RE: Ferrari 250 TR : Time For Tea?
Wednesday 15th July 2015
Man wants Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa, man can't afford Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa. A situation most of us can probably relate to. Man builds own Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa? Now we enter the realms of controversy - does anyone have the 'right' to simply build something they couldn't otherwise afford to own? It's led to some horrors - anyone remember the DIY Zonda? - but in this instance we've got something a bit more special. For starters this one is based on a genuine body, underpinned by as faithful a collection of parts as owner and builder Peter Giacobbi could assemble. And he's more than averagely blessed with talent and resources. And pleasingly blase about health and safety when bench testing Ferrari V12s.
Ferrari 250 TR : Time For Tea?
Can a replica ever be faithful to the real thing? Man who built his own 250 Testa Rossa makes his case, in style
In typical Petrolicious style the story is indulgently and beautifully recounted and Peter would appear to know how to pedal his recreated 250 TR. It'd take a hard heart to find anything wrong in this, especially when the finished product is so spectacular.
And how cool does that hand finished aluminium panelwork look?
Watch it here.
[Source: Petrolicious]
Discussion
I find the guys determination and tenacity inspiring.
His creation is nothing short of magnificent.
How many of us have made something ourselves because we either couldn't afford or weren't prepared to pay for a particular item, whether that be a simple household item to a specific tool or a part for a car or item of machinery?
I am not a purist but do accept certain things deserve a sympathetic approach.
At the end of the day this guy is totally open about this car and isn't trying to pass it off as anything other than exactly what it is....................
HIS!
Jimbo
His creation is nothing short of magnificent.
How many of us have made something ourselves because we either couldn't afford or weren't prepared to pay for a particular item, whether that be a simple household item to a specific tool or a part for a car or item of machinery?
I am not a purist but do accept certain things deserve a sympathetic approach.
At the end of the day this guy is totally open about this car and isn't trying to pass it off as anything other than exactly what it is....................
HIS!
Jimbo
As long as a replica isn't passed off as the real thing & it's made with due care and attention and authentic bits, I reckon it's a laudable project.
At least there's a chance of the car being driven properly and not just being an investment object locked away by some immensely rich individual who just wants a lot of return on his cash.
At least there's a chance of the car being driven properly and not just being an investment object locked away by some immensely rich individual who just wants a lot of return on his cash.
If I put-up the cash, anyone could buy a car.
If I put-up the idea and a pile of tools, few could MAKE one
Fantastic thing - it's not really a replica, it's a very unique thing and it's more lovely for it.
p.s. someone talked about a 'line' between a Fiero 355 and thus - that line is a LONG f
king way from this - I mean a LONG fking way.
If I put-up the idea and a pile of tools, few could MAKE one
Fantastic thing - it's not really a replica, it's a very unique thing and it's more lovely for it.
p.s. someone talked about a 'line' between a Fiero 355 and thus - that line is a LONG f
king way from this - I mean a LONG fking way.Wonderful and a brilliant bloke from the video.
"Some people say 'Yeah, it's not a real Ferrari, it's a fake.' Well of course it is, because I can't afford a real one, but I wanted to experience what the old guys experienced, and this is the only way I could afford to do it, and it's my absolute design favourite."
Nails it imo. Who gives a st if it's fake? It's an evocation of the original. No-one complains when someone makes a D-type evocation, with a period XK engine and clone bodywork etc, why be a douchebag because it's a 250TR copy?
"Some people say 'Yeah, it's not a real Ferrari, it's a fake.' Well of course it is, because I can't afford a real one, but I wanted to experience what the old guys experienced, and this is the only way I could afford to do it, and it's my absolute design favourite."
Nails it imo. Who gives a s
t if it's fake? It's an evocation of the original. No-one complains when someone makes a D-type evocation, with a period XK engine and clone bodywork etc, why be a douchebag because it's a 250TR copy?What amazes me about folk who bang on about as-near-as-dammit "replicas" like this is that older cars, especially limited production and/or racing models like the 250 TR, often aren't even the same as the next car that rolled out of the gates.
Myriad small changes, unavailability of parts during the production run, funding crises, rushed changes during a race, original factory modifications, original owner/dealer/importer specification changes, you name it; there are a thousand ways in which one 'production' Ferrari etc. will differ from the next.
Not to mention the "Trigger's broom" aspect of a 50 year old car, especially one that has been subject to one or more restorations which probably involve a lot more creative substitution than this car.
So to get hung up on a few changes in spec (OK, the engine is a biggie, but think of it as an omologato version
) when the provenance is there and the overall is aimed so arrow-straight at the ethos of the original seems a bit churlish. If was now pushed through the Ferrari factory and given a leather-bound "history" in exchange for a big pile of $ then you can be sure some would be falling over themselves to pay $35M for it too.
It'll never be a "Ferrari" but I'd take it over some restored garage queen any day.
Myriad small changes, unavailability of parts during the production run, funding crises, rushed changes during a race, original factory modifications, original owner/dealer/importer specification changes, you name it; there are a thousand ways in which one 'production' Ferrari etc. will differ from the next.
Not to mention the "Trigger's broom" aspect of a 50 year old car, especially one that has been subject to one or more restorations which probably involve a lot more creative substitution than this car.
So to get hung up on a few changes in spec (OK, the engine is a biggie, but think of it as an omologato version
) when the provenance is there and the overall is aimed so arrow-straight at the ethos of the original seems a bit churlish. If was now pushed through the Ferrari factory and given a leather-bound "history" in exchange for a big pile of $ then you can be sure some would be falling over themselves to pay $35M for it too.It'll never be a "Ferrari" but I'd take it over some restored garage queen any day.
It's all Ferrari parts which, as far as I'm concerned, makes it a Ferrari. It may not be a genuine 250TR, but it is a beautiful recreation and a pure embodiment of a man's passion for something he can't afford to buy in its original form, but desires so acutely that he is determined to have the nearest possible thing. Probably about as honest a car as one could ever find.
If the end product is the same (or very close to) then it is a Ferrari 250 to me, just it's one built in 2015 and I'd rather have one built in the 60s. How much that diminishes it is down to personal preference. Something on an MR-2 chassis with bits of plastic on top to make it look as similar as possible to a 355 is obviously not a 355, if it's made to the same spec then it is, much like I guess the VW Beetles they still make in Mexico.
Its rare that I'm jealous of anybody, I don't think its a good emotion to have. but I kinda am in this case. I wish I had the ability to create something so special. I often think I'm a good engineer and in my role I suppose I am. I don't think I would know where to start with something like this though, and that embarrasses me.
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