomfortable and the route has shocking potholes

Edited by mr TICKHILL on Monday 6th April 11:35
30 mins to do 3.5 miles... That's 7 MPH. You could cycle it in half that time (without going fast enough to the hot) or walk it in not much longer. I couldn't bring myself to drive that, warming up or not. I wonder how much the low MPG has to do with that drive. I'm not sure how you even noticed the pot holes at that speed.
I know I just couldn't be bothered to cycle after work and I'd begrudge it just sitting about doing nothing