RE: Unsung Heroes: Three-wheelers

RE: Unsung Heroes: Three-wheelers

Thursday 23rd July 2015

Unsung Heroes: Three-wheelers

Has one wheel come off Chris Rees's wagon? No, he just wants to convince us three wheels can be as fun as four



I'm kidding, right - three-wheelers? No self-respecting PHer would be seen dead in a vehicle with one wheel short of the full square. Wobbly, unstable, rut-following jokes, the lot of them - right?

An understandable view, since most people associate three-wheelers with Del Boy, Mr Bean and cartoon-like bubble cars such as the Isetta, Heinkel and Messerschmitt. As a 'bubble' in prices of microcars attests, such machinery does have a big following, but if this is your only experience of trikes, you're really missing a trick.

Think three-wheelers and you'll think Morgan
Think three-wheelers and you'll think Morgan
Fun facts
I'll come clean here and declare I'm a serial three-wheeler owner. My first ever car was a Bond Bug, and I built a Lomax 223 2CV-based kit in the 1980s. So I'm very well aware of the limitations of three-wheelers, but I also know how just much fun they can be.

Consider these facts. Benz's first ever car of 1885 was a three-wheeler. And when Craig Breedlove broke the land speed record, he chose three wheels for his Spirit of America, which became the fastest car in the world in 1964 at 526mph.

Trikes offer light weight, low tax, cheap insurance and the ability to enjoy a motorbike experience on a car licence (with no helmet, I might add). Alternatively, bike licence holders are able to drive a 'car'. But don't three-wheelers fall over? Again I counter: racing Morgans dating from the 1930s are capable of lap times that can, and do, embarrass modern hot hatchbacks.

Reborn Morgan has been a success story
Reborn Morgan has been a success story
Malvern magic
Ah yes, Morgan - the archetypal enthusiast trike. I was quite prepared to be disappointed by the revived Morgan 3-Wheeler before I drove it, but there's something utterly irresistible about it. It screeches, whirrs, putters, cracks and pops its way along, spinning up its single rear wheel on demand, with an utterly blissful front-row view of the undulating suspension.

Well over 1,000 new Morgan trikes have now been sold, even at their elevated price tag of £31,140. That means lots of second-hand examples around at tempting prices. It's possible to find used examples from under £25K but main-dealer examples with ultra-low mileages and plenty of options seem very decent value at around the £28K mark.

Morgans look best in dark colours, like this 995-mile Sports Blue example but plenty have been tempted by factory dress-up and special edition examples, such as the Superdry, of which there's a 511-mile example on offer for under £28K.

Grinnalls and bear it
Morgan isn't the only three-wheeler in the PH classifieds, though. There's a whole world of three-wheelers out there. The UK alone boasts over 20 current manufacturers of trikes, from Morgan replicas like Triking to bike-based cruisers like Casarva.


Or the Grinnall Scorpion. Amazingly, this has been in production for 23 years, during which time well over 250 have been made. The idea of strapping a superbike rear end (in this case, a BMW K series) on to a car-type front end isn't new, but few trikes look as good, or perform as well, as a Grinnall.

There are two up for grabs at the moment. A 2006-registered factory-built example with 8,072 miles on the clock looks solid value at £8,250, while a 2,000-mile example with an R1200C engine is up for £11,995.

Whether you think three-wheelers are one wheel shy of the full set, or one wheel beyond preventing the whole show falling over, there's no doubt they're fascinating and intriguing. And on the right road, an absolute blast.

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spoodler

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2,089 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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For my birthday t'other half hired me a Morgan from the factory at Malvern. We managed to put several hundred miles on it that day taking in dual carriageways, A and B roads and the Brecons and Elan Valley. I've owned loads of cars and bikes, and I've driven loads more but this was the first time in years that one had me giggling from the sheer fun of driving - I was sad to give it back at the end of the day! Maybe if I'd driven my old Bond Bug backwards all the time it may have been as stable?
At some point in the future a Shovelhead engined replica beckons...


The Don of Croy

5,992 posts

159 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Grinnall for me, please.

Just how impractical will it be for daily (summertime) use?

neil-935ql

1,083 posts

106 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Defo not for me it's the look of the things that puts me right off , each to there own though

mikeveal

4,570 posts

250 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Article said:
No self-respecting PHer would be seen dead in a vehicle with one wheel short of the full square.
More like one wheel short of imperfection.

Reliant essentially killed the trike with their designs. They are inherently unstable due to the placement of the engine high above the single wheel axle. But that doesn't need to be the case. R Q Riley explains what is needed nicely. Essentially it's the same theory that you need to apply to a four wheeler, but placement of the weight is a bit more challenging due to the share of the area enclosed by the tyre contact patches.

Get stability right (it's not rocket science) and the trike can offer superb handling and a level of responsiveness that you just don't get with a car. It's all down to weight - or lack of it.

Is a Grinnal usable every day in the summer. Yes, why not?

Here's my Skunk:




hebbhog

48 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Not sure if it counts but it is classified as a 3 wheeler - my 'toy' is a Gilera Fuoco. It does not half get some odd looks, but the fun factor is well up there!!


kambites

67,544 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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mikeveal said:
Here's my Skunk:
Is it actually working for once at the moment? biggrin

KTF

9,803 posts

150 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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mikeveal said:
Here's my Skunk:
Form that angle it looks like half the car is missing smile

Boydie88

3,283 posts

149 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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spoodler said:
For my birthday t'other half hired me a Morgan from the factory at Malvern. We managed to put several hundred miles on it that day taking in dual carriageways, A and B roads and the Brecons and Elan Valley. I've owned loads of cars and bikes, and I've driven loads more but this was the first time in years that one had me giggling from the sheer fun of driving - I was sad to give it back at the end of the day! Maybe if I'd driven my old Bond Bug backwards all the time it may have been as stable?
At some point in the future a Shovelhead engined replica beckons...

Sounds as awesome as I expect this car to be. Always used to be my dream 'one warm Sunday' car, but I think the Nomad has dethroned it.

soad

32,882 posts

176 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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...for Those Who Are Afraid of Motorcycles...The T-Rex is a tadpole-shaped three-wheeler.





Aero Model:

mikeveal

4,570 posts

250 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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kambites said:
mikeveal said:
Here's my Skunk:
Is it actually working for once at the moment? biggrin
Ullo Carl, How's things?
Sadly the Skunk's in the same state as your MGB at the moment. Well almost, I drove it yesterday (as opposed to >10 years ago for the MG) to it's MOT which it failed because the horn has stopped working. Will have it taxed, MOT'd and running again very shortly.
Thank you for asking!! biggrin

sato

580 posts

211 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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spoodler said:
For my birthday t'other half hired me a Morgan from the factory at Malvern. We managed to put several hundred miles on it that day taking in dual carriageways, A and B roads and the Brecons and Elan Valley. I've owned loads of cars and bikes, and I've driven loads more but this was the first time in years that one had me giggling from the sheer fun of driving - I was sad to give it back at the end of the day! Maybe if I'd driven my old Bond Bug backwards all the time it may have been as stable?
At some point in the future a Shovelhead engined replica beckons...

I hired one for the day as well, and also couldnt stop giggling.
I think most of the fun was actually from the ridiculousness of the engine though. While I was constantly aware of the comparative lack of grip from the skinny tires, I simply forgot about it being 3 wheeled as it steered so well.

LordHaveMurci

12,040 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Last time I went to FoS, the Morgan 3 wheeler was the car I most wanted to take home. Didn't help that I got to sit in it & start it up on the Morgan stand!

Keep resisting visiting the Morgan dealer near by, CAN'T AFFORD IT!

spoodler

Original Poster:

2,089 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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sato - Being used to torquey old Harley Evo's I was initially a bit disappointed with the engine, once I realised how happily it would rev it was a much better drive. As for the stability and the steering, well, by the time it went back to the factory I think I'd perfected the art of three wheel drifting. Brilliant to have so much fun without needlessly thrashing it or abusing it.

RenesisEvo

3,606 posts

219 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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spoodler said:
Brilliant to have so much fun without needlessly thrashing it or abusing it.
yes totally agreed, it is such a hoot. And you really don't miss a rear wheel. If anything I found the skinny fronts surprisingly easy to overwhelm, but it was predictable and progressive. My only issue with other 3-wheelers is I find the aesthetics a real challenge; Morgan have succeeded where everyone else seems to have made a bit of a mess of it.

I made a thread about my day in a Morgan 3-Wheeler, I still grin just thinking about it: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


Edited by RenesisEvo on Thursday 23 July 13:39

sato

580 posts

211 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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spoodler said:
sato - Being used to torquey old Harley Evo's I was initially a bit disappointed with the engine, once I realised how happily it would rev it was a much better drive. As for the stability and the steering, well, by the time it went back to the factory I think I'd perfected the art of three wheel drifting. Brilliant to have so much fun without needlessly thrashing it or abusing it.
I just laughed every time I gunned it - for a car driver the engine just seemed unsociablly loud, no matter what the rpm was. I cant quite claim to have drifted it, but I was amazed just how approachable the limits of the handling were.

kambites

67,544 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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mikeveal said:
kambites said:
mikeveal said:
Here's my Skunk:
Is it actually working for once at the moment? biggrin
Ullo Carl, How's things?
Sadly the Skunk's in the same state as your MGB at the moment. Well almost, I drove it yesterday (as opposed to >10 years ago for the MG) to it's MOT which it failed because the horn has stopped working. Will have it taxed, MOT'd and running again very shortly.
Thank you for asking!! biggrin
hehe The MG actually got started the other day; it still vaguely works.

Horn doesn't sound too catastrophic though. At least the transmission is working properly now. smile

spoodler

Original Poster:

2,089 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Glad it wasn't just me that had fun in the "hire car"... biggrin

Evo - just read both your accounts of your day out. Thanks for posting the links, thoroughly enjoyed! I could nearly have written the same account, even drove some of the same roads in similar conditions and presumably at around the same time. We saw the lairy car being brought out when we were awaiting ours and I admit were glad to be offered the green one. Unlike you tho' we didn't get the car back to the factory in plenty of time; embarassingly the road we were to use was closed for road works and the alternative took us to the far side of Malvern. That's not a big town but at commuter run time and no idea of where we were and a helpful local directing us miles out of our way... oh well, the folk at Morgan were very good about it...

Oilchange

8,450 posts

260 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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How can the horn stop working you only have to squeeze it?
confused

kambites said:
mikeveal said:
kambites said:
mikeveal said:
Here's my Skunk:
Is it actually working for once at the moment? biggrin
Ullo Carl, How's things?
Sadly the Skunk's in the same state as your MGB at the moment. Well almost, I drove it yesterday (as opposed to >10 years ago for the MG) to it's MOT which it failed because the horn has stopped working. Will have it taxed, MOT'd and running again very shortly.
Thank you for asking!! biggrin
hehe The MG actually got started the other day; it still vaguely works.

Horn doesn't sound too catastrophic though. At least the transmission is working properly now. smile

furtive

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279 months

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getmecoat

soad

32,882 posts

176 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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No mention of Bond Bug Three-Wheeler? hehe



The Bond Bug was created in an era when designers were entranced with the possibilities of fiberglas. Freed from the costly process required to bend sheetmetal into artful forms, they went wild with the new composite material. The result - a vehicle that looked like an upside down hot tub with windows. The Bug's design was also shaped by contorted British tax laws that made it cheaper to license a vehicle with three wheels than a car with a wheel at each corner. The Bug was available in only one color - Day Glo orange (Pea Green was also offered for a limited time.) Although the flip-up body enticed a few Walter Mitty types, the Bug was a sales disaster (just 2000 were delivered) and drove its manufacturer into bankruptcy. Light weight gave the Bond sprightly performance, but drivers who tried to use it soon learned that the three-wheel design made the car easy to roll over. The Bond now enjoys cult status as a particularly offensive example of 1970's kitsch.