RE: Leaders Hillclimb Challenge - Ford Fiesta ST

RE: Leaders Hillclimb Challenge - Ford Fiesta ST

Wednesday 24th June 2015

Leaders Hillclimb Multi Car Challenge - Fiesta ST

Doune is Al Suttie's local hillclimb - no excuses this time!



The Doune Hillclimb is a great hillclimb for many reasons, not least because it's about a mile from my front door. That means it's a five-minute hop in the car rather than a five-hour schlep to most venues for the British Leaders Championship.

Hillclimbing in a Fiesta ST? Sounds fun!
Hillclimbing in a Fiesta ST? Sounds fun!
Another reason for eagerly anticipating this round of the Primo PLC Leaders Multi Car Hillclimb Challenge, other than a lie-in, was the car we had lined up: the Ford Fiesta ST with Mountune kit.

Ford's official figures say the 215hp Mountune version knocks off 0.2 seconds from the standard car's 6.9 second 0-62mph time. Driving the car on the road, it felt brisker even than that and served to make me and teammate David Finlay all the keener to get cracking up Doune's 1,350-metre course.

Some of that enthusiasm was dampened (ahem) by a very wet start to practice on Saturday morning. Still, I've been up Doune's course more than any other and know where to take it steady. On this occasion, that turned out to be everywhere as the Fiesta struggled for traction off the line and then slithered through every twist and turn.

Doesn't seem to miss an LSD actually
Doesn't seem to miss an LSD actually
With no limited-slip differential like the Vauxhall Corsa VXR we ran at Loton Park the week before, the Fiesta could have been a handful. However, nimble and benign handling allied to a much more linear power delivery than the VXR meant that the first greasy run up the hill was completed without incident.

A very conservative 64.53-second run was largely irrelevant as it was more of a sighting lap. The second practice of Saturday kicked off dry on the start line and through the fearsome Oaktree to Garden Gate. Both of these sections are hemmed in by earthen banks so there is no line of sight through them, which means it's all about knowledge, experience and confidence.

The Ford felt great through here, but as I braked for Junction and emerged into the Meadow, it became clear the dry part of the track had ended and the whole of Meadow was still sodden. Yikes.

A 58.04 felt respectable, but David then went up a few minutes later in 55.89 seconds. So, more work required.

"Hang on mate, how come you're so quick?"
"Hang on mate, how come you're so quick?"
In between runs, we had the pleasure of meeting Brian Fraser, who helps run Blood Bikes Scotland. This is part of the Nationwide Association of Blood Bikes, whose volunteers do an amazing job of supporting the NHS, so any help you can give them is very welcome.

Third practice was completely dry and the sun even put in a late appearance. Pushing harder than I'd ever gone through Oaktree, a dab of brakes for Garden Gate and flat around the Meadow for my first time ever resulted in a 55.93. The only trouble was, David then posted a 54.83.

Sunday practice was dry but cold, so times were a bit off Saturday afternoon's best, but the first competition run saw the sun out. I managed my best start of the weekend with 2.77 seconds to 64-feet and pressed as hard I dared. It felt okay but not as smooth as Saturday's best and I was proved right with a 56.19-second time. David went up in 54.87 seconds and Grant McLellan rocketed up in his Subaru Impreza RA in a personal best, and ultimately class-winning, 53.31 seconds.

Not bad, but no class victory this time
Not bad, but no class victory this time
I was hoping to keep Neil Duncanson behind me in his modified Audi Quattro Coupe as it was only his first visit to Doune. It was a forlorn hope as Neil is a very quick learner and his last run netted a 54.89-second time to best my 56.10. David turned in a 54.32 to emphasis why smooth driving is key to going well at Doune.

I was a bit disappointed at first, but still managed to push the Fiesta within a tenth of my PB, which was set in more powerful and faster Vauxhall Astra VXR. It proves the Fiesta is a superb car for this sort of motorsport thanks to its agility, deft gear shift action, handling and balance. I was also buoyed by a five-minute drive home to a hot shower and cold beer!


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Abarth 695 Biposto

BMW i8

Vauxhall Corsa VXR

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sad61t

Original Poster:

1,100 posts

210 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Sounds like a fun weekend. Did you find out why Dave was that much quicker?

Now all we need is the camera set back a little further so we can see the driver inputs (steering and gear-change) then do a side-by-side comparison similar to the F1 qualifying lap comparisons. Then a voice over on the pauses with "Here you can see Dave gets the power down earlier out of the corner ... and at the next braking point is already a tenth up on me."

Turbobanana

6,266 posts

201 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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sad61t said:
Sounds like a fun weekend. Did you find out why Dave was that much quicker?
Does he weigh less?

David Finlay

3 posts

106 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Turbobanana said:
Does he weigh less?
I'm definitely going with that.

alisdairsuttie

54 posts

181 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Looking at the split times, I'm quicker off the line and from Garden Gate to Junction than David, but he is a demon through the first section around Oaktree. David is also a bit cleaner through the Esses.

Oaktree is all about confidence and experience. David has more experience of Doune than I have and I know I braked where I should have lifted and braked a little more than was necessary for the left-hander at Oaktree. All that meant trying to regain momentum. Simply put, I wasn't as confident as David.

I also carried a little too much speed up East Brae that resulted in wheelspin as I went over the crest at the apex. No excuses, I just over-drove the car in trying to go faster.

Doune is a great hillclimb to compete at and for spectators. Next Doune event is in September and I'm looking forward to it.

Next event for us is Wiscombe, which is a bit like Doune in reverse as the track starts open and then goes into a very technical, enclosed section.

Mark A S

1,836 posts

188 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Doune is a cracking place, night life in the area is pretty fast as well wink

See you at Wiscombe chaps smile

R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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I seen this up at Doune on the Sunday. No offence intended but I thought someone had hired a car from Avis and took it up the hill laugh

What class was it you were competing in? I'm just in the process of getting involved in hillclimbing and I wouldn't have thought they would have put a modified Subaru RA in the same class as your fiesta...might need to rethink my strategy if that's the case.

alisdairsuttie

54 posts

181 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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A2 Class for Production Cars over 2000cc. As the Fiesta has a turbocharger, its 1.6-litre engine is multiplied by 1.4, so it's classed as having a 2.24-litre capacity.

What car are you thinking of enterign R8Steve?

See you at Wiscombe, Mark!

R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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alisdairsuttie said:
A2 Class for Production Cars over 2000cc. As the Fiesta has a turbocharger, its 1.6-litre engine is multiplied by 1.4, so it's classed as having a 2.24-litre capacity.

What car are you thinking of enterign R8Steve?

See you at Wiscombe, Mark!
Thanks Alisdair,

I was aware of the increased capacity multiplier for the turbos but thought your car may have been under Road-Going Series Production Cars and the RA under modified production cars. Think i need to go study my classes some more! That being said, they do seem to differ somewhat from club to club further muddying the waters!

I definitely don't want to end up being uncompetitive in an overs category so that rules out over 2000cc like you were in as that could potentially end up against Skyline GTR/Evo's/etc and that is when costs start getting out of control imo.

Plan is to do a year in the under A1 Road-Going Series Production Cars up to 1400cc and get a 106 rallye or 1.4 XSi or get a Clio 172 cup and do A2 Road-Going Series Production Cars over 1400cc up to 2000cc.

I didn't see anyone that seemed to qualify for A1 up at doune so it looks like it may be the latter. Had i known you were on PH i would have came over for a chat!

alisdairsuttie

54 posts

181 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Classes do vary between championships. We run in the Leader Championship, which classes A1 as up to 2000cc Road Going and A2 as over 2000cc. It can be a bit confusing, but best bet is to chat to anyone with a car similar to yours or the one you fancy competing in. A Clio 172/182 is another good starting point as they are competitive and easy to come by.

Dan Friel

3,630 posts

278 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Nice write up and good to see the Fiesta being used.

I've done a handful events this year, in the lower powered 1.0T version. Fits nicely in the sub 1400 class (popular in the south west) and also the standard 1600 class that runs across the rest of the south.

Lots of entertainment at Wiscombe (see below) and also enjoyed a quick run at Goodwood.





I agree with the Clio recommendation.. or perhaps a Honda S2000??

Edited by Dan Friel on Wednesday 24th June 18:28

alisdairsuttie

54 posts

181 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Quite a few S2000s taking part now and they look very good fun.

Another option is the evergreen MX-5. There's a big following for them as they are cheap and fun for hillclimbing. The guys in Scotland have set a specification they stick to so it's all down to driver skill. It makes for very close competition at a very reasonable price and there are regularly 10 or more taking part, so plenty of advice and knowledge there to help anyone new to the sport.

TheDoggingFather

17,097 posts

206 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Nice little write up there, sounds like a lot of fun thumbup