RE: BMW R1200 RS: PH2 Review

RE: BMW R1200 RS: PH2 Review

Monday 27th April 2015

BMW R1200 RS: PH2 Review

A bike for all seasons and a typically solid performer from BMW



I have a theory about the new R1200RS and its naked sibling, the R1200R. If you are over 40 years old you will love the RS, if you are under the R is much more likely to float your boat. Everyone seems to have an opinion on them and my pub research holds out my theory. The reason? Thanks to their incredibly high level of technology, not to mention the seriously peppy partially water-cooled engine and sharp styling, BMW's boxer models have shed their old man reputation and are now actually pretty cool bikes in their own right.

There is nothing wrong about being seen on a boxer BMW, the dealer network is excellent and if you use a bike day in, day out, then BMWs come with a lot of plus points such as high residual value and easy finance options. So why do over 40s like the RS and under 40s the R? The R says "I still like to be a bit silly" as it doesn't have a fairing where the RS is certainly a bit more of a sensible option for the more practically minded. Which is no bad thing at all.

R or RS, what's the difference?



The bare bones of the R and RS are identical and the RS is basically an R with a half-fairing, different bars and slightly altered geometry. Price-wise there is hardly anything in it and they both offer the same level of accessories and options. The base model RS has ABS as standard and basic traction control, the Sport version adds dynamic traction control, gear shift assist, Pro riding modes and a bit of bling while the Sport SE is the full monty with semi-active suspension and cruise control added to the party along with some more practical extras such as luggage racks. That said, BMW reckons 70 per cent of the UK's sales will be the SE model as virtually nobody buys a base BMW and you can always spec your bike as you wish anyway.

Competent performer
Like the R version PH2 tested recently, the RS is a very hard bike to criticise as, in typical BMW fashion, it does everything extremely well. The riding position feels almost identical to the R aside from the slightly different bars and it is all-day comfortable with a decently padded seat (which has various height options) and low pegs. The dash is the same LCD as on the R so you get a variety of display options if you fancy prioritizing rpm over mpg and although the numbers on the analogue speedo are a little jumbled and small it's a smart cockpit.

The new half fairing has a screen that can be adjusted into two positions by hand and then altered on its mounting points to give two further heights. It's not electronic and at anything over walking pace you can't alter it while on the go due to the wind pressure and overall it wasn't hugely effective. Naturally BMW sells a taller aftermarket item and it doesn't detract from the bike's practicality too much.

Surprisingly sprightly



Testing the bike on the excellent roads around southern Spain the RS proved considerably more nimble than most would expect from a boxer engined BMW. The geometry is certainly more aimed towards stability than agility, and at 236kg the RS is quite a heavy bike, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the bends.

With the wonderful semi-active suspension set to two people mode (adding an imaginary pillion increases the shock's spring preload, sharpening the handling) the RS turns reassuringly into corners and then sits there totally planted thanks to its relaxed attitude. Then, when it comes to powering out, the boxer engine delivers huge drive and the dynamic traction control deals with any slides with minimal interference. I know some riders aren't keen on electronics on bikes, but I would always spec a BMW up to the hilt as its systems are excellent and can be turned off at the push of a button should you wish. That said the gear shift assist is less convincing and I tended to find myself using the clutch on downshifts.

Too competent?
Having spent a day riding it at various speeds and on straight as well as twisty roads, I find it very hard to say anything negative about the RS. It is a brilliant bike that does absolutely everything you ask of it with minimal fuss and maximum efficiency.

However, I can't help but feel it is missing something. It's not a bike that leaves you excited or thrilled, mainly down to the fact it is so ruthlessly efficient. Is this a bad point? Not really, it's more the sign of a thoroughly well sorted machine, but some may crave more excitement. Yes, the RS's engine sounds amazing, the boxer is stacked full of torque, the electronics are outstanding and I really like the look, but it does feel a little too much like a workhorse to me where the R has a bit more of the fun factor about it. That said, I'm still under 40 and really enjoyed the R1200R so maybe I'm just not quite ready to be that sensible yet...


BMW R1200RS
Engine
: 1170cc boxer twin, 8v
Power: 125hp@ 7,750rpm
Torque: 92lb ft@ 6,500rpm
Top speed: 155mph (est)
Weight: 236kg (wet)
MPG: 50mpg (est)
Price: £10,835 (Sport £11,060 / Sport SE £12,915)





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Discussion

garypotter

Original Poster:

1,502 posts

150 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Having ridden sports bikes all my riding life I now own a R100 RT and can appreciate the torque for the boxer engine and the shaft drive for commuting.
Yes i am over 40 yrs old and also own an automatic estate car...

Husaberk

246 posts

207 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I'm 47 and dont feel remotely interested in one of these.

flyingscot68

241 posts

139 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I've got the old R1150 RS and it's a great bike for everyday use. I've surprised a fair few R1's and Blades on it in the twisties :-)

Looking forward to trying this out, sounds like a great all rounder.

black-k1

11,923 posts

229 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I like the idea of the R1200RS but I worry that BMW are a bit too late to the party. 15 years ago a 125bhp sports tourer would have been perfect but things have moved on and other manufacturers (Ducati, KTM) are producing flexible and usable twins for the sports tourer market with 150+bhp. Even if the bike is good, it has already lost the performance battle.

Speed addicted

5,574 posts

227 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I'm 38 and on paper this would be my ideal bike with comfort and power being about right plus the bility to take luggage for big tours.

Sadly it also looks boring.

Quite fancy a Diavel and lots of hassle when touring!

Numeric

1,396 posts

151 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Had the R1200S and it was in many ways a lovely bike - but I always felt it lacked a little sparkle and tried too hard to be practical, so wasn't great at being a fool or a best friend - why do I feel thew same here. If you want a practical yet sharp handling all day comfortable BMW get the RT and it'll be very close on 9/10ths performance. I'm always shocked how good they are to ride, and you can play with the electric screen all day long.

R - Yes, RT - Yes, RS - neither fish nor fowl.

anglophile

65 posts

135 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I'm now 56 and been off bikes for a few years. However...six BMWs in my history, '78 R100RS, '77 R100S, '89 K100RS ABS, '94 R1100RS, '96 R1100RT, '02 R1100S.

I can state that the RS bikes have been the most overall fun and practical. No, they are not as good as something that has less weight, but for traveling long distances with your gear, very hard to beat. I enjoyed all these bikes on both long highways as well as twisty bits in the mountains, all over the Western and up through Colorado here in the U.S.

Of them all, hands-down the R11S was the most fun to ride since it had the frame brace over the swingarm pivots, as well as better aftermarket shock/spring units. Not quite as comfortable but sometimes more "comforting" when going quickly. Still practical though!

Esceptico

7,463 posts

109 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I liked the R 1200 R a lot. Almost went for one but ended up with an S 1000 R. The R 1200 R made more sense but I just fell for the S 1000 R.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I've always liked these BMW twin adventure bikes, even if the whole family has an image problem. Ewan and Charlie on GS bikes, cool. Grown men with full BMW touring textiles, hard panniers and 300 mile tank range on their GS's to get from Rothbury to Seahouses, not cool.

If I was getting a big BMW utility bike, I'd find it hard to get anything other than a K1600, as good as the 1200 bikes are.

SAS Tom

3,403 posts

174 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Mastodon2 said:
I've always liked these BMW twin adventure bikes, even if the whole family has an image problem. Ewan and Charlie on GS bikes, cool. Grown men with full BMW touring textiles, hard panniers and 300 mile tank range on their GS's to get from Rothbury to Seahouses, not cool.

If I was getting a big BMW utility bike, I'd find it hard to get anything other than a K1600, as good as the 1200 bikes are.
Apart from the 1600 is nowhere near as good as the 1200RT. I can see the point of the RS but would still prefer the RT. It was such a nice bike to ride, I actually preferred it to the S1000RR and I'm only 23!

flyingvisit

238 posts

124 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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anglophile said:
I'm now 56 and been off bikes for a few years. However...six BMWs in my history, '78 R100RS, '77 R100S, '89 K100RS ABS, '94 R1100RS, '96 R1100RT, '02 R1100S.

I can state that the RS bikes have been the most overall fun and practical. No, they are not as good as something that has less weight, but for traveling long distances with your gear, very hard to beat. I enjoyed all these bikes on both long highways as well as twisty bits in the mountains, all over the Western and up through Colorado here in the U.S.

Of them all, hands-down the R11S was the most fun to ride since it had the frame brace over the swingarm pivots, as well as better aftermarket shock/spring units. Not quite as comfortable but sometimes more "comforting" when going quickly. Still practical though!
Interesting - I've always fancied a twin, and thought about getting one a few years ago, but went for a K1100RS instead. The reason for this was I'd had a K75 for a looong time with no problems at all, but had heard that the twins suffered from the same problems as the old boxers, namely oil leaks and chocolate gear boxes.

Have yout twins been trouble-free? The K11, which I still have, is an ultra-reliable, fast (for it's age, and in a straight line) dinosaur but totally bland and uninvolving. A twin would be more fun, but would it stand up to the occasional oil change and little else in the way of TLC?

Blackpuddin

16,509 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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At the risk of sounding Luddite not sure I agree with this electronic dumbing-down of motorcycles. I can see why racers would like it – though in the end all these systems do is penalise the more skilful riders – but for a road bike, where's the fun in knowing you can just crank the throttle out of every bend and it won't matter?

Edited by Blackpuddin on Tuesday 28th April 09:40

cpl_payne

563 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Blackpuddin said:
At the risk of sounding Luddite not sure I agree with this electronic dumbing-down of motorcycles. I can see why racers would like it – though in the end all these systems do is penalise the more skilful riders – but for a road bike, where's the fun in knowing you can just crank the throttle out of every bend and it won't matter?

Edited by Blackpuddin on Tuesday 28th April 09:40
I agree, and that's coming from a relative noob to biking. ABS I see the point of and I'd like a (switchable) option on my next bike. Traction control, riding modes - don't care. The only other 'techno' option I'd consider would be the active suspension of some sort.

black-k1

11,923 posts

229 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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cpl_payne said:
Blackpuddin said:
At the risk of sounding Luddite not sure I agree with this electronic dumbing-down of motorcycles. I can see why racers would like it – though in the end all these systems do is penalise the more skilful riders – but for a road bike, where's the fun in knowing you can just crank the throttle out of every bend and it won't matter?

Edited by Blackpuddin on Tuesday 28th April 09:40
I agree, and that's coming from a relative noob to biking. ABS I see the point of and I'd like a (switchable) option on my next bike. Traction control, riding modes - don't care. The only other 'techno' option I'd consider would be the active suspension of some sort.
Riding gods may find that the technology detracts from the fun while riding at the limit but for us mere mortals, the technology will only intervene when we get it wrong and likely need to be saved. There are a few on here who would not have had an accident had technology been available.

cpl_payne

563 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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black-k1 said:
Riding gods may find that the technology detracts from the fun while riding at the limit but for us mere mortals, the technology will only intervene when we get it wrong and likely need to be saved. There are a few on here who would not have had an accident had technology been available.
At the risk of derailing the thread (oops - too late!) I'm not sure I agree. IMHO things like traction control and riding modes are consequences of the arms race that manufacturers participate in to continue selling bikes, with ever growing performance figures dictating the need for increasing assistance to keep it rideable. Sure, on a 130+ bhp bike I might find TC and riding modes necessary, but I see absolutely no need for that on a mid-size motorcycle (unlike ABS which can come in handy even on a 125).

black-k1

11,923 posts

229 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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cpl_payne said:
black-k1 said:
Riding gods may find that the technology detracts from the fun while riding at the limit but for us mere mortals, the technology will only intervene when we get it wrong and likely need to be saved. There are a few on here who would not have had an accident had technology been available.
At the risk of derailing the thread (oops - too late!) I'm not sure I agree. IMHO things like traction control and riding modes are consequences of the arms race that manufacturers participate in to continue selling bikes, with ever growing performance figures dictating the need for increasing assistance to keep it rideable. Sure, on a 130+ bhp bike I might find TC and riding modes necessary, but I see absolutely no need for that on a mid-size motorcycle (unlike ABS which can come in handy even on a 125).
And the advantage (of the likes of TC) is that if it's not needed, it won't be used. The actual cost of adding such options to the manufacture of a new bike which already has things like ABS and fly by wire throttle is peanuts so why not have it?

I would also suggest that in the previously mentioned accidents, there was no where near 130bhp being deployed yet TC would very likely have saved the day.

spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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cpl_payne said:
black-k1 said:
Riding gods may find that the technology detracts from the fun while riding at the limit but for us mere mortals, the technology will only intervene when we get it wrong and likely need to be saved. There are a few on here who would not have had an accident had technology been available.
At the risk of derailing the thread (oops - too late!) I'm not sure I agree. IMHO things like traction control and riding modes are consequences of the arms race that manufacturers participate in to continue selling bikes, with ever growing performance figures dictating the need for increasing assistance to keep it rideable. Sure, on a 130+ bhp bike I might find TC and riding modes necessary, but I see absolutely no need for that on a mid-size motorcycle (unlike ABS which can come in handy even on a 125).
I've used the TC and anti-wheelie control on my 2015 1200GS quite a few times to great effect when making fast road progress. The venerable LC boxer (same as on the RS) does not have superbike levels of power, but 90+ ftlbs torque and when using it to make RAPID progress across country on patchy roads, it is a perfectly judged road motor allied to very useful electronics.

This past weekend, it never lacked for power and happily maintained a good lick of speed leading a group of 6 of us to the Ring and Eifel Mountains - 2 x twin spark Multistradas, a 1098, V4 Tuono, Hayabusa, and the GS. BMW's LC twin is a fantastic engine for anything but track use. It could benefit from an extra 30hp to help high speed Autobahn work when riding over 120mph, but how often is that?

cpl_payne

563 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Perhaps, just because I haven't yet encountered a situation like that doesn't mean it won't happen one day. Regardless of my ideas the progress will not stop and we will only see increase of this in the future.

Vin

67 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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From the discussion and the bike I compare to mine. It would be nice to own a bmw bike. I have not owned one yet. Far too many jap and italian under my belt.
Any new machine is geared up to compare with the others and it would seem brave or foolish if they are to be different. I think it centers more on styling of if you are comftable with the brand at my age 54.
I have a 1998 916 with out any tc, abs etc. A moto guzzi california II 1984 shaft and plodder. I have been to Italy and back, toured the roads over there including the stelvio pass. No back ache or wrist ache for the few k covered. If it can be done on a old bike then these newer models with more toys would be easier but could i see myself sitting on one? im not sure the looks are there yet.
Vinny

dc2rr07

1,238 posts

231 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Speed addicted said:
I'm 38 and on paper this would be my ideal bike with comfort and power being about right plus the bility to take luggage for big tours.

Sadly it also looks boring.

Quite fancy a Diavel and lots of hassle when touring!
You should try a Multistrada if your after a Ducati for touring, still not keen on these and I am well over 40 smile