RE: Abarth Punto: Unsung Hero

RE: Abarth Punto: Unsung Hero

Thursday 23rd April 2015

Abarth Punto: Unsung Hero

Overlooked both new and used, here's why the Abarth Punto is the best hot hatch you've never considered



Here's an 'Evo' that most us have probably forgotten about: the Abarth Punto Evo. I'd almost forgotten about it too, until I saw a 14-registered one the other day. Are they still selling those?, I pondered, before enquiring with Abarth HQ to find that officially, it shuffled off its mortal coil in 2014. What I saw must have been one of the very last Abarth Puntos ever registered.
Yes, an Abarth hot hatch that isn't a 500
Yes, an Abarth hot hatch that isn't a 500

And speaking of registrations, no more than 805 Abarth Puntos ever made it on the road in the UK, according to Howmanyleft. That makes it a rare beast in anyone's book. Fiat kept changing its mind about exactly what to call the Punto, so Abarth registration figures are split into 351 Grande Puntos (2008 to 2010), 316 Punto Evos (2010 to 2012) and 138 Punto Supersports (2012 to 2014).

As hot hatches go, the Punto is more warm than truly hot. The 155bhp Grande Punto did 0-62 in 8.2sec, the 165bhp Punto Evo in 7.9sec and the 180bhp Supersport in 7.5sec. The 1.4 MultiAir engine is an undoubted cracker, though: torquey, free-revving and charismatic (as long as you keep it in Sport mode).

The Punto Abarth drives like a modern version of a Fiat Uno Turbo, or Strada Abarth - a fair slug of torque-steer, giving you a twitchy bucking bronco of a ride. Say what you will, but that's something I miss in modern cars - so much more entertaining than most of today's clever-diff hot hatches.

Certainly exciting round corners...
Certainly exciting round corners...

And it's such an understated and stylish machine - so much cooler than the cartoonish Abarth 500 (a car with which I have a number of issues). The Punto was widely praised for its styling when it came out (with most hacks homing in on the 'Maserati-style' front end), but it now looks very understated. That does make it fly under the radar, with all the benefits that brings.

But the buying public has always favoured the cutesy-retro Abarth 500 over the Abarth Punto, a trend which continues today in the second-hand market. While the cheapest Abarth 500s still command £7,500, you can get a (far superior) Scorpion-badged Punto for under £6k. Bargain, I say.

Actually finding an Abarth Punto is a hard task, it seems: there are only four in the PH classifieds at the moment. The earliest ones date from 2008, and an early Grande Punto up for £6,544 has a dealer-stamped history and 57K miles on the clock.

But it's not the cheapest Abarth in the classifieds - that honour goes to a 2009 examplewith 51K miles on the clock, up for £6,000.

Late Supersport Punto up at £14,995
Late Supersport Punto up at £14,995

Going up to the post-2010 Punto Evo, there is a low-mileage (31K) 2011 example for £8,983. Right at the top end is a 2013 Supersport at £14,995.

One final observation is that Esseesse versions (extra power, funky wheels and other upgrades) seem to be extremely rare. Despite Abarth telling me that one in three buyers specified the £3,000 Esseesse pack (in the early years, at least), very few seem to crop up in the classifieds. Maybe people are hanging on to them...

 





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MikeGoodwin

Original Poster:

3,339 posts

117 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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If I were 19 years old I would most certainly look into one of these.

caelite

4,274 posts

112 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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MikeGoodwin said:
If I were 19 years old I would most certainly look into one of these.
Indeed. 6k for the car. ONLY 5.5k on insurance!

hondafreek

225 posts

170 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Seen one round our way, nice looking thing. I've never bothered looking into them though. Just missing something that makes me want one though.

trashbat

6,006 posts

153 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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It's not a terrible looking thing, but I wonder what it'd look like if you resprayed that black bumper insert to match the paint of the car?

wildcat45

8,073 posts

189 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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A while back we flirted with the dea of a 500 With a Scorpion badge on it. The garage also had a Punto to test. I loved it!

They just look so understated and I never realised they were so rare. There is one near me which I see regularly. I had a builder working for JE Ince who ran one.. Just lovely cars.

There's a kind of old fashioned feel to them. That's something I like but I can appreciate why it may have resulted in so few sales.

An interesting alternative to a MiTo - or however it's spelt?

Like a lot of affordable and rare cars I read about here, I wish I had the space and an excuse to own one.

I'm not up in the current FIAT range. Is there a new generation Punto out?


court

1,487 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Love the original Abarth Grande Punto. Good looking car and those alcantara seats and stitched dash felt like they were lifted straight from an Integrale.

The Esseesse kit was quite a big transformation with a bigger turbo, brakes, suspension, OZ wheels.


Vee12V

1,333 posts

160 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Pre-facelift only though. Later ones look chav.

Drums

266 posts

142 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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A friend of mine had a Punto Abarth Esse Esse. It felt a lot quicker than the 0-60 time would lead to believe and it's a very nice place inside. I'd still take the 500 Abarth though.

stuckmojo

2,979 posts

188 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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In my opinion, the first version is the one to have; the Turbo one. Proper pocket rocket and very tuneable.


heisthegaffer

3,399 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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stuckmojo said:
In my opinion, the first version is the one to have; the Turbo one. Proper pocket rocket and very tuneable.

Slightly off topic but still relevant.. what Fiat should have done with the mk1 was the 1.8 160BHP, LSD equipped Abarth they were planning and prototyped instead of the GT - or as well as? Back in 93/94 it would have been a class leader I reckon.

More on topic, i love the original Grande Punto abarth, I think they're very understated and the ones with the leather finished dash look fantastic. I briefly toyed with the idea of one when thinking about replacing my 182 and had a nose around an Essesse with the awesome Sabelt seats. Lovely.

I haven't driven or been in one but I view them as being very typical Fiat hot hatch - vastly underrated, like the Tipo Sedicivalvole for instance. Maybe too subtle and certainly overshadowed by the Abarth 500. I have been in one of those and loved it... aside from when we hit a bump and it felt like the whole car skipped sideways by a foot. I'd still have one though.

Fayaz LP640

185 posts

133 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Used, these are good value next to the 500. Good fun to drive too, most of the fun that the 500 offers with more practicality.

Alfa159Ti

827 posts

157 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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MikeGoodwin said:
If I were 19 years old I would most certainly look into one of these.
Agreed - I think this every time I read about these types of car.


Draexin

147 posts

170 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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They do look absolutely brilliant, I always loved the Punto design.
However the base car had one of the most vile, floaty and dead steering I've ever experienced. Is this any different?

idibbers

269 posts

128 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Love these, still tempted by one. Looked at one a few months ago, still not crossed them off my list. There's a video on youtube of someone revving their's with a supersprint catback, sounds glorious.

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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The first Grande Punto was one of the best-looking superminis ever in my book, but was butchered and then slightly patched up in successive facelifts. At times I've quite fancied an Abarth but time and place never corresponded with money - they always seemed quite pricey new and even used. In comparative terms they actually seem decent value now but my (perhaps outdated?) view of Fiat reliability probably would make me discount them now. Not sure objectively and overall how 'good' they are, but its a car I like.

The Fiat range in the UK at least is pretty hopeless isn't it - it's just the 500, basically. You used to see a few Stilos and Brava/os about, and more recently old new Pandas (if that makes sense) but pretty much the only Fiat you see nowadays is a 500 or a variation thereon. Sad really.

sandys

207 posts

246 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Great little car, can surprise a lot of things, reasonable pace and performance, feels lively without having to go way beyond speedlimits etc, where some cars only just start to wake up and its quite nice to be in something people don't know exists, leads to some interesting conversations at car events.

They tend (Abarth Punto Evos at least) to feel quicker than the figures suggest as the majority I have seen Dyno'd have more power than quoted, mine a stock 165 Evo was 180bhp/200lbft prior to Esseesse kit fitting, 195bhp,230lbs after. They seem quite reliable, mine hasn't been issue free, but have used it in anger for a few years competing and all the events along with extra torque from tuning and hard launches are bound to take there toll.

They are reasonably economical, though not as good as quoted, good comfort too on the Koni FSDs, I do ~100 miles a day in mine.

Only thing that mars the ownership experience is dealing with Abarth dealers who know very little about it either, you're lucky to get the right oil put in it at a service, assuming you can convince them that yes it does need an oil change before its 18k service .... rolleyes

geeboh

1 posts

108 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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I wish we could get this car in the USA. I really like the styling, and while it may not be very fast stock there are ways to address that in the aftermarket. I'm sure if Fiat made a pickup truck which could fit a Punto in the bed we would get that here, but a Punto? Never!

TallTom

208 posts

159 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Original 155Bhp version is 0-62 in 7.8 seconds with the sports mode on, the 8.2 seconds is without it on.

Owner of a 155Bhp for the last 3 years, quick enough to be fun and handles well!

TallTom

208 posts

159 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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sandys said:
Great little car, can surprise a lot of things, reasonable pace and performance, feels lively without having to go way beyond speedlimits etc, where some cars only just start to wake up and its quite nice to be in something people don't know exists, leads to some interesting conversations at car events.

They tend (Abarth Punto Evos at least) to feel quicker than the figures suggest as the majority I have seen Dyno'd have more power than quoted, mine a stock 165 Evo was 180bhp/200lbft prior to Esseesse kit fitting, 195bhp,230lbs after. They seem quite reliable, mine hasn't been issue free, but have used it in anger for a few years competing and all the events along with extra torque from tuning and hard launches are bound to take there toll.

They are reasonably economical, though not as good as quoted, good comfort too on the Koni FSDs, I do ~100 miles a day in mine.

Only thing that mars the ownership experience is dealing with Abarth dealers who know very little about it either, you're lucky to get the right oil put in it at a service, assuming you can convince them that yes it does need an oil change before its 18k service .... rolleyes
Hopefully servicing it at 6k miles with the SS kit on it? Or did it change for the Evo?

ZiggyNiva

1,135 posts

186 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Always been a massive fan of the Punto (well the grande and the MK1 anyway). Had a MK1 as my first car. Still hope to get a GT one day, but most are now trashed ;(.

Anyway I always like any excuse to post this