RE: Clio Renaultsport 220 Trophy: Driven

RE: Clio Renaultsport 220 Trophy: Driven

Sunday 26th July 2015

Clio Renaultsport 220 Trophy: Driven

The hallowed Trophy badge returns to the Clio, but is it another Renault hot hatch legend?



Even two years on, there's little better to stoke an Internet hot hatch debate than mention of the Renaultsport Clio 200 EDC. It appears none of the vitriol directed at Renault for such a drastic change of hot hatch course has mellowed since 2013; still the criticisms of it being too dull, rather uninvolving and just a bit plain ring out.

A fast Clio that looks it - yes!
A fast Clio that looks it - yes!
These are the issues the 220 Trophy aims to address, but it's worth noting to start the standard car certainly wasn't and isn't the abject failure many point it out to be. Sure, the powertrain required some work, but underneath that rather dowdy exterior sat a chassis of real quality, some great brakes and clear hints at some latent Renaultsport genius. Problem was these attributes were veiled beneath a level of maturity unknown to previous Renaultsport products.

The spec of the Trophy certainly hints at some significant improvements. No trick components this time, but a lower, stiffer, faster and more responsive fast Clio would seem just the thing to answer the keyboard critics. And the Fiesta ST for that matter...

Swing low
The Trophy gets off to a great start by the way it looks. That drop in ride height (20mm at the front, 10mm at the back) combined with larger 18-inch wheels gives it a much more confident, assertive stance and the Trophy add ons are largely successful. The name probably doesn't need to be emblazoned across the bumper though.

New 18-inch wheels and Michelin Super Sports
New 18-inch wheels and Michelin Super Sports
As for driving, where better to begin than the gearbox? It's probably the biggest bone of contention with current Renaultsport Clio, torpid when left to its own devices and just not exciting enough with manual control. Pleasingly it's much, much improved for Trophy. As an automatic the biggest compliment that can be paid is that it works almost imperceptibly; no longer are you left baffled at its choice of gear. Sport feels entirely intuitive in its more aggressive shift pattern and Race mode is simply really good fun. Yep, the f-word and the new Clio RS. Shorter gear ratios means third is pretty much done by 70, giving ample opportunity to flit up or down. Chasing that newly raised 6,800rpm limiter the warning beep comes, then the warning light, then the 'bap-bap-bap-bap' of the limiter if you've left it too late; pull a (shorter travel) paddle, the exhaust burps in appreciation and it's off again. Brilliant.

It feels quick enough as well, the combination of those gear ratios, a tad more power and some aural drama doing wonders for the Clio's speed, both perceived and actual. It's a more engaging engine to use than before too, with some whooshes, pops and bangs redolent of the Megane much more noticeable. It will never be remembered as one of the great hot hatch engines in a way the old 2.0-litre will but certainly it's a step in the right direction.

Rear 10mm lower with springs 40 per cent stiffer
Rear 10mm lower with springs 40 per cent stiffer
Sweet chariot?
Megane similarities are evident elsewhere too, which is mostly a good thing. With firmer dampers and 40 per cent stiffer rear springs that almost languid gait of the standard 200 is gone, replaced by a surprising level of tautness. It's not Fiesta ST stiff and the damping has the quality and resolve we would expect from Renaultsport, but the standard car's comfort has been compromised. The pay-off though is a Renaultsport Clio that just feels naughtier than before; more alive, more agile and more willing to entertain.

A 10 per cent reduction in steering rack ratio and Michelin Pilot Super Sports - in place of Dunlop Sport Maxxes on a Cup-spec 200 - give the Trophy more conviction on turn-in. Understeer can be trimmed accurately with a closed throttle and being bolder will see the Trophy shakin' its ass (wrong Renault but you get the point) as you please. The key is that while the standard car would do this it required a great deal of effort; the Trophy, encouragingly, feels much happier playing to your childish side.

As much fun as a Fiesta? The Clio still lacks the Ford frenetic nature but the noticeable gains in enjoyment and speed would make a twin-test far closer than previously. The superb Peugeot 208 GTI 30th can not be discounted either. What's happy to report is that a comparison would now feel like a genuine three-way encounter in a way it never has previously.

Good enough for hot hatch, er, trophy?
Good enough for hot hatch, er, trophy?
Job jobbed?
Having said that, the Clio does still have a few issues that hold it back. The first is, despite the marked improvement, that gearbox. Renault describes the Trophy as a car "unashamedly targeted at track day enthusiasts", yet it won't even offer them a manual gearbox? Even when there is a good one utilised in the mechanically very similar Juke? That the Trophy feels more like a traditional Renaultsport product in the way it drives make the missing gear stick all the more frustrating. So here's an idea: the manual as the cost option. It doesn't offend the existing customers and it may well draw back a few purists. Controversial perhaps, but at least it would ensure the choice is there.

Finally, while speaking of cost, the Clio's price may hold it back. Its basic list of £21,780 doesn't look that unreasonable in the context of the Peugeot (ignore the £25K as tested price; £3K is seats and paint) but that pesky Ford does make it look pricey. A top-of-the-range ST3 with the Mountune upgrade is still £1,500 less than the Renault. Hmm. Perhaps that's an unfair point to end on given the Trophy's considerable and tangible improvements over the standard 200 but it's a significant one. We'll hope to establish how close the two are, and whether that premium can be justified, in a comparison soon. For now though let's be content that there's a fast Clio worthy of the Renaultsport badge again!


CLIO RENAULTSPORT 220 TROPHY EDC
Engine: 1,618cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed dual-clutch auto, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 220@6,050rpm
Torque (lb ft):207@2,000rpm
0-62mph:  6.6sec
Top speed: 146mph
Weight: 1,204kg
MPG: 47.9mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 135g/km
Price: £21,780 [£24,975 as tested comprising of £1,600 for Trophy branded, high-backed, heated front seats in Renaultsport dark-carbon leather upholstery, £1,300 for Renault i.d matt paint, Frost White (with gloss black roof and rear spoiler) and £295 for Renaultsport Monitor v2]





[Photos: Ben Lowden]

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grenpayne

Original Poster:

1,988 posts

162 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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A step in the right direction but still not even where it should have been back in 2013. Shame really and as a RS Clio (172) driver it saddens me they still haven't got it right.

kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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We've got to the point where a Clio comes with 18 inch wheels as standard? hehe

A manual gearbox as a cost option would be an interesting idea but I doubt many people would specify it. It seems to me that the market for this class of hot hatch is rapidly following the bigger cars down the "fast is more important than fun" route. Traditionally Renault have been very good at avoiding that temptation but it seems those days are gone.

Here's hoping for an RS Twingo which is targeted more at having fun at lowish speeds. smile

Edited by kambites on Sunday 26th July 11:17

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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No thanks - does anyone even buy these? I haven't seen any on the roads here in Aberdeen, an area where a lot of the younger folk are earning decent wages and drive nice/new cars. I'm a fairly observant car nerd so I can pick out the differences between this and the diesel whilst driving along, so I'm certain they aren't going under the radar.

However, the Fiesta ST is everywhere, even my girlfriend has one, she loves it. Renault have dropped the ball with this one IMO.

justanother5tar

1,314 posts

125 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Great. But it still looks fking horrid inside and out.

Shame really, cause I've liked the look of every previous RS Clio.

exigepete

1,005 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Bet I would still have more fun in my old 172 Cup. Suspension spot on for B road blasts, and a manual! Driven lots of Clio variants and replaced my 172 Cup with a 200 Cup. Good but not as good as the 172 Cup. I shall not be getting one of these.

(steven)

448 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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So the Mclaren-Honda of the hot hatch world then. Not as bad as it was at the start of the season but still pretty much last.

You have to feel for Renault here. They are seemingly losing market share to more refined, more “technology driven” brands, so they have moved the product to try and compete and in doing so, have lost the one thing they were good at.

You also have to question the pricing. I’m not sure Renault have built up their reliability reputation in the UK enough to be able to charge more than Ford.

loose cannon

6,030 posts

241 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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And one day they will listen and put a manual box in the dam thing confused
The next generation megane rs will be the same ! They won't listen and that won't have a manual box either
It won't even be on my radar if that's the case but hey ho you keep up the good work and undo all that reputation
You have built up ! you no the only morsel people liked about Renault rs products is the the way they drive that special feeling that no one else offerd, lose that and you lose the rs customers IMO, then your back to just selling to young girls and mums, the rest will run for the Honda and ford hills for there slice of hot hatch thrills

philmots

4,631 posts

260 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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I've had a 172 Cup and 197 Cup so am keen on Renault Sports.

I do like it, I think the reasons for it not selling are price and lack of decent deals. I think a lot of the Fiesta ST's you see about are on one of the silly cheap leases.

If I was buying a new one I'd quite like the gearbox, it'd only come a concern to me buying used and out of warranty.


PunterCam

1,072 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Load of ste.

Looks completely dull, has a crap engine and a crap gearbox. Why would anyone ever consider one? It's so anti-hot hatch.

And can we please stop using the word "mature" to describe a st car?

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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What is the point of putting an MPG so way out on the stats? I know these numbers are usually not close to actual hit 47.9mpg average? What will you actually get, literally half of that?

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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kambites said:
We've got to the point where a Clio comes with 18 inch wheels as standard? hehe
Good point, but have you seen how FAT those seats look also?

Need to put skinny bucket seats on it and Jap 16 inch forged wheels and remove the air con and put the battery in the boot biggrin

The main thing it seems they sorted out the gearbox. Which is not as easy to fix as the things I suggested above.

I think this is a proper hot hatch again ready for owners to take it to the next level.




Edited by Gandahar on Sunday 26th July 17:02

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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PunterCam said:
Load of ste.

Looks completely dull
All Renault hot hatches look dull. Not lookers are they ! That's missing the point.

justanother5tar

1,314 posts

125 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Gandahar said:
The main thing it seems they sorted out the gearbox. Which is not as easy to fix as the things I suggested above.

I think this is a proper hot hatch again ready for owners to take it to the next level.
Its not a proper hot hatch to me, it needs a manual gearbox.

I can accept maybe the bigger 'hyper-hatches' having DSG/auto gearboxes. But a little hot hatch needs sharp steering, great handling and a manual gearbox IMO.


anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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I really had my hopes up for this, but they were killed the moment I read:

"It will never be remembered as one of the great hot hatch engines in a way the old 2.0-litre will but certainly it's a step in the right direction."

Then it just got worse from that point on.

Oh well, I'll hang on to the 182 for a while yet then smile

HairyMaclary

3,667 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Its got the renault dildo wheels!

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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justanother5tar said:
Gandahar said:
The main thing it seems they sorted out the gearbox. Which is not as easy to fix as the things I suggested above.

I think this is a proper hot hatch again ready for owners to take it to the next level.
Its not a proper hot hatch to me, it needs a manual gearbox.

I can accept maybe the bigger 'hyper-hatches' having DSG/auto gearboxes. But a little hot hatch needs sharp steering, great handling and a manual gearbox IMO.
You forgot the NA engine complaint.

This is 2015.



anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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The paddle shift gearbox doesn't bother me so much, as long as it's very quick, doesn't destroy the sense of speed (as most DSG boxes in smaller cars seem to) and does what you want when you want.

justanother5tar

1,314 posts

125 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Gandahar said:
justanother5tar said:
Gandahar said:
The main thing it seems they sorted out the gearbox. Which is not as easy to fix as the things I suggested above.

I think this is a proper hot hatch again ready for owners to take it to the next level.
Its not a proper hot hatch to me, it needs a manual gearbox.

I can accept maybe the bigger 'hyper-hatches' having DSG/auto gearboxes. But a little hot hatch needs sharp steering, great handling and a manual gearbox IMO.
You forgot the NA engine complaint.

This is 2015.
Not bothered about N/A. Manual cogs is a must in the type of car for me, and obviously many others.

phurry

32 posts

186 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Sat in this at Goodwood this year and thought it looked fantastic. Loved the white matt paint and new look.
Id have one as a daily if any good deals came up. Tho i still have a 172 cup incase i need some raw driving fun.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

127 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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My issue with buying one of these would be that the dealer network has always been terrible, and now there are hardly any dealersleft. Coupled with the now extreme rarity of the car, finding a dealer that would have the first clue how to care for it would be almost impossible.

I genuinely believe this platform is the last Clio Renaultsport we will see in the UK.