RE: Mercedes W124 Cabriolet: Guilty Pleasures

RE: Mercedes W124 Cabriolet: Guilty Pleasures

Wednesday 5th August 2015

Mercedes W124 Cabriolet: Guilty Pleasures

It's impossible to do this one without summoning the ghost of Frankie Howerd...



Titter ye not, but the motor industry has long loved to talk about how rigid it can make things. Pretty much no new car gets introduced without its manufacturer boasting about how much stiffer it is than it's predecessor.

Stolid yet handsome, it's an old-school Benz
Stolid yet handsome, it's an old-school Benz
And torsional rigidity is undoubtedly a good thing. Having a strong structure reduces the influence of unwanted factors the suspension can't control, it makes a car feel tighter and more accurate, safer and sturdier. It's something that even the least attentive drivers will immediately spot the lack of, feeling how much softer and wobblier the structure of most cabriolets are within a few yards of poor quality road surface. So what hope was there in the 1980s and 90s, when even cars with roofs often had the resistance to twisting forces of damp cardboard boxes?

Soft Rock
I know, I'm getting my excuses in early. Because although I'd love to be able to say that the W124 Mercedes E-Class cabriolet* that I lust after was an exception to this rule of inflexibility, I can't. If anything, it's practically the exemplar, a car that - to get the knob gags out of the way - is positively flaccid in its lack of rigidity. One that behaves like a bouncy castle if asked to digest a rough road at anything other than a very gentle pace. In short, the exact opposite of the sort of taut, solid open-topped sportscar that should sit higher on my list.

Yet, having owned every other W124 body variant at one time or another, my desire for a cabrio is almost overwhelming. Just look at its profile: did Merc's design mastermind Bruno Sacco ever sign-off on a finer looking car? You can practically see the lack of structural strength in the long, low shape - especially as the folded roof is entirely stowed beneath the rear deck, unlike most of its pram-like contemporaries that left theirs on display. Like its Coupe sister the cabrio sits on a shorter wheelbase than saloon or estate, but there's still a huge amount of space behind the door, with the front and rear linked by nothing more than sills, floorpan and some modest under-body reinforcement.

Fun in the sun for four real sized people
Fun in the sun for four real sized people
But this was clearly deliberate. The W124 comes from the era when creating even moderately sturdy open-topped cars meant either limiting them to two seats or using some horrible looking T-bar roof. Somebody at Merc clearly knew all of this, and decided to do the opposite anyway.

Erectile Dysfunction
Drive one and the lack of rigidity becomes a strange part of the W124 cabrio's appeal; a flaw that you quickly learn to adapt to and - as far as you can - to drive around. Even a steel-roofed E-Class from the period isn't the most precise driving tool, and the cabriolet's trembling harmonics makes it one of those cars best sampled at the sort of pace normally reserved for piloting nervous grandmothers to doctor's appointments. Fortunately this is something that both the 320 six-cylinder and 220 four-cylinder variants are happiest when asked to deliver, especially with the supremely slushy autobox that almost all cabrios have. Besides the cabin is so nice, the reflections in shop windows so appealing that you really don't mind trundling at sub-Proton pace.

Proof that proper style never really dates
Proof that proper style never really dates
It's a very sociable way to mooch about, too. There are plenty of two-occupant roadsters from the same period: Merc's own R107 and R129 SLs good examples. But there were very few four-seaters; the Audi Cabriolet was a two-plus-two at best, the BMW E30 cabrio tiny by comparison. And let's just pretend that the Vauxhall Astra and Ford Escort cabrios didn't exist.

Clearly I'm not alone in my love for this unlikely icon, a truth borne out by the way values have steadily as those of the far sturdier Coupe have slid. Even leggy four-cylinder cabrios are starting around the £10,000 mark these days, and if you've got a decent low mileage E320 Sportline in a decent colour you can pretty much name your price. The fact supply seems to have dried up in recent years suggests its also one of those car that is being hoarded. I should have bought one when I had the chance; I'd have a leathery suntan and a very broad grin.

*For the Merc pedants we know the cabrio is an A124, not a W124 but we've stuck with the generally accepted terminology for the purposes of this story - Ed.


Like what you see? Photos from a car advertised in the classifieds...

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Turbobanana

Original Poster:

6,268 posts

201 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Lovely cars, and don't worry about scuttle / body shake - they all do that, sir.

15 years into Saab 900 Convertible ownership and I've never considered it to be a problem. Would I track day it? No, of course not - that's not what it was built for, but as an everyday driving tool the benefits far outweigh the deficiencies.

pSyCoSiS

3,595 posts

205 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Beautiful cars. Built properly. Get better with age.

E320 Sportline in Almadine Red with Mushroom Leather for me please!

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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If you have a fetish for scuttle shake and four-seat open air motoring .....


X5TUU

11,939 posts

187 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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with the lid and windows down, the shape is just sublime ... not so much with the lid up though

Strawman

6,463 posts

207 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Turbobanana said:
Lovely cars, and don't worry about scuttle / body shake - they all do that, sir.

15 years into Saab 900 Convertible ownership
A notable omission from the list of four seat convertibles available in the UK, by the time the NG 900 was launched scuttle shake was drastically reduced.

sidesauce

2,476 posts

218 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Much I admire these, I could bring myself to own or drive one - I'd feel like I was some kind of Nigerian con-artist (not everyone will understand that)...!

Quickmoose

4,494 posts

123 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Not a Guilty Pleasure really.

It's lovely.
Style much missed these days...

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Quickmoose said:
Not a Guilty Pleasure really.

It's lovely.
Style much missed these days...
yes

Turbobanana

Original Poster:

6,268 posts

201 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Strawman said:
Turbobanana said:
Lovely cars, and don't worry about scuttle / body shake - they all do that, sir.

15 years into Saab 900 Convertible ownership
A notable omission from the list of four seat convertibles available in the UK, by the time the NG 900 was launched scuttle shake was drastically reduced.
...as was character, reliability and handling finesse, sadly. Apologies if you own one, but they weren't a patch on the old ones.

Mercedes seem to have mastered the art of the big, wafty 4-seat convertible though, mind you they started quite early in the 20th Century.

burningdinos

122 posts

121 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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The W124 coupé is one of my all-time favourite Merc shapes. The cabrio is lovely too but there's something about pillarless coupés ...

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Only recently found out Merc also did a hardtop for these, don't think I've see one in use.


Strawman

6,463 posts

207 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Turbobanana said:
...as was character, reliability and handling finesse, sadly. Apologies if you own one, but they weren't a patch on the old ones.
Not owned one but they are all right as a car to drive, yes they lacked the double wishbone front suspension set up, so I agree the handling wasn't as good. Anyway I just wanted to comment that of 4 seat convertibles available back then SAAB is the most noticeable omission, in the UK they must have sold nearly as many convertibles as hard tops at one point.

Turbobanana

Original Poster:

6,268 posts

201 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Strawman said:
Turbobanana said:
...as was character, reliability and handling finesse, sadly. Apologies if you own one, but they weren't a patch on the old ones.
Anyway I just wanted to comment that of 4 seat convertibles available back then SAAB is the most noticeable omission, in the UK they must have sold nearly as many convertibles as hard tops at one point.
UK was the best market apart from North America, apparently. Weird, given our "challenging" weather wink

V8 TEJ

375 posts

161 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Article compares the BMW E30 as a competitor but this being a 1995 car would be more comparable to an E36 I would have thought?

I know the W124 was launched in 1985 but the convertible was not available until late 1992. By which time the E36 was launched.

Also a W124 is a BMW E34 rival more than E30 smile

Looks like I can do pedantic biggrin

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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All W124s are awesome cars. Despite always having very driver orientated cars,mine has seriously got under my skin.

chris56

556 posts

179 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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I have had one since new - one of the last produced in 1996 - an E320 Sportline with the 5 Speed Auto.
Having owned a few convertibles, I can think of many which are much worse in terms of scuttle shake. In fact, I would rate the W124 as very good for the time of production.
It is also a car that can surprise when driven in a spirited fashion particularly with the Sportline suspension properly setup, yes the recirculating ball steering does not help but the car does handle and the ride/suspension compromise is well engineered.

r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
Only recently found out Merc also did a hardtop for these, don't think I've see one in use.

Bit of Merc pedantry for you: the hardtop wasn't a MB part, it was made by Weissmann. It was hilariously expensive. I think you could order it (in period) through your dealer. There are a few around and about.

They say the 124 is not a driver's car. If that means tearing about like the boot is on fire, kidding yourself that you're descended from Stirling Moss, that every straight is Mulsanne and every corner Indianapolis, then maybe so. But as a tool for driving in the real world on real roads among real traffic, and for making good progress, it is pretty much unsurpassed.

wile7

275 posts

221 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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This article has brought up some mixed emotions for me. Bear with me smile We recently moved to Switzerland (new job) and a long story very short I managed to track down and buy a 124 cabriolet in E320 Sportline with the very rare dogleg Getrac 5 speed manual gearbox (as fitted to Maseratis etc.). Only 59 made (110 with the standard 5 speed I think). FMBSH and a healthy mileage (180k kms) but in very good condition considering. And, like many second hand cars in Switzerland, actually very cheap for what it was (£5k eek ).

Anyway back in November 2014, two weeks into ownership, I was involved in my first ever accident in 30 years of driving.

I was hit broadside (T-boned) at about 80 kmh by a car that simply did not see that his minor road was crossing a main A road (he admitted to fiddling with the sat Nav.....). I didnt have time to think as he hit me just in front of the footwell.....thankfully I was alone without kids. I walked away with no broken bones just bruised and battered with a couple of dislocated fingers and a sore head. Lucky. His car (a new Hyundai Coupe Turbo) was totalled and his wife was in hospital for a couple of months. He had broken leg.

My car was a write off ( cry ) and I was unable to drive for a few months (Headaches and dizziness as my head went through the drivers window). The safety shell of that Merc was untouched though...but it shook me up. Saddest thing is that to replace that car would cost me in excess of £15k now, cash I simply don't have.

So, for two weeks our family had a very rare A124 cabriolet. It was a relaxing, comfortable 4 seater cabrio and a very cool car that drew admiring glances. In manual form it flew when you wanted it too (for such a heavy car that is).

Decent ones (the last E320 versions on the 5sp auto) will be £50k in a few years for sure so if its your thing, grab one while you can. It will be a sure fire investment (in fact any 124 model will be I reckon if its in good nick). You will not be disappointed.

A couple of photos of mine below (before and after) grumpy









And the other one....


Nuppy

95 posts

162 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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I love these. Dad had an e280, pretty much the last of the w124s. Okay it was a saloon, but as a cruiser it was just lovely.
Cabrios look gorgeous too, would love one but pretty sure they'll soon be mega money.

wile7

275 posts

221 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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r129sl said:
Bit of Merc pedantry for you: the hardtop wasn't a MB part, it was made by Weissmann. It was hilariously expensive. I think you could order it (in period) through your dealer. There are a few around and about.

They say the 124 is not a driver's car. If that means tearing about like the boot is on fire, kidding yourself that you're descended from Stirling Moss, that every straight is Mulsanne and every corner Indianapolis, then maybe so. But as a tool for driving in the real world on real roads among real traffic, and for making good progress, it is pretty much unsurpassed.
I've had a few incarnations of the 124 series and you are absolutely right. As a comfortable, reasonably swift when needed and safe car for real world traffic they are unsurpassed. I think the Lexus LS400 is probably the closest thing post 124 production (and I believe Toyota used the W124 as its benchmark in developing the LS400 back in the day).

As for the hard top, yes, Weissmann made them and mine had one (along with the original wind deflector). I kept them after the crash. Hard top is very rare - I sold it for the equivalent of £1700 and the deflector for £300. Bitter sweet.