RE: Shed Of The Week: Jaguar XJ

RE: Shed Of The Week: Jaguar XJ

Friday 10th April 2015

Shed Of The Week: Jaguar XJ

A classic slice of Great British barge for Shed this week, with cash left in the pot too!



Why does the used car market hate Jaguars so?

Here's a £700 X308. Just look at what you get for your money.

Tasker & Lacy must be private detectives too
Tasker & Lacy must be private detectives too
A 3.2-litre twin-cam V8 that was quieter, smoother and more powerful than the old straight six - and that was a legendary engine in its own right. A new five-speed automatic gearbox. A stiffer body with a higher percentage of high-strength and zinc-coated steels. All new fully-independent double-wishbone suspension and braking systems. A specification list that left you wanting for nothing. 140mph performance and a low eight-second 0-60 time, or whisper-quiet cruising.

At launch, Australian PHers paid $126,000 for a new 3.2. That's the thick end of £66,000. This Shed is yours for £700. Come on.

For many, these frankly ludicrous Jaguar values apply because of the name on the bootlid. For Shed, they apply in spite of the name. Let's look at the X308 and try to work out just why they're so stupidly cheap.

Best get familiar with that filler cap location
Best get familiar with that filler cap location
This model ran from 1997 to 2003. Most significantly, it was the first Jaguar to feature a V8 engine that came in two sizes, a 290hp 4.0 or (as here) a 240hp 3.2, both with variable valve timing. These Bridgend-built AJ-V8s replaced both the straight six and V12 engines that had been powering the Jaguar range up until then. For a while in fact the V8 was the only Jaguar engine on offer, until the arrival of the AJ-V6 in the 2000-model S-Type.

The argument against these Nikasil-lined (i.e. not lined) V8s was that they didn't get along with old-style high-sulphur fuels. It was a fair argument too, as they didn't. But any car still running in 2015 will have had a replacement (i.e. conventionally linered) engine fitted. There'll be a tag on the nearside of the engine block to confirm that, so really nothing much to fear there, other than the low-20s mpg figures that will be the inevitable consequence of enthusiastic wheelery. And you'll want to be enthusiastic too: the AJ-V8 appeared on many a 'world's best engines' list, and even the 3.2 will hustle the 1,710kg XJ along at a very respectable lick, accompanied by a delicious 32-valve rasp.

Someone say 'reliability'? Well, X308s rarely dropped out of the top 10 in satisfaction surveys, and usually smooched their way into the top five. They weren't squeaky-clean, mind ye. Those ZF trannies were designed to be 'sealed for life', which meant you couldn't check or refill the oil level. Guess what happened there? Thumpy changes with rising engine speeds are your warning of impending doom. A 'flush and change' service via the oil cooler pipes is offered by specialists and gets round the complication of a 'correct' change.

When saloons just had to be saloons
When saloons just had to be saloons
Early cars had plastic cam chain tensioners, which (predictably) failed. Steel items can be retrofitted. You'd be very unlucky to be struck down by the gearbox issue at this late stage. Again, the problematic plastic-impeller water pumps and squiffy thermostats will almost certainly have all been replaced by now. Cars that still have the original two-piece water pumps will be given away by localized overheating. Dampers and front wishbones can go, especially on CATS cars (spot that by the presence of a plastic cover on the front shock with a lead going into it), so listen out for clunks.

Someone say 'electrics'? Another false alarm. Even the early X308s are OBD2 compliant, so you can plug a cheap code reader into the driver's footwell socket just like everyone else. Keep the battery well conditioned, or you might start seeing random error messages on startup. Otherwise it's all good.

You may consider the styling old school, but surely only those in dire need of new specs would argue against it being better proportioned than the current X351 XJ. The amount of interior space didn't seem to match up to the exterior dimensions, but the three-cavity dash architecture was a big step forward from the slapped-on plastic binnacle of the old X300.

Still very presentable in here too
Still very presentable in here too
The Sport model only came with the 3.2 engine, which was perhaps slightly odd, but it offered a clean, inoffensive look with none of the old-man wood slabs that placed other Jags in a certain demographic zone whiffing of cigarillos and trilbies. The Sport also had stiffer suspension and moody matt black or metallic grey in many of the places normally slathered in chrome.

You'll probably be able to find a better example than this Shed, but not for £700. Sure, there's a tiny bit of visible rust on the rear wheelarch, but Shed can't see that terminating this lovely car before the end of its MOT six months from now, or for a long time after that.

If you're looking for a place to sink some money, and not in a bad way, the X308 could well be it. Can you think of a better rendition of the XJ concept? Shed can't. You might have to beat him to this one.

Here's the ad.

SILVER, 5+ owners, Next MOT due 23/09/2015, Adjustable Steering Column/Wheel, Air Bag Driver, Air Bag Passenger, Air Bag Side, Alarm, Alloy Wheels, Central Door Locking, Climate Control, Electric Windows, Immobiliser, In Car Entertainment, Mirrors External, Power-Assisted Steering, Seat Height Adjustment, Speakers, Steering Wheel Mounted Controls, Traction Control System. £700

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Tyre Smoke

Original Poster:

23,018 posts

261 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Oooooh! I've always liked these......

Top Shedding. Proper barge.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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2 months motoring without any spend and this thing has paid for itself. When it dies break it. Top shedding.

kambites

67,561 posts

221 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Looks like the lovely example but I'm really not keen on that colour.

tobinen

9,226 posts

145 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Leaper would have to go but otherwise, top barge

Toaster Pilot

14,619 posts

158 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Motorrad said:
When it dies break it. Top shedding.
Why do people always trot this out? It's hardly simple, legal or socially acceptable for Average Joe to break a car at home and you'll be stuck with 2/3 of a car for an absolute AGE!

Lovely shed though.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

204 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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The problem I've always had with Jags (I've had 3 and still own one) is that no matter which model you get, it's always got no room in the back and the boot is really shallow. I guess it's to take golf clubs rather than anything block like.

I still like mine for what is basically taking your lounge out for the day, and often thought about an XJ instead of an S or X Type. I guess at this sort of money as long as it goes, stops, turns and doesnt explode, anything else that's not quite right (window regulators, headlamp adjustments, climate and a/c) can just be lived with or fix whenever you've got time

kambites

67,561 posts

221 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Toaster Pilot said:
Motorrad said:
When it dies break it. Top shedding.
Why do people always trot this out? It's hardly simple, legal or socially acceptable for Average Joe to break a car at home and you'll be stuck with 2/3 of a car for an absolute AGE!

Lovely shed though.
Depends on exactly what you intend to do. Fully breaking the car isn't really viable but it's not much effort or time to strip out a few of the more valuable bits to sell on ebay then scrap the rest. I'm sure you could get £500's worth of reasonably small bits off this in a few hours then weigh in the remainder for £100 or something.

Edited by kambites on Friday 10th April 09:08

SirSquidalot

4,042 posts

165 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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So much want! Couldn't part with the MX5 for one though laugh

xjreddie

9 posts

109 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Here is mine, 1999 XJR V8 Supercharged 370bhp all for £1300 !

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Want! I miss owning a Jag.

8Ace

2,682 posts

198 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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xjreddie said:
Here is mine, 1999 XJR V8 Supercharged 370bhp all for £1300 !
Jesus! Bargain of the century!


Assuming it actually works

ZesPak

24,428 posts

196 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Buy it, run it in the ground, then have your mechanic friend strip out the engine to make a coffee table? smile

Top shedding.

xjreddie

9 posts

109 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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8Ace said:
Jesus! Bargain of the century!


Assuming it actually works
The only thing not working (at the moment) is the air con and boot release button - engine was replaced by Jaguar 50k ago and runs and drives really well

Fattyfat

3,301 posts

196 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Proper job. Looks amazing value at that price even if it sts itself in a few months

Turbodiesel1976

1,957 posts

170 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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BigBen

11,641 posts

230 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Toaster Pilot said:
Motorrad said:
When it dies break it. Top shedding.
Why do people always trot this out? It's hardly simple, legal or socially acceptable for Average Joe to break a car at home and you'll be stuck with 2/3 of a car for an absolute AGE!

Lovely shed though.
I have done this with a dead car, couple of weekends work then a scrappy came and took the shell on a lorry. It was simple legal, socially acceptable and most importantly profitable.

FestivAli

1,088 posts

238 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Take out the wood and it's just any other car to me, sorry.

Geoffcapes

689 posts

164 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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xjreddie said:
Here is mine, 1999 XJR V8 Supercharged 370bhp all for £1300 !
I've an XJR itch that I need to scratch.

Off to check the classifieds.......

MadDog1962

890 posts

162 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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I like this a lot. Huge amount of waft factor for the money and almost 6 months of MoT left.

My understanding is that these are easier and cheaper to maintain than the equivalent German kit.

Only negatives (considering the money) will be:

a) Thirst
b) Insurability for some
c) Cumbersome in tight British car parks

So Arthur Daley. Her indoors would love this. laugh

Turkish91

1,087 posts

202 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Indeed, a top shed!