RE: BBR Mazda Super 255 MX-5

RE: BBR Mazda Super 255 MX-5

Friday 14th August 2015

Mazda MX-5 BBR Super 225

Throttle body conversion adds more power to purist friendly normally aspirated MX-5 tuning packages; sounds 'raucous' according to BBR



We've written enough about BBR's tuning upgrades for MX-5s for you to understand we're big fans of the firm's modular approach to spicing up the outgoing NC version, ahead of turning its attention to the new ND. It'll be a while before those are available but there are, of course, plenty of NCs in the market. Though billed as a "last blast" farewell package BBR's new Super 225 throttle body upgrade therefore has ongoing relevance.

Obviously you could add the kit to a freshly bought run-out NC but, as we've said several times before, with the necessary fiscal denial you could easily buy a £5K used NC and spend the same again with BBR turning it into something seriously potent. The GT270 turbo kit is the one for the real speed junkies but the various stages of normally aspirated tuning, last driven here in Super 200 form, are perhaps more in keeping with the true MX-5 character.

Optional BBR airbox quietens 'raucous' foam set-up
Optional BBR airbox quietens 'raucous' foam set-up
Clue in the name but the Super 225 moves the game on from the Super 200 and delivers a pretty heady 225hp at 7,900rpm with 175lb ft of torque at 4,500rpm. Impressive gains from the stock 160hp and 139lb ft but, as we all know, harder to win via normally aspirated tuning when compared with what you can achieve by bolting on a turbo or supercharger. Jota has also offered a throttle-bodied MX-5 conversion, its 205hp GT costing just shy of £30K as a complete package but down on power compared with BBR's kit.

BBR has worked hard to keep costs within reason too, the full package available fitted on a 'drive in, drive out' basis for £4,295. If you've already got your MX-5 to Super 200 tune you can upgrade for £2,495 fitted or, if you're more hands-on with your tuning, BBR will sell you the throttle-body kit for £1,730. All prices are plus VAT.

"Target power figures aside, our primary objective with the Super 225 program was to retain as much of the original Mazda electronics system as possible, to cap costs at a realistic level for our enthusiast market and avoid the need for a motorsport style engine management system," says BBR's Neil McKay in the press release announcing the kit. To that end the stock ECU is recalibrated but retained, meaning traction control and main dealer serviceability are maintained.

Graphs to ponder for the rolling road fans
Graphs to ponder for the rolling road fans
No denying, it's a wedge of money to throw at an MX-5. But you do get a fair bit of kit, the package comprising a stainless four-into-one exhaust manifold, new cams, branded tailpipes, 'direct to head' AT Power throttle bodies, unique AT Power/BBR curved inlets, machined aluminium inlet pipes, fittings to integrate the stock Mazda MAP sensor installation, Ramair foam air filter and a BBR engine breather system. If you want something quieter than the "raucous" (BBR's words) standard foam filters or find yourself troubling track day noise limits there's an optional BBR airbox kit for an additional £200. Brake, suspension, styling and wheel packages are also available if you're still in the mood to spend.

Like the sound of it? We'll be driving the Super 225 next week and will report back. And we've asked them to leave the noisy air filters in place...

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winshent

Original Poster:

1,170 posts

195 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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"BBR Mazda Super 255 MX-5" has 225bhp ?

Jam12321

164 posts

110 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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Mistake in the heading it seems as it is called the BBR super 225

http://www.bbrgti.com/product_details.php?id=11699...

nice dyno result, 150 lb/ft from 3.25k all the way to 8K is very nice

neil-935ql

1,083 posts

106 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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Well a step in the right direction for the mx5 more power ! They should come out of the factory like this , I may even reconsider my view point on this car much more like it

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

163 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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Correct me if I'm wrong but is this a 2.0 N/A making a claimed 87.5lbs/litre?

Seems extraordinarily high if that is the case.

Adrian W

13,870 posts

228 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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wouldn't it be good if they published some performance figures

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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winshent said:
"BBR Mazda Super 255 MX-5" has 225bhp ?
Apologies, typo in headline gifted BBR an additional 20hp - if only it was as simple as that!

Now corrected!

Dan

scz4

2,503 posts

241 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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I like the concept of this. Once it gets going it sounds a little like my S2000 did. Sounds slow though, are they tall geared?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWZXUdC_YLE

Look forward to the review. Would be interesting to hear how it compares to the turbo.


Edited by scz4 on Thursday 13th August 14:06

daytona365

1,773 posts

164 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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This is neat....What it should have been in the beginning imo.

P4ROT

1,219 posts

193 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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Always love the bbr mx5s, but by the time you've done this conversion (along with tyres, breaks, suspension to cope with the added power) you're in the price range of some pretty desirable machines. I therefore would find it hard to justify the purchase. Would be great to but one already done though! :-)

underphil

1,245 posts

210 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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Dan Trent said:
winshent said:
"BBR Mazda Super 255 MX-5" has 225bhp ?
Apologies, typo in headline gifted BBR an additional 20hp - if only it was as simple as that!

Now corrected!

Dan

255 - 225 = ??

smile

Wadeski

8,157 posts

213 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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whats the price difference compared with a BBR turbo kit of comparable power?

underphil

1,245 posts

210 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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StottyEvo said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but is this a 2.0 N/A making a claimed 87.5lbs/litre?

Seems extraordinarily high if that is the case.
yeah, I can't recall seeing anything else making 100bhp/litre at only 6150rpm

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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underphil said:

255 - 225 = ??

smile
getmecoat

JamesHayward

655 posts

164 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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underphil said:
yeah, I can't recall seeing anything else making 100bhp/litre at only 6150rpm
The MZR engine is a seriously capable bit of kit. Morgan Aero Babydoll, Caterham R500, BAC Mono all make 250ish bhp, NA, from the 2.0 MZR lump. The 2.5 lump is a whole different ball game.

Charlie Michael

2,750 posts

184 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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Hmmm, I could seriously see myself going down the BBR route on mine!

Can't wait to read the review!

Lunar Tick

112 posts

141 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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underphil said:
yeah, I can't recall seeing anything else making 100bhp/litre at only 6150rpm
Nice conversion. But still a long way behind Honda's K20 in terms of capability. Here's my NA K20 making 100bhp per litre at 5750rpm while on the standard inlet manifold. Standard internals, just running cams and bolt ons smile

Martin_Hx

3,955 posts

198 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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Awesome Lunar, i bet that's awesome fun and pretty savage! Civic or Integra?

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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StottyEvo said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but is this a 2.0 N/A making a claimed 87.5lbs/litre?

Seems extraordinarily high if that is the case.
Is it, really?

underphil

1,245 posts

210 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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Lunar Tick said:
underphil said:
yeah, I can't recall seeing anything else making 100bhp/litre at only 6150rpm
Nice conversion. But still a long way behind Honda's K20 in terms of capability. Here's my NA K20 making 100bhp per litre at 5750rpm while on the standard inlet manifold. Standard internals, just running cams and bolt ons smile
who said modifying n/a engines is a fool's errand?!!

Charlie Michael

2,750 posts

184 months

Thursday 13th August 2015
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Have just seen this video after a YT search:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcFakrfjbUA

Sounds nice and gruff! biggrin