RE: McLaren 675LT: Review, part one

RE: McLaren 675LT: Review, part one

Wednesday 22nd July 2015

2015 McLaren 675LT | PH Review

McLaren 675LT tested on track; first in a two-part thriller!


Comparing the new McLaren 675LT and the Ferrari 488 GTB is irresistible, if not entirely fair. Out of sync product cycles mean the LT is either McLaren’s response to the 458 Speciale or a gauntlet thrown for the inevitable hardcore version of its new twin-turbo Berlinetta. The 488’s battle, really, is against the 650S.

But come on. We can’t help ourselves. There’s just 5hp separating them after all. And weight saving and track focus are the key aims but, unlike Challenge Stradales, Scuderias and Speciales, the 675LT aims to deliver the additional poise and focus without resorting to the ‘easy’ option of paring it back to the minimalist basics. In theory the LT should have all the creature comforts and daily usability of the 650S, matched with Speciale slaying track ability and charisma too.

Road will follow, Silverstone first!

Out of control
At first glance you could mistake the LT for a 650S with a power bump, some new aero and as much as 100kg stripped out of the already impressive kerb weight. You get the impression that was probably McLaren’s intention too. But, inevitably, things spiralled and a third of the LT’s components are new while the engine shares just 50 per cent of its parts with the 650S.

The McLaren team are quick with adjectives like ‘beautiful’ but, while in the eye of the beholder, that’s not the first word that springs to mind. The additional aero brings fussiness and bling to the previously minimal lines, the new back end a mish-mash of vents, diffuser, exhausts and wing. The overall proportions are more cohesive and resolved than the 12C/P1 mash-up of the 650S though.

Perhaps fussier, but it serves a purpose...

Whatever your personal take you’d be pressed to call it pretty. But, by ‘eck, it looks mean and much, much more purposeful than the 650S. 20mm less ride height at the front and 20mm more rear track doesn’t sound a great deal but at eye level from the front three-quarter it bristles with the aggression and intent of a P1 in its slammed Race setting. This is a good thing.

Driven by the functional necessities of cooling, downforce and weight saving the ‘open’ back end with its full-width rear wing/airbrake and cool circular tipped titanium ‘crossover’ exhaust system looks ace. The heat radiated after a spirited bit of driving will ensure people keep a respectful distance too, the visible ‘blueing’ of the exhaust one clue of how hot things get under there.

Take care of the grams...
Before we talk driving impressions let's indulge a little geekery. Stripping 100kg out of the 650S – already around 70kg lighter than the 488 GTB – is no mean feat and results in some delightfully nerdy detail. You’ll have to forgo air-con if want that full weight saving – optioning it back in costs kilos (11 to be precise) rather than cash – and indulging in the no-cost Nappa leather over standard Alcantara adds another 3.5kg. Even with this level of relative opulence the starting dry weight of 1,230kg means it’ll still substantially undercut the Speciale’s equivalent 1,290kg and 488’s 1,370kg.

... see!

As standard the car gets 1mm thinner windscreen glass worth 3kg, a 3.7kg polycarbonate engine cover saving 1.7kg over the standard glass one and 3kg out of the wiring loom. The wheels are lighter even than those on the P1 and the rear wing/airbrake is twice the size of a 650S’s and contributes to the 40 per cent increase in downforce while weighing less. Even the bolt-in half cage included in the £5,090 Clubsport pack (harnesses and extinguisher also included) is made of titanium and weighs just 4.4kg. Commitment to the lightweight cause!

Will less sound deadening, a more rigidly mounted engine and stiffer spring rates (27 per cent front, 63 per cent rear) harm the consistently impressive on-road refinement of regular 12C and 650S models? While others were on a short local road route finding out we were concentrating on the track driving and will return to this in part two.

P1 for the LT
Biggest influences on the LT’s dynamic behaviour over the 650S would include front suspension based on the ‘concept’ and geometry of the P1, albeit constructed from marginally less fancy materials. With a 13.9:1 rack the steering is faster geared than any other McLaren too, the 650S using 14.6:1 and P1 14.3:1. Forgive us for fixating on steering ratios of late; it’s but one measure of response of course but it does at least offer a sense of the character the engineers are aiming at.

Speed predictably phenomenal

That being ‘pointy’ in the case of the LT. From the first few metres there’s a reassuring weight and response to the 675’s slender, Alcantara trimmed wheel. It’s not light and darty like a Ferrari, just decisive, informative and an immediate clue as to what’s in store as the speeds rise.

Rise they do. Very rapidly. Helmeted up there's less of the Intake Sound Generator’s theatrical soundtrack, relying instead on the instruments and rapidly blurring trackside furniture for sense of speed. Isolated from aural feedback the power delivery feels more linear and less ‘boosty’ than the 650, reflected on the spec sheet by slightly lower revs for peak horsepower and torque. It’s happy revving out but the engine gives its best in the mid- to upper-range and you’ll lean on the torque harder than you would in a Speciale, which instead encourages holding off until you’re using 8,999 of the 9,000 available rpm before shifting up.

Turning both Handling and Powertrain controls to ‘Track’ gets you the fastest available gearchanges via the ‘Inertia Push’ system introduced on the 650S. In this mode upshifts are seamless and pretty much imperceptible beyond the astonishing increase in thrust. If you want a bit of drama ‘Track’ for Handling and ‘Sport’ for Powertrain gives you the Ignition Cut mode for gearshifts, doing what it says on the tin and giving you a little jolt in the back and bang from the exhausts as the unburnt fuel ignites. When even ‘serious’ McLaren folk like chief test driver Chris Goodwin admit this is their preferred setting you understand why most un-Ron like words like ‘fun’ are applied in official descriptions of the car.

McLaren gets more serious and more fun!

Warp factor
Whichever gear you’re in acceleration is relentless and mind-scrambling. Meaning it inevitably feels like your set braking point was many metres back. Whoops. Good job the brakes are suitably epic then, the pedal having superb feel and modulation combined with dependable power. With that ironing board deployed into airbrake mode you can haul it up from huge speed such as into Stowe absolutely dead straight as well, the stability under braking massively confidence inspiring.

As is the turn-in, standard Pirelli P Zero Trofeo tyres a step up from even the Corsas on the 650S in terms of bite. This positive front end is key in convincing you that the 675 is on your side for the corner that follows too, there being just a tad of initial push but so much feel that it can be easily dialled out by trailing the brakes into the turn or – better – left-foot braking to blend the introduction of power through the apex and to the exit.

For all the hooliganism shown in that promo vid the LT encourages a neat and tidy approach, the feedback through the wheel and fixed-back seat sufficient you’d swear you can feel the tread blocks squirming around on the tyres if you’ve been sufficiently committed with entry speed.

In McLaren style traction is controlled not by a mechanical locking diff – electronically controlled or not – but by electronic Brake Steer. You’ll be told this is lighter and actually faster on the track than the Side Slip Control and F1-Trac clutch-based locking diff used by Ferrari but there’s no escaping the fact if you want to play the hooligan you’re better off in a Speciale.

That Alcantara will be getting sweaty...

Playing it straight
There’s subtlety and tactility to the way the LT can be adjusted by playing with the weight distribution through both pedals, but if you want to just cut loose and scribe fat black lines everywhere the McLaren can’t quite shake off its bookish, straight-laced image. A new ‘Dynamic’ ESP mode is a welcome addition and the slacker grip on the leash is welcome if you’re confident in playing with the balance. But it’s not idiot proofed and if the LT does start to rotate you need to be quick to catch it. “It is a slightly edgier, more raw and slightly more harsh car – and that’s intended,” says Chris Goodwin. You can apparently defeat the natural traction with a torque boost and go up through the gears at a standstill while destroying what’s left of your Pirellis – ye gads, we were even told it’ll do doughnuts. But for all these attempts at appealing to the showboaters it’s clear the LT’s focus remains on ruthless dissection of sectors, deltas and laptimes.

This it does. But it’s not inert or aloof in any way. This side of the electrically assisted hyper brigade it’s probably the fastest, sharpest, most accomplished and – most of all – fun supercars of the current crop and, hand on heart, the one we’d pick over the 488 based on this first taste. Can you get a sense of this on the road though? That’s almost the bigger challenge. And one we’ll report back on shortly...


SPECIFICATION | MCLAREN 675LT

Engine: 3,799cc V8 twin-turbo
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch auto (SSG), rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 675@7,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 516@5,500-6,500rpm
0-62mph:  2.9sec
Top speed: 205mph
Weight: 1,230kg (dry; 1,328kg DIN without driver)
MPG: 24.2mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 275g/km
Price: £259,500 (before options, and all 500 are sold sadly!)

   
   
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bigweb

Original Poster:

826 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Sounds like it's a winner!

Mark ANTAR

36 posts

139 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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The rating was 9.33 after 3 votes, and now it's 7.25 with one more vote. Someone must have given it a 1. lol

mikEsprit

827 posts

186 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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I think it is pretty and looks great in proper sports car red.
I've actually seen the 12c in that burnt orange and in silver. This car looks much better in pictures than those did in person.

I can't help buy have an itch when I think of a car about 1/3 its cost being quicker to 60 in ludicrous mode, however.

velocefica

4,640 posts

108 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Shmee ( i don't earn money from youtube or businesses because i'm already from a vulgarly rich family) 150 is getting one of those.

Like anyone gives a flying fk

velocefica

4,640 posts

108 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Shmee ( i don't earn money from youtube or businesses because i'm already from a vulgarly rich family) 150 is getting one of those.

Like anyone gives a flying fk

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Looks good in red I'm surprised to say. Thank god for the return of silver wheels too smile

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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bigweb said:
Sounds like it's a winner!
I guess that explains why they've sold all of them.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

141 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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agree its not pretty, but still a very cool looking beast.

Petrus1983

8,671 posts

162 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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velocefica said:
Shmee ( i don't earn money from youtube or businesses because i'm already from a vulgarly rich family) 150 is getting one of those.

Like anyone gives a flying fk
Envy is a sin you know.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

238 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Fan...tas...tic!!! cloud9 Goes straight into my fantasy garage...

crimbo

1,308 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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It just doesn't look nice, it has pretty parts but as a whole it doesn't know whether to look pretty or hardcore.

Id take a 10 year old Ford gt thank you, then again a spec'd one is probably carrera gt money, mmmmmm mmm

RobGT81

5,229 posts

186 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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I should like these but they still don't appeal like a Porsche or Ferrari do.

D200

514 posts

147 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Petrus1983 said:
velocefica said:
Shmee ( i don't earn money from youtube or businesses because i'm already from a vulgarly rich family) 150 is getting one of those.

Like anyone gives a flying fk
Envy is a sin you know.
It is, but there are much worse sins

GroundEffect

13,835 posts

156 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Want.


AyBee

10,532 posts

202 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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velocefica said:
Shmee ( i don't earn money from youtube or businesses because i'm already from a vulgarly rich family) 150 is getting one of those.

Like anyone gives a flying fk
laugh He's obviously enjoying what he does and I'm fairly sure it pays too so fair play to him - I'd love a 675LT and I'm fairly sure he'll be able to get out of it in a year without losing anything, but...

I watched part of his video on it last night up to the point where he's driving on the track saying it's hugely involving - yet doesn't once touch a paddle to change gear...

exceed

454 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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I'm soo upset I didn't put a deposit down when I had the chance!!

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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I like McLaren's a lot but I find a lot of them just don't look "right" to my eyes. I now realise why, most of the press cars over use the carbon fibre:


cloud9

nzgs

1 posts

105 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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The person who rated it a "1" is probably the same cretin who thinks the Tesla P85 is a better performance car. The 675LT is seriously exciting and I can't think of anything to rival it south of the hypercars.

0-200kph
675LT 7.9s
P85D 16s

The tesla isn't even value for money at its own price point.

Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

154 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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exceed said:
I'm soo upset I didn't put a deposit down when I had the chance!!
Surely Woking's special vehicle operation might be persuaded to glue one together for you? Epic car and very high on the "who needs 2 kidneys" list!

Darsettian

74 posts

115 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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I'm surprised how much more I like the look of the longtail vs the 650S. They look very similar yet somehow the proportions seems 'right' with the LT.

I agree too with another poster's comment about the car looking good in a 'proper' sports car colour (RED). Also looks good in that solid grey, mind...

Above all, just pleased at how Mclaren have been able to bring new and better iterations of the original (excellent) design to market so quickly.