RE: Motorsport on Monday: 27/07/2015

RE: Motorsport on Monday: 27/07/2015

Monday 27th July 2015

Motorsport on Monday: 27/07/2015

Hungarorinteresting!



Can you remember a more bizarre race performance by a reigning World Champion than that? Lewis Hamilton, so imperious in qualifying with a half-second advantage over Nico, knew before the race was over how fumblesome he'd been; apologising to the team so publically and so humbly is a rarity in ego-laden F1, but it was the least he could do after dropping to fourth from the start (why can't they start well?), going off the track and blaming Nico, hitting people, being given drive-through penalties for doing so, the lot.

If only they knew what was to follow...
If only they knew what was to follow...
Totally bizarre, Maldonado-esque and beyond uncharacteristic. "It was one of the worst races I think I've had," he said. You bet. "A day like today, when you make mistakes and it affects the team, it hurts." You can say that again. By rights, he should have seen his World Championship lead narrowed, or extinguished entirely... but for other drivers seemingly intent on taking inspiration from the Euro F3 boys and also driving into one another. Cue Ricciardo slicing into the side of Rosberg's rear tyre, hobbling him to a long drive back to the pits and a plunge down the order.

Hamilton, after finally getting it together at the end of the race, finally passed enough cars to finish sixth, with Nico down in eighth (just behind Grosjean's Lotus). And so Lewis extended his lead at the top of the table and stole into the lead of the luckiest sportsman on the planet title 2015, too. After that performance, such a result wasn't deserved but, after doing his best to throw it away all race, he gleefully accepted the champions' knack of taking your chances.

As for the rest of it, well, it's hard to know what to pick out. There was so much going on, not least the storming Ferraris blasting into the lead and Vettel going on to win and deservedly pay tribute to his almost-certain future teammate, Jules Bianchi. The drivers did this before the race began too, honouring their popular and talented contemporary.

Poignant victory for Vettel
Poignant victory for Vettel
It was on for a Ferrari one-two until Kimi once again showed where Lewis has stolen all his luck from. This left young Daniil Kvyat to gleefully take his first podium, ahead of an unlikely Daniel Ricciardo, who not only hit both the Mercs but also seemed intent on trying to hit everything with a Mercedes engine in. Anything to help neutralise that Renault power deficit...

Oh, and props to Pastor Maldonado, who did the hat-trick of penalties in beautifully error-strewn performance that showed a focus on calamity perhaps unsurpassed in modern F1. Lewis, you tried, but you were still beaten by the rich man from Venezuela. Let's try to not try better next time though.

McLaren scores points!


Hungary isn't a power circuit, which will see yet more pressure on the shoulders of Renault engine chiefs after Red Bull's (admittedly fortuitous) two-three. But it wasn't just the Renault-engined teams benefitting: McLaren also grabbed a most unexpected double points finish, with Alonso actually in fifth place.

He was only five seconds behind the Toro Rosso of Max Verstappen and, with JB also finishing in ninth, now leaves McLaren just five points behind the Sauber-Ferraris in the constructors championship. Hardly cusp-of-world-domination stuff, but a very welcome turnaround compared to the abject performances thus far this season.

Let's hope it's enough to stop Alonso looking elsewhere. Ahead of the weekend, he admitted F1 was a bit rubbish at the moment: if you have a slow car at the start of the season, the current regulations doom you to being slow for the whole year. F1 cars generally aren't very fast either; while he said he's committed to the McLaren 'project' for three years, he also likes the sound of other forms of racing.

Such as? Le Mans came up again. Alonso for WEC? Who knows. Let's just hope Hungary's convinced him not to push for a move just yet. He's still one of F1's quickest drivers. Fingers crossed McLaren delivers the car to complement this sooner rather than later.

M40 at rush hour...
M40 at rush hour...
Spa 24: on your MarcVDS
BMW won its first Spa 24 Hours race since 1998 this weekend, with the MarcVDS Z4 of Nicky Catsburg, Markus Palttala and Lucas Luhr triumphing ahead of the new Audi R8 LMS of stalwart teams WRT and Phoenix respectively.

It was a pretty broken-up race through, with 10 safety cars, torrential rain in the early hours of the race and a weekend generally as autumnal as it was back here in the UK. It was particularly gloomy for the Bentley boys, who were glumly packing up the M-Sport trucks well before the end of the race after a double retirement.

It wasn't a classic but BMW won't mind. Wins still mean a lot to the Munich firm and, besides, the Spa 24 Hours is still a classic event. You can only imagine the Belgian beer-fuelled headaches of the MarcVDS crew today.



[Images sources: LAT, 24HoursofSpa]

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HorneyMX5

Original Poster:

5,309 posts

151 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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"Daniel Ricciardo, who not only hit both the Mercs but also seemed intent on trying to hit everything with a Mercedes engine in."

Really? I think you'll find he was more of a magnet for other peoples mistakes. Hamilton understeered into him and Nico slammed the door shut before remembering to put his glasses on.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

226 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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One of the most entertaining F1 races in recent memory. If they were all like that, I'd weep with delight.

It's VERY rare these days, that an incident in a GP gets me out of my seat shouting at the TV, but it happened at least twice yesterday. Cracking stuff.

Beautiful and emotional tribute of the minute's silence at the start. I will admit to being a little choked myself. #JB17

Roma101

838 posts

148 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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To be fair, that was a pretty entertaining watch. As was the interview with Horner and Bernie afterwards (BBC).

I echo the comments above about Ricciardo. I wouldn't blame him at all.

5harp3y

1,943 posts

200 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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HorneyMX5 said:
"Daniel Ricciardo, who not only hit both the Mercs but also seemed intent on trying to hit everything with a Mercedes engine in."

Really? I think you'll find he was more of a magnet for other peoples mistakes. Hamilton understeered into him and Nico slammed the door shut before remembering to put his glasses on.
This!

Mercedes looked seriously mediocre in traffic and Ricciardo and Kyvat drove the wheels off those RedBulls.

Such a shame for Kimi, he looked quick and up for it. Most entertaining race for a while.

SturdyHSV

10,099 posts

168 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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HorneyMX5 said:
"Daniel Ricciardo, who not only hit both the Mercs but also seemed intent on trying to hit everything with a Mercedes engine in."

Really? I think you'll find he was more of a magnet for other peoples mistakes. Hamilton understeered into him and Nico slammed the door shut before remembering to put his glasses on.
Agreed, can't see how either Mercedes incident could be attributed to Ricciardo.

DeanHelix

135 posts

156 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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Best race in ages.

At least Ricciardo went for it. Instead of holding station for a comfy 3rd, he tried a Kobayashi-style banzai move on Rosberg to try taking 2nd and take the fight to Vettel - which Rosberg was impressively failing to do. Shame Rosberg swept across the front of him to take them both out of contention.

And 3 penalties in one race for Maldonado. It'd be funny if he weren't so dangerous. Lotus, get rid of him, you don't need his money that much do you?

Turbobanana

6,292 posts

202 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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Clearly Vettel was so unexpectedly fast that the snapper who took the lead photo missed focussing on him completely.

delta0

2,355 posts

107 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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That XKR looked great.

McAndy

12,486 posts

178 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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Yep, I'll add my voice to the defence of Ricciardo as I can't stand ill-informed, tabloidesque reporting. Poor form. Well done Red Bull and McLaren; opportunities well taken.

dinkel

26,959 posts

259 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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P4 for a 17 year old. Wow. Just wow.

richardaucock

204 posts

164 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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McAndy said:
Yep, I'll add my voice to the defence of Ricciardo as I can't stand ill-informed, tabloidesque reporting. Poor form. Well done Red Bull and McLaren; opportunities well taken.
Fair point, but it was tongue in cheek! He got stuck in, which was great, but as with many others, quite a few of the moves did involve contact, with Mercs...

McAndy

12,486 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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richardaucock said:
...but it was tongue in cheek!
Fair dos. thumbup

richardaucock said:
...but as with many others, quite a few of the moves did involve contact, with Mercs...
Which weren't his fault, unlike many of the others. wink

richardaucock

204 posts

164 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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McAndy said:
Which weren't his fault, unlike many of the others. wink
There was certainly a lot of that during the race! I'm all for elbows-out racing, but marbles-out driving, Maldonado-style - well... ;-)

McAndy

12,486 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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richardaucock said:
There was certainly a lot of that during the race! I'm all for elbows-out racing, but marbles-out driving, Maldonado-style - well... ;-)
I'm not sure there are many who can compete with Maldonado's "style"! laugh

PunterCam

1,073 posts

196 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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McAndy said:
richardaucock said:
...but it was tongue in cheek!
Fair dos. thumbup

richardaucock said:
...but as with many others, quite a few of the moves did involve contact, with Mercs...
Which weren't his fault, unlike many of the others. wink
He hit Rosberg, not the other way around. It was the equivalent of trying to pass down the inside under braking, but only just getting your nose alongside and clipping the guy as they turned in. Rosberg was just taking the racing line, and was well ahead.

smilo996

2,798 posts

171 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Nearly did not watch it because of waning enthusiasm again but Hungary has often provided entertaining races and this was one of the best in many year.

Although it was closer to banger racing than F1. Amazing to see Ferrari mug Merc at the start and Kimi not give way whilst overtaking round the outside. Does this bode well for the rest of the season where launch control dirver aides are being dropped, certainly hope so.

Fantastic race. if Ferrari pulled their fingers out each weekend like this, Bernie slipped Williams a few quid to get in the wind tunnel and someone slapped Renault then we would have much more of this. Let's hope so.

Hamilton must be astonished he stretched his lead.

Ahonen

5,017 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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A brilliant race at the weekend and finally a deserved victory for VDS. Catsburg was amazingly fast throughout and his push for the lead after the sister car retired on Sunday morning was little short of stunning. A race well won - I'm so happy for them. Brilliant.

Edited by Ahonen on Tuesday 28th July 21:27

canucklehead

416 posts

147 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Ref Ricciardo's race - the incident with Lewis was def Lewis' fault, but the one with Rosberg only occurred because Ricciardo's overtaking attempt was hopelessly optimistic - there was no way he was ever going to make that corner with so much speed on - I don't think you can reasonably blame Nico for it - was he supposed to just go off track to accommodate the unguided missile that was Ricciardo's car going through (you couldn't call it going round) the corner? Was surprised that Daniel didn't pick up a penalty for that one, particularly after Hamilton was dealt with rather severely for his incident with Ricciardo - a drivethrough for an incident where he gained no advantage and Daniel was actually able to go quicker with the body damage? (note to Red Bull - maybe rethink having that bit of bodywork there - it doesn't seem to be needed or beneficial!) seemed harsh. a 5sec added on, sure, but the drivethrough was a bit heavy.

Edited by canucklehead on Tuesday 28th July 21:51