RE: Vauxhall Signum 2.8T: PH Carpool

RE: Vauxhall Signum 2.8T: PH Carpool

Monday 18th May 2015

Vauxhall Signum 2.8T: PH Carpool

"Nobody from the future came back to tell me it was a bad idea" says PHer Adric of his left-field choice



Name: Adric Marsh
Car: Vauxhall Signum 2.8T
Owned since: August 2014
Previously owned: "Mk2 Scirocco GTX; Astra(s); Focus ST170."

Why I bought it:
"Needed something spacious for the family and dogs. Didn't want to go down the usual MPV road, liked the way Clarkson slated the Signum on Top Gear and how it was an utter sales disaster (howmanyleft reckons < 300 ever made). Also, as my friend put it, 'nobody from the future came back to tell me it was a bad idea...'"

And you thought cycling was good for the environment?
And you thought cycling was good for the environment?
What I wish I'd known:
"Always worth remembering that a high mpg is good, and a high litres/100km is bad. Don't compare the two side by side!"

Things I love:
"Mostly liking the look of surprise of other drivers in usual repmobiles when it gets floored - its a Q-car alright. The space and equipment is great for the price - eight years old, < 65k miles, full MoT, all the Elite sat nav and heated leather goodies with change from £2,500. Effortless distance covering, especially good for the kids as there is a fridge in the back for them. People mistaking it for an Astra/Vectra. Calling the garage for a service quote, being surprised when they knew what it was, and even more so when they said 'what diesel engine is it?' When I told them 'petrol 2.8 V6 turbo' they laughed and called me bonkers. Finally, there is a cracking owners' group on Facebook."

Leather, lots of space and - yes - a fridge!
Leather, lots of space and - yes - a fridge!
Things I hate:
"The autobox - never again. Fuel consumption is hilarious in these days of BlueEcoBoostTecDrive nonsense - 25mpg is about right on average. With care you possibly will see 30mpg. I would also like to know what was going on when the first buyer specced it up: 'Let's have north of £20K of Vauxhall barge that has been such a disaster it will surely be discontinued by the weekend. Let's drop in a £500 a year tax bracket engine. Bolt on the optional Speedline alloys (oh yes!) but leave the parking sensor option alone, despite it being longer than a Defender 110.'"

Costs:
"Tax is a known quantity; it is what it is. Insurance is eerily low at £240 fully comp. It's had new tyres, service, air-con regas, etc. New navigation CD (£10) as the roads have been tweaked since 2006. Fridge and loom (factory option previously missing on mine) was about £150. And petrol. Lots and lots and lots of petrol - more so when I put my four-bike roof rack carrier on. Then we see about 21mpg average."

Lots of time (and money) spent here
Lots of time (and money) spent here
Where I've been:
"Mainly on family runs - Scotland (300 miles each way); North Wales, many MTB centres. I have tried the backroad thing with it, but it corners like a Tesco trolley. It's a lover not a fighter."

What next?
"I have toyed with the idea of chipping it, taking it from c. 230hp to 270hp, but for the £300 it turns it into a premium petrol only thirsty monster. Volvo S80 V8s keep looking at me funny. Phaetons with the 'W' engine have a siren-esque attraction I am trying to avoid..."


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chris_speed

Original Poster:

308 posts

263 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Very entertaining read, nice one. An excellent Q car smile

Barchettaman

6,309 posts

132 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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"...the price - eight years old, < 65k miles, full MoT, all the Elite sat nav and heated leather goodies with change from £2,500."

Unbelievable amount of metal for the money. Nice Carpool article, well done.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Now I want one.

Well written.

Quickmoose

4,494 posts

123 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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completely overlooked and under appreciated Vauxhall.
I had a 3.0 V6 TDi, and apsrt form the desperatley cheap engineering quality of it's chassis and the fact that anything worth servicing was hidden deep in the bowels I loved it.
HUGE rear legroom, rear tables, power, fridge and cup holders.
Another one of those cars that was revealed by the use of a 'concept car'.
Shame Vx/Opel didn't continue with the spirit of this car... the market decides though eh.


a 2.8 turbo, what a laugh! thumbup

Raddy

224 posts

167 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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I own the 3.0 V6 diesel in this and while a crude sounding lump while at idle settles down to a nice quiet hum when driving. Very smooth and just keeps pulling and pulling, even more so from I fitted the DTUK box this weekend.
Surprisingly quick and still returning 40mpg without much trying.
Yes they don't handle amazing but for a massive, comfortable very well specced motor I would find it hard to look past on of these again.
I love mine smile

corcoran

536 posts

274 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Always loved the idea of one of these - big, dumb, fully loaded, cheap as depreciated chips. Great article! smile

thelawnet

1,539 posts

155 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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I looked at these in 2007, ended up getting the S80 2.5T instead as it seemed a nicer car for the same money and I suspect that is still true today?

smaybury

87 posts

149 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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I actually always quite liked the very crisp edges on these, too. So boxy from the rear, almost sinister in that respect.

Would.

Butter Face

30,307 posts

160 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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I do love the Signum, if it wasn't for that bloomin' typical Vauxhall dashboard I could have one. Just the dash ruins it for me.

Love the OP's car, that engine must be pretty awesome. Is it the same engine they put in the Vectra VXR?

ST270

663 posts

182 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Good write up - we have a 2.0L Turbo Petrol (170bhp LPT from Saab 9-3) and it drives lovely - 18" wheels with tall profile tyres ensure a smooth ride - mpg slightly higher than the 2.8 - 29 average / manual gearbox. Loads of room for bikes with the seats down and like OP said tons of kit - even down to cornering Xenon lights..

We've done around 18k in ours in 2 years - had the timing chain changed as a matter of course and it hasn't needed anything else. It will be accompanying us to Ben Nevis in June this year loaded up with the cruise control set just so.

They are a bit of left-field choice granted but I think they become better looking with age on the outside with the discreet roof rails and twin exhausts.

Sportidge

1,032 posts

237 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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I seen to remember a quote (Probably Clarkson) about the Signum:

"Vauxhall's answer to the question nobody asked" hehe

But a decent car for the money....

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

187 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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This car's a bit of a guilty pleasure for me. The whole concept sounded like commercial suicide when it launched, and it evidently has few tangible qualities beyond being a functioning car, but yet the craziness of it is appealing. I remember talking to a Vauxhall salesman about one once and even he looked faintly horrified that I'd even consider one. Probably the most appealing non-VXR Vauxhall of the past decade if only for its oddballness.


Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Surely there cant be less than 300, I have seen a few over the years. This was bound to flop. IMO replacing the Vauxhall Omega with a stretched Astra hatchback then loading it with toys etc just does not cut it. Many of the previous Omega customers of high profile never went for this; why would they, end of the day its a stretched hatchback. If they kept this a saloon, it would have been more successful.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Remap it.

Right now!

JustADay

196 posts

126 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Escort Si-130 said:
Surely there cant be less than 300, I have seen a few over the years. This was bound to flop. IMO replacing the Vauxhall Omega with a stretched Astra hatchback then loading it with toys etc just does not cut it. Many of the previous Omega customers of high profile never went for this; why would they, end of the day its a stretched hatchback. If they kept this a saloon, it would have been more successful.
It was based on a Vectra not an Astra wasn't it? So if you wanted the saloon version of this then you bought Vectra?!

I'm not sure that this was intended as an Omega replacement, but equally I'm not really sure what is was intended as! Still, I quite like them for some reason...

JMF894

5,504 posts

155 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Excellent write up! Always got time for fellow phers who like a leftfield choice.

Remap it immediately.............

griffin dai

3,201 posts

149 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Is this the same engine as the Vectra VXR?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Man after my own heart, I've always had a foolish soft spot for cars nobody else wanted. A chap in work had a 3.2 V6 and it sounded really quite nice when he booted it. Replaced it with a VXR8.

adricmarsh

14 posts

107 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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300 made in the flavour of elite v6T. Works out about 2 pre week for the three years they made it. Picture of the rear with fridge...
As for chipping it don't tempt me!!!

adricmarsh

14 posts

107 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Also pretty much same lump as VXR but some slight differences methinks. Some people chuck the VXR cam cover onto the standard 2.8t as its a direct fit but what's the point?