RE: Mazda MX-5 BBR Super 225: Review

RE: Mazda MX-5 BBR Super 225: Review

Friday 21st August 2015

Mazda MX-5 BBR Super 225: Review

BBR gives the Mk3 MX-5 its own little send off with 225hp and 8,000rpm!



Little doubt, if you're chasing big numbers and an impressive return on investment fitting a turbo or supercharger is a (relatively) cost-effective way of tuning a car. Especially if your starting point is a normally aspirated model regularly criticised for lack of power from stock, like the Mazda MX-5 or Toyota GT86.

MX-5 and a B-road - match made in heaven!
MX-5 and a B-road - match made in heaven!
Forced induction will let you hold your head high on that rolling road shootout or standing start contest. May even give bag giant killing 'I overtook a GT-R!' bragging rights on a track day. So why on earth would you want to spend as much, if not more, on normally aspirated tuning achieving a fraction of the power gains?

Character is one. As you'll no doubt know, BBR offers a 270hp turbo conversion for the outgoing NC MX-5 that can have it nibbling at the heels of some very serious sports cars for relatively little cash. It's a hoot and a commendably refined installation.

But some might argue not entirely in keeping with the MX-5's ethos. Over four generations and a quarter of a century we've learned that Mazda has consistently laid the foundations for a great little driver's car in the MX-5. But never quite delivered one out of the box. If you like the idea but want a bit more focus and a proper translation of the old Jinba whatnot you need some help from the aftermarket.

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The good news is that the NC MX-5's 2.0-litre engine is pretty understressed out of the box and responds well to a bit of fettling. This is, at heart, the same as Ford's Duratec motor used to such great effect in various hot Caterhams and others after all. BBR offers modular packages for this and the 1.8 under self explanatory Super 175, Super 180, Super 200 and - now - Super 225 branding. Need to know the details? Check out our news story on the 'last blast' Super 225 package; here we're off to drive it!

Revs to 8,000, makes 225hp...
Revs to 8,000, makes 225hp...
In brief Super 225 builds on Super 200 and adds a full individual throttle body induction system to unleash an excitingly wild sounding 225hp at 7,900rpm. Torque increases from the stock 138lb ft to 175lb ft at 4,500rpm, with 150lb ft available all the way to the limiter. Enough, hopefully, to drown out the predictable hairdresser jibes and turn the MX-5 into something a bit more purposeful. You can add it to a newly bought run-out NC MX-5 2.0. Or hunt one out in the classifieds and bolt it on for a more affordable option. Pre-facelift Mk3s are capped on revs to just over 7,000rpm, later Mk3.5s and Mk3.75s have a stronger forged crank and valve springs from stock so can take 8,000rpm-plus, though BBR's Neil McKay acknowledges all the power is there at 7K so you get the full 225hp whichever car you base it on.

BBR's demo car is a Mk3.5, traded in by a customer building a turbo car and, with 70,000 miles, the kind of thing that'd cost you around £10K in the classifieds. It's the best option if you still want a soft-top, all later 2.0s Roadster Coupes. Full PH buying guide on NC MX-5s here if you want more info.

Suspension upgrade £995 well spent
Suspension upgrade £995 well spent
Opening gambit
Immediately on start-up the Super 225 has a much more urgent and purposeful feel about it, the engine revving crisply and enthusiastically with a nice little rasp through the BBR exhaust system. Addressing breathing on both intake and exhaust, BBR's approach is traditional tuning and the package includes inlet ram pipes and extensions, new camshafts for intake and exhaust, a bespoke four-into-one exhaust manifold and new mountings for the stock MAP sensor assembly.

Warming up along the adjacent A43 in search of more MX-5 appropriate B-roads the first impression of the power delivery is that it is very linear and, in the BBR style, has a very 'OE' feel about it. Pick-up is keener and the improved breathing gives the engine a sharper edge but it's not immediately punch you in the back fast like the GT270 turbo kit.

When Neil described the standard foam Ramair filter kit as "raucous" and "too much" and told us he'd fitted his demo car with the optional quieter airbox kit we obviously asked him to take it off and put the foam kit back on. Sadly he ran out of time before we arrived so the bespoke airbox was in place. And it certainly does tame the induction scream throttle bodies can add. We've seen a rough onboard video of a test run without the airbox and he's not wrong about the raucous bit. Each to their own but if it was our money we'd take the noise and £200 saving, true sophisticates appreciating that free-breathing induction bark is far cooler than a noisy exhaust!

Looks good, sounds better - see the vid!
Looks good, sounds better - see the vid!
Wringing it
For those accustomed to 'new-school' engines the idea of wringing a car beyond 7,000rpm is probably a bit of a culture shock. Hell, going beyond '4' on the rev counter these days is probably considered a bit risque and pointless, given the way modern engines deliver their power and torque. But old-school tuning requires old-school dedication to revs and once onto the back roads the Super 225 really comes alive. Anyone who's driven an S2000 will be familiar with the discipline required to push into the red zone on the rev counter and, while it's not quite VTEC feral, the throttle bodies give the MX-5 motor real spice.

And the beauty is the stuff you need to make this all come together - a short-throw shift, nice tight gearing, limited-slip diff, great pedal spacing and engagingly chuckable nature - are already there in the MX-5. As previously noted, BBR's spring and damper set-up really works well on the road too, being stiff and low enough to improve poise and body control without ruining comfort or sending any nasty shudders through the bodywork. In conclusion the mods are all very sympathetic to the standard car - it's basically everything that's great about the NC MX-5, just a bit more so.


BBR MAZDA MX-5 (NC) SUPER 225
Engine:
1,999cc 4-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 225@7,900rpm (160@7,000rpm)
Torque (lb ft): 175@4,500rpm (139@5,000rpm)
0-62mph: 7.9 sec standard, none stated for Super 225
Top speed: 136mph standard, none stated for Super 225
Weight: 1,248kg (standard 2.0 Roadster Coupe)
MPG: 36.2mpg (standard, NEDC combined)
CO2: 181g/km (standard)
Price: Donor car plus £3,490 for DIY kit, £4,295 fitted; also available as an upgrade to Super 200 spec cars for £2,495 fitted or as standalone throttle body kit for £1,730; BBR Koni suspension kit £995. All prices +VAT.

More info via BBR here.

Watch the drive-by video here.
 





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Discussion

Vroom101

Original Poster:

828 posts

134 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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Looks a real hoot. Good on BBR for developing the NA route.
I never understood why Mazda never did something like this themselves. They would've sold shed loads.

I'm looking in the future to get an MX-5, and would give this kit some serious consideration. I know the kit isn't cheap (and it annoys me that BBR always quote their prices excluding VAT), but it gives the little roadster and extra boost of character and just makes it more fun, and I think that's the whole point of this car - serious, noisy, fun!

GranCab

2,902 posts

147 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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How very dare you write about BBR MX-5s - or any other car for that matter - you know you will be accused of bias/fawning/bad grammar ..... wobble

Happyjap

382 posts

110 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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I feel this is a no brainer Mr Dan, Japan make the best cars and anyone who disagree with this is a mental or French!

RupertM

10 posts

106 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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There is no negative to write here. It appears to be a fantastic mod to an incredible car.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

189 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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This really appeals to me

herebebeasties

672 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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Dear Dan,

I find your writing style hard to read. And it could be because you start half your sentences with coordinating conjunctions. But that makes everything choppy as anything. And I'm not a fan. You even start entire paragraphs with them.

But you already know that. Or should do, anyway.

Yours sincerely,

A reader who likes what you have to say. But is annoyed by the choppiness of your prose.


Regarding the actual kit, it looks absolutely ace - quite good value altogether for what you end up with, given the relatively cheap starting price for the car.

Edited by herebebeasties on Thursday 20th August 18:00

666 SVT

1,052 posts

241 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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I like the idea but for that money I'd be going the TVR Chimaera route.

Blackpuddin

16,591 posts

206 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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If this is anything like as good as the original BBR turbo conversion was for the Mk 1 MX-5, then it will be brilliant.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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herebebeasties said:
Dear Dan,

I find your writing style hard to read.
Perhaps the most polite and critique ever submitted to an internet forum and I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it. Consider it noted before hands next take to keyboard.

I'm glad you liked the sound of the car though!

Dan

redroadster

1,752 posts

233 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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I,d like some performance figues to see difference to standard car ,not a big ask when having to hand over a fairly large amount of money .

jjr1

3,023 posts

261 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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herebebeasties said:
Dear Dan,

I find your writing style hard to read. And it could be because you start half your sentences with coordinating conjunctions. But that makes everything choppy as anything. And I'm not a fan. You even start entire paragraphs with them.

But you already know that. Or should do, anyway.

Yours sincerely,

A reader who likes what you have to say. But is annoyed by the choppiness of your prose.


Regarding the actual kit, it looks absolutely ace - quite good value altogether for what you end up with, given the relatively cheap starting price for the car.

Edited by herebebeasties on Thursday 20th August 18:00
I have always wondered why I hate reading his prose and have never been able to appreciate why. Thank you for pointing it out and hopefully in future, these articles might make a little more sense.

Gompo

4,415 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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First thing that struck me was the very high torque per litre.. Sounds like it could be a great power plant.

chelme

1,353 posts

171 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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That sounds so sweet. Damn! I am tempted.

ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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I have a theory that there is quite a strong correlation between high specific outputs and character, at least for NA engines. I like the sound and feel of an engine that it is making full use of its capacity smile

The Porsche flat sixes that I have experienced could probably be ranked precisely in order of specific output and that would match what I think of them as engines. I might be wrong, but it's a pattern I have noticed.

LasseV

1,754 posts

134 months

Thursday 20th August 2015
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I love this kind of articles in PH. Well done Dan!

And that car makes me want to have mx5.... First time in my life!!

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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herebebeasties said:
Dear Dan,

I find your writing style hard to read. And it could be because you start half your sentences with coordinating conjunctions. But that makes everything choppy as anything. And I'm not a fan. You even start entire paragraphs with them.

But you already know that. Or should do, anyway.

Yours sincerely,

A reader who likes what you have to say. But is annoyed by the choppiness of your prose.


Regarding the actual kit, it looks absolutely ace - quite good value altogether for what you end up with, given the relatively cheap starting price for the car.

Edited by herebebeasties on Thursday 20th August 18:00
You missed out the P.S. before your last sentence, it really annoys me when people do that. Also, in the first sentence, you used "and" after a full stop. That fecks me off also. Just leave the full stop out. I guess you are young though so know no better. I'm not even going to mention the "what you have to say. But is annoyed" bit where you plop down another full stop and a capital B on but when neither is needed. It makes it as choppy as hell.....

I'm sorta blanking out that ". And I'm not a fan." bit also with the extra full stop before and. Do you have to put punctuation in before every linking word so making a mockery of the English language? It makes your writing, dare I say it, hard to read. wink

Meanwhile in Autocar Nic Crackpot writes

". In Sport, the long-travel pedal goes from emulsion roller to watercolor brush.

Macromolecular increments produce different accelerative effects, maturing from hot hatch to sports car to hypercar within an Achilles tendon-worth of travel. It is easily delicate enough - and the higher gears long enough - for you to macerate your licence in a single ratio simply by half-hustling the V12 through its range of impressions"

Sorry but I would rather have Dan tell it is how it is, even if the readers who cannot write replies correctly, feel they cannot read it, rather than this flowery nonesense.

I love the sentence

"Its general clumsiness made it easy to mash the V12 into hyper-frenzy, then call time at a corner because the car was as feelsome as a brick-wheeled rocket sledge."

Rocket sleds don't have wheels, brick or otherwise.


PS Your co-coordinating conjunctions where spot on in your reply among the 10 other mistakes.

PPS Can someone link me the bit in the Bible about grammar sinners casting the first stone? In glass-houses?

PPS I am taking the piss too. I just wanted to stick the boot into Nic so used it as a vehicle. biggrin


Edited by Gandahar on Friday 21st August 00:24

ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Gandahar said:
You missed out the P.S. before your last sentence, it really annoys me when people do that. Also, in the first sentence, you used "and" after a full stop. That fecks me off also. Just leave the full stop out. I guess you are young though so know no better. I'm not even going to mention the "what you have to say. But is annoyed" bit where you plop down another full stop and a capital B on but when neither is needed. It makes it as choppy as hell.....

I'm sorta blanking out that ". And I'm not a fan." bit also with the extra full stop before and. Do you have to put punctuation in before every linking word so making a mockery of the English language? It makes your writing, dare I say it, hard to read. wink

Meanwhile in Autocar Nic Crackpot writes

". In Sport, the long-travel pedal goes from emulsion roller to watercolor brush.

Macromolecular increments produce different accelerative effects, maturing from hot hatch to sports car to hypercar within an Achilles tendon-worth of travel. It is easily delicate enough - and the higher gears long enough - for you to macerate your licence in a single ratio simply by half-hustling the V12 through its range of impressions"

Sorry but I would rather have Dan tell it is how it is, even if the readers who cannot write replies correctly, feel they cannot read it, rather than this flowery nonesense.

I love the sentence

"Its general clumsiness made it easy to mash the V12 into hyper-frenzy, then call time at a corner because the car was as feelsome as a brick-wheeled rocket sledge."

Rocket sleds don't have wheels, brick or otherwise.


PS Your co-coordinating conjunctions where spot on in your reply among the 10 other mistakes.

PPS Can someone link me the bit in the Bible about grammar sinners casting the first stone? In glass-houses?

PPS I am taking the piss too. I just wanted to stick the boot into Nic so used it as a vehicle. biggrin

Edited by Gandahar on Friday 21st August 00:24
Whoosh.
p.s. Look up 'comma splicing'.

jjr1

3,023 posts

261 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Gandahar said:
herebebeasties said:
Dear Dan,

I find your writing style hard to read. And it could be because you start half your sentences with coordinating conjunctions. But that makes everything choppy as anything. And I'm not a fan. You even start entire paragraphs with them.

But you already know that. Or should do, anyway.

Yours sincerely,

A reader who likes what you have to say. But is annoyed by the choppiness of your prose.


Regarding the actual kit, it looks absolutely ace - quite good value altogether for what you end up with, given the relatively cheap starting price for the car.

Edited by herebebeasties on Thursday 20th August 18:00
You missed out the P.S. before your last sentence, it really annoys me when people do that. Also, in the first sentence, you used "and" after a full stop. That fecks me off also. Just leave the full stop out. I guess you are young though so know no better. I'm not even going to mention the "what you have to say. But is annoyed" bit where you plop down another full stop and a capital B on but when neither is needed. It makes it as choppy as hell.....

I'm sorta blanking out that ". And I'm not a fan." bit also with the extra full stop before and. Do you have to put punctuation in before every linking word so making a mockery of the English language? It makes your writing, dare I say it, hard to read. wink

Meanwhile in Autocar Nic Crackpot writes

". In Sport, the long-travel pedal goes from emulsion roller to watercolor brush.

Macromolecular increments produce different accelerative effects, maturing from hot hatch to sports car to hypercar within an Achilles tendon-worth of travel. It is easily delicate enough - and the higher gears long enough - for you to macerate your licence in a single ratio simply by half-hustling the V12 through its range of impressions"

Sorry but I would rather have Dan tell it is how it is, even if the readers who cannot write replies correctly, feel they cannot read it, rather than this flowery nonesense.

I love the sentence

"Its general clumsiness made it easy to mash the V12 into hyper-frenzy, then call time at a corner because the car was as feelsome as a brick-wheeled rocket sledge."

Rocket sleds don't have wheels, brick or otherwise.


PS Your co-coordinating conjunctions where spot on in your reply among the 10 other mistakes.

PPS Can someone link me the bit in the Bible about grammar sinners casting the first stone? In glass-houses?

PPS I am taking the piss too. I just wanted to stick the boot into Nic so used it as a vehicle. biggrin


Edited by Gandahar on Friday 21st August 00:24
I thought the original article was a big pile of ste but you have managed to reply to it like a baboon on speed....... Try a deep breath and calm down.

charli3

1 posts

146 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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Looks and sounds good. Hope they've tested it fully and offer decent backup, unlike their turbo kits...

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

219 months

Friday 21st August 2015
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A story to tell there?