RE: Ultima GTR: PH Carpool

RE: Ultima GTR: PH Carpool

Monday 13th April 2015

Ultima GTR: PH Carpool

Ultima has launched a new car; here's the view from a very satisfied owner of the existing one



Name: Roger Mayers
Car: Ultima GTR
Owned since: Last May
Previously owned: "Not necessarily in the right order; Saab 900 Turbo. Porsche 911 Targa SC, two BMW M3s, Porsche GT2, Audi RS6, various company Fords, BMW X5 (what was I thinking?), Audi TT FSI, Audi A6 BiTurbo Avant (current daily wheels), BMW 535d Touring, BMW 335d Touring, BMW 335i. I also started racing Class 1 Superkarts in 1987, Formula E Karts (250cc twin Rotax six- speed - did 162mph on this at the Osterreichring must have been nuts), retired in 1996 then bought a Radical in 1998 and raced until 2003 with some success in the British and European Championship. I then bought a road legal Radical SR3 (wish I had never sold it)."

Where do you go after racing Radicals? Here!
Where do you go after racing Radicals? Here!
Why I bought it:
"Wanted a special car that ticked the road-going bit, and didn't need a crash helmet (Radical SR3 road legal) and the track day bit and looked the DB's. Also wanted something I could add too and make my own. I was going to build one but was talked out of it by the PistonHeads Ultima Forum. Found it on PistonHeads classified in Oxford and it had been built to a very high standard and was in mint condition."

What I wish I'd known:
"I'm glad I bought a low mileage used one first but would still like to build one to my own spec with the knowledge I have built up in ownership and by following the forum. Setting the car up with good manners needs a bit of work. In basic form it is a raw tool (some like it that way) but I want it, especially the controls, similar to a production car so you can concentrate on the driving. Believe me you need to concentrate."

Just as well it's basic - "You need to concentrate!"
Just as well it's basic - "You need to concentrate!"
Things I love:
"Everything! From it being easy to drive around town with the fuel-injected 7.0-litre V8 starting first time, to the raw acceleration when you feed in the power. The looks you get, they must be all over Facebook. The pure pleasure of driving something completely different and off the wall. Days out with the Supercar Club when you spend time with like-minded people add to the great ownership experience."

Things I hate:
"Can't think of anything I hate but I suppose it depends what you expect out of ownership of cars like this. The road legal Radical SR3 sort of prepared me for the driving experience."

Costs:
"Fuel - driven within speed limits and respect for others about 18mpg. Insurance - depends on age and experience but most guys like me are paying £450 to £800 with five trackdays and 3,000 miles PA. Servicing - same as a Porsche. It's serviced by Steve Smith a well known Ultima Guru. PistonHeads classifieds is the best place to source one!"

Little danger of losing it in that colour!
Little danger of losing it in that colour!
Where I've been:
"Only been on 'Permanent Vacation" a short time so trying to sort for this year. On the list - Le Mans Classic (2016 as there isn't one this year). More days out with the Supercar Club - Elvington, three days on the Welsh roads, day out in the Lake District, Donington track day and meeting up with the Radical racing guys around the country at race meetings."

What next?
"Won't be selling it anytime soon, even if I build a new one. Possible upgrades - central locking, xenon headlights, daytime LED running lights, Dash 2 Pro Display, add many of the upgrades available from the new Ultima Evolution and possible Albins paddle shift sequential gearbox."


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keith2.2

Original Poster:

1,100 posts

195 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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After the demise of my TVR, I got a call from my mum one afternoon "I've just seen your next car. I'm not sure what it was but it said GTR on the back"

Sent a pic of an R35 Nissan

"no no, it looked like a racing car!"

..oh! Mum, you're a connoisseur!

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Nice.

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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You and Shmee150 should get together.....


soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Pushrod, 7 litres, 500bhp and 7100 rpm? biggrin

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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bloody fantastic, this is so much more desirable to me than the current crop of driven by computer supercars


kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Lovely thing. smile

toys

239 posts

259 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Fabulous car in a perfect colour. I'd love to own one at some point...

btw, is that a turntable on your drive Roger??

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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soad said:
Pushrod, 7 litres, 500bhp and 7100 rpm? biggrin
Probably the LS7 "small block" as used on the sixth-generation Corvette Z06.

If so: dry sump, aluminium block and heads, titanium rods, weighs just 200kg.

jamespink

1,218 posts

204 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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7 litre & 500HP in a car that weighs the same as a yogurt pot, concentrates the mind I guess! Utterly mad/desireable...

macky17

2,212 posts

189 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Having had a C6 Z06 vette with that engine I can only imagine how it feels in something 400kg lighter!

Awesome looking thing. I was ready to buy one but at 6-4 I just don't seem to fit regardless of lowered floors and everyone telling me I would. Bought the m400 instead so not complaining too much.

zerovira

63 posts

131 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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keith2.2 said:
After the demise of my TVR, I got a call from my mum one afternoon "I've just seen your next car. I'm not sure what it was but it said GTR on the back"

Sent a pic of an R35 Nissan

"no no, it looked like a racing car!"

..oh! Mum, you're a connoisseur!
yo mama rocks, period.

As for the car, it is sort of my ideal car, it has it everything. Only wish they looked more aggressive on the front.

Forgetting about aesthetic details, my main problem with this car is that I am clearly not experienced enough to drive one. I need lots of hours behind the wheel of a proper but softer sports car before I trust myself enough to try one of these. For the moment I've bought a mercedes 190 2.6 to start practicing rwd in a cheap way.

Awesome car.

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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unsprung said:
soad said:
Pushrod, 7 litres, 500bhp and 7100 rpm? biggrin
Probably the LS7 "small block" as used on the sixth-generation Corvette Z06.

If so: dry sump, aluminium block and heads, titanium rods, weighs just 200kg.
Yes, I had to Google the engine specs.

PATTERNPART

693 posts

201 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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I'd walk past Ferraris and Porsches to have a good look at this in the flesh. Are these sort of based on some kind of McLaren Group C car mould or something?

robinessex

11,057 posts

181 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Still wished it looked better. (Whatever that means of course).

Like this :-



Edited by robinessex on Monday 13th April 16:24

Barchettaman

6,308 posts

132 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Analogue lunacy, what a wonderful thing.

SirSquidalot

4,041 posts

165 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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This car is the motoring equation of turning petrol into adrenaline. I want a go!

daytona365

1,773 posts

164 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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The looks don't need to change, they're modern classics in the same way as say a 911 is, which is a fantastic achievement.......For a 'kit car' !

Racingroj

488 posts

163 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Thanks Guys and Gals
Its an Chevrolet V8 LS7 fuel injected, 600bhp, 565ft/lbs, 1000kgs, dry sump based on 1980's Group C cars and deliberately not changed to retain that feel.
The turntable is not mine unfortunately but belongs to the previous owner.

renmure

4,242 posts

224 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Great article Roj. I got mine in October and I walk psst some nice cars in my garage to go for a drive out in the Ultima. As you know, I was interested in the one you bought... but you beat me to it smile

Infact, the cover hasn't come off my Vantage or Ferrari since I got the Ult. Every trip to the petrol station (and there have been a few) needs a few spare minutes set aside for the "what is it / how fast / how much" type questions and nothing I have owned to date gets the same type of jaw-dropping WTF looks on the road.

You only get a sense of scale and perspective when seen next to other cars...

Next to a wee Toyota Rav4



And next to an MX5





Luv it!!!! biggrin

redroadster

1,738 posts

232 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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American v8 power is still a relatively easy way for super car performance,and more characterful than most I wished ultima thought differently and decided to remodel there car it really is looking like an old kit car and it is not a cheap thing to put on the road I would not want 60 grand plus to look like that even with its performance .