RE: Aston Martin DBX - crunch time

RE: Aston Martin DBX - crunch time

Friday 15th May 2015

Aston Martin DBX - crunch time

Sports car based crossover or Merc GLE-derived SUV? Aston's Andy Palmer on the brand's new direction



Aston Martin's SUV could be a sight more sporty than we realised. Having initially said the DBX would be built on a separate platform to the forthcoming sports car replacements, boss Andy Palmer is now saying the company is seriously considering building it on a modified version of the aluminium architecture used by the next DB9 (or whatever it'll be called).

"The most obvious configuration is to do a derivative of the next DB platform," he told PistonHeads earlier this week. "There's a fair few changes to move from a low-down car to a high-up car but that's definitely one of the options."

Could 585hp GLE AMG yet underpin fast Aston SUV?
Could 585hp GLE AMG yet underpin fast Aston SUV?
Ever since it showed off the divisive DBX concept at Geneva earlier this year, Aston Martin has always made very clear that this is a crossover rather than an SUV. That's not going to convince many PHers to buy one over a 'low-down car' when it arrives around 2019 but it might end up being a more convincing vehicle that initially thought, especially with lots of lightweight aluminium underpinning it.

Palmer said that any plan to build it on a Mercedes SUV platform - previously mooted as a GL-based Lagonda - is virtually dead. There was some sense to the idea, given Mercedes parent Daimler is also supplying the turbocharged V8 engines and electric gubbins like infotainment systems for next-gen Aston sports cars. "They clearly sit in a very different space to the one we want to go to. They're very much an SUV and we don't want an SUV," Palmer said of cars like the Mercedes GLE. However he did say that there was the possibility of using some parts from the Mercedes bin.

What is looking more likely is that it will be built in the United States rather than Gaydon. Palmer said that Alabama (where Mercedes makes SUVs) is the "obvious choice" for a second plant, so perhaps we shouldn't write off a reskinned Mercedes altogether yet.

Anyway, given this project's primary role is to ensure the company has enough cash to make hairy and mostly uncomplicated sports cars then we should applaud it. On that score, Palmer had a nice line in a speech he gave to a conference in London focusing on future technology earlier this week. "The only autonomous thing I can imagine for an Aston is a button that says 'drift'," he said. It got a big laugh.





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JaguarsportXJR

Original Poster:

235 posts

143 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Erm... No.

JaguarsportXJR

Original Poster:

235 posts

143 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Went to another article. Came back. Looked again.

Still no.

daveco

4,125 posts

207 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Makes sense from a financial perspective but it is a mess visually imo.

Everyone is trying to copy Audi it seems. Borrow extensively from the parts bin, give it a nicer interior/exterior but charge a hefty premium and BOOM! Mucho profit




anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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I really quite like that, not sure why though!

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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MonkeyMatt said:
I really quite like that, not sure why though!
You're looking at the wrong pictures or summat......biggrin

It's a no from me....Simon....that's 4 nos.

SirSquidalot

4,041 posts

165 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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vomit

cobra kid

4,941 posts

240 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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It's wk.

Tickle

4,915 posts

204 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Looks horrific, I suspect it will sell well to those inclined to buy such style over substance tat

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

173 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Not overly similar in shape, probably just the colour scheme but first thing I thought when I saw it was this comparison.






Personally I don't like it.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

163 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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I kind of like it, but without the silver roof nonsense.

However, I can't help thinking that AM would be better building things like this, and the 4 door they did, under the Lagonda brand. Its a well known name, known for luxury cars rather than sports, although this all depends on what exactly they mean by a crossover.

As for building in the US, I'm not sure about this. Mass production can be shipped around the world to follow a set of guidelines to get the same thing stamped out again and again, but I have seen too many high end companies try this way of extending their range and it does not work. It works if you extend down the way Porsche did, keeping the high end stuff well in site and letting the mass market stuff go elsewhere, but I'm not sure AM can do this. You lose too much control when you can't give someone a plan and rely on crafts, as AM do for many things still.

soad

32,891 posts

176 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Horrid. yikes

toon10

6,178 posts

157 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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JaguarsportXJR said:
Erm... No.
Oh come on give it a chance, it might... Ah who am I kidding, it's a no from me.

Davey S2

13,092 posts

254 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Why? Just why?


Oddball RS

1,757 posts

218 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Aston on Bricks?

Strawman

6,463 posts

207 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Could they just stick some really big wheels on an existing DB(?) and save on development costs?



Edited by Strawman on Friday 15th May 14:11

jamespink

1,218 posts

204 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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I saw the steering wheel pic and thought the pad was missing. Floor hinged pedals...All this is nonsense, it's a DB9 on jacked suspension for goodness sake!

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Sorry, but this Marmite is my mate. getmecoat

I think it looks great for what it is. And it will sell with profit in the US, the Middle East and the BRIC countries.

Interestingly, the form factor reminded me of a posh, road-going interpretation of the Local Motors Rally Fighter.




daytona365

1,773 posts

164 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Who's going to spend probably upwards of 40k for a turd like that ?

TartanPaint

2,988 posts

139 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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So, it's like a crossover, but a sort of lower, more car-like version of a crossover. A crossover being a taller version of a car with more ride-height and headroom.

So, it's a lower version of a taller version of a car.



Yeah, me too.

legless

1,692 posts

140 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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There's something very Aixam Mega track about that...