RE: Shed Of The Week: Honda Prelude VTI

RE: Shed Of The Week: Honda Prelude VTI

Saturday 29th August 2015

Shed Of The Week: Honda Prelude VTI

Shed lets the VTEC kick in with an apparently cherished and rather nice manual Prelude



What would you rather have: something that's been around the block a few times but has obviously been well looked after, or something with fewer miles under its belt but that may have been lying around unused for long periods?

Beauty is under the skin, honest
Beauty is under the skin, honest
In reference to Mrs Shed, Shed has somehow ended up with the worst of all possible worlds, but generally speaking if you give him the choice between a nice leggy number and a dried-up prune that hasn't been given a thorough seeing-to for a good while, he'll usually go for the first option.

And that choice is what we are faced with this week in this handsome Gen 5 Honda Prelude. Your man selling it has made the most of Honda's sporting heritage with some shameless namedropping. This far down the line that's a bit like invoking the spirit of Fangio in an ad for a Fiat Coupe.

Actually, that's not fair. The Prelude VTI is better than that. Dan has issued strict instructions prohibiting any mention of the famously erudite motoring journalist LJK Setright in this piece. That's a shame because it prevents us from telling you about Setright's very satisfied ownership of not just one but several 4WS Preludes. 4WS stands for four-wheel steering, a system with which (we would have been able to tell you) LJK was very much enamoured. So much so in fact that he resolved to keep his last Prelude 4WS long after they went out of production. It turned out to be the last car he owned. "Deftness, adroitness, sensual gratification, agility, accuracy: all these terms come flooding to mind when trying to explain why this car is nicer to drive than anything else," Setright (might have) said.

Shows up pretty well for 172,000 miles!
Shows up pretty well for 172,000 miles!
"What may matter most is the supreme ability to dodge, which has saved me from an assortment of accidents involving either errant road-users or things falling off lorries," he (probably) concluded.

Such a pity that we can't tell you any of that.

Rest assured though that the 4WS system production-pioneered in this car goes a long way towards defusing any potential objections about the Prelude's front-wheel driviness. Some owners and hacks criticised the car's steering feel, but the handling was friendly and predictable and if you piled into a bend with too much steam up it would give you a get of jail free card. Four-wheel drifts can, supposedly at least, be a part of the Prelude repertoire.

They're not the lightest cars, but they're comfortable, reliable, fast when called upon to be so and capable of far greater mileages than this one has done. A good definition of a four-seat GT car, you might say.

Being sold by a PHer is good news, right?
Being sold by a PHer is good news, right?
The magical VTEC is present and correct on our VTI Shed, so even with 172K miles on the clock and a few horses long gone to the glue factory you'll still be feeling that pant-crinkling thrunge when the second-stage cam timing kicks in (yo). Because it's a 2.2-litre, there's no shortage of bottom-end torque. For many, this engine was pretty much an ideal four-cylinder 16-valver.

Rear arch rust is a common Prelude problem, and this one has it, but the vendor has tried to keep on top of things generally and seems like someone with the right attitude. The only mod he's done is to replace the air filter, which is pleasing. At this stage of the car's life the next sensible tweak might be to braid up the brake lines and refresh the suspension.

Wheel bearing replacement is not such an easy job. Although it's nice to have the manual gearbox, as the auto was poor, the synchro wasn't the strongest in the industry. Problems getting fifth to engage is a sign of wear. Cambelts are replaceable every 80K or five years, and the automatic tensioners are known to fail. Expect some oil to be consumed, maybe as much as a pint every 1,500 miles, but this doesn't mean imminent engine failure.

Mmm, velour!
Mmm, velour!
Set against all that, the driving position is excellent and the velour upholstery on this specimen has held up well. Even the exaggerated seat side bolsters seem to have stoutly resisted the eroding effects of countless buttocks over the years. Leathered Preludes are rare.

The bodykitted 200hp redtop-engined Motegi models are faster (0-60 in 6.7sec), more desirable, as are the Type S JDM cars, but they're also more expensive. You'll need to get over the headlights as they all look like that sir, unless it's a Gen 4 of course, now that was a good looking car (contd p94).

Here's the ad.

Unusual and great drivers car with best combination of rare manual gearbox, factory bodykit and an original UK car not an import which means this will be cheaper on insurance.
These cars had trickle down Formula 1 technology from Honda's experience in Formula 1 when they were winning with Aryton Senna who actually appeared in the Prelude adverts. Such technology insludes carbonm fibre aluminium composite cylinder linings and dynamic chambering variable intake system to maximise low down torque and high revs power.
circa 190 bhp
Very reliable as you would expect with many on much higher mileages
Well looked after and mechanically excellent with no faults having been used regularly for my 7 years of ownership and never let me down. Engine sounds great with a strong push in the back upon Vtec activation.
comes with...
cruise control
air con very cold
four wheel steering for great handling and flat cornering plus easy parking
Almost exclusively Honda OEM parts used which are more expensive but of a better quality and why these last so long
Michelin Pilot Sport 3 tyres, slightly wider than standard and lower profile so almost identical diameter to original meaning speedo reads accurately. These are the best tyres having tried many
Electric sunroof plus windows and mirrors
Front airbags
Sony head unit with 3.5mm AUX input on face plate.
Good JL audio speakers all round with amp in the boot
Upgraded air filter the only modification other than stereo upgrade
Paintwork generally excellent and a deep shine when polished
MOT Nov 2015
New owner will have to tax immediately as per new rules.
No test drive withjout proof of insurance and only to confirm a buying decision.
Extensive service history including MOTs
Bad points. Some rust on rear arches only as fronts sorted some time ago. Have a can of the original paint left over that garage gave me either for use or paint code reference. Small dent in on front wing at front that someone left me in a car park. I never got it pulled out as so slight but thought i should mention. No paint removed.
An enthusiast who now knows quite a bit about these cars. See my PH profile for more information on these cars. Member AdamAJP.
Sorry to be selling this car which really is excellent to drive. Only selling as needed more doors for everyday use.
Looking for £1,000
Any queries please ask








 

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Track Rod

Original Poster:

247 posts

147 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Love it! Best SOTW for ages, ticks pretty much all of my boxes. Not so keen on the colour but I could live with that. I wish Honda still made a Prelude.

rejn

1,991 posts

222 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Track Rod said:
Best SOTW for ages
yes agreed.
I love it.

J4CKO

41,485 posts

200 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Liking that, there is enough inherent quality to stand those miles which makes it worth, as shed mentions, refreshing the suspension and braiding the brake lines, i.e. it isnt an utter ruin and with some thoughtful fettling will have loads of life left. Plus its interesting, and seemingly enjoyable enough to make it worth sinking a few quid and a bit of time into.

I think Honda are possibly the best built/quality cars out there, not nice interior plastics but actual material and design quality where it counts, our local curry place run a battered Civic, L reg, 1994 with 300 odd thousand miles on, it just keeps going and going.


Scottie - NW

1,288 posts

233 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Great car for the money.

Good article as well.

Any car of that age that is treated to Pilot tyres is obviously very well maintained.

grumpy52

5,571 posts

166 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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I prefer this Prelude , it's worth a bit more than a bag of sand though.

mogjay

31 posts

147 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Big fan of preludes, setright loved them

but for some reason the seats in everyone iv looked at without black cloth or leather have looked absolutely filthy, in the market for a shed so if its about next week so who knows.

shalmaneser

5,931 posts

195 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Scottie - NW said:
Great car for the money.

Good article as well.

Any car of that age that is treated to Pilot tyres is obviously very well maintained.
Quite.

This is a great shed.

J4CKO

41,485 posts

200 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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mogjay said:
Big fan of preludes, setright loved them

but for some reason the seats in everyone iv looked at without black cloth or leather have looked absolutely filthy, in the market for a shed so if its about next week so who knows.
Easy to sort, £50 or so and an afternoons work,

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-06489-1000-Vacuum-C...

Plus some 2001 or other interior type stuff, did our Galaxy and they went from shiny, grubby looking with water marks to pretty much like new.

And for leather, the furniture clinc stuff can effect amazing transformations.

basically a bit of a manky interior is a great negotiating point, but if it isnt completely shredded, easy and cheap to sort out and makes it so much fresher.


James Junior

827 posts

157 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Always though the styling of these was very disappointing after the very handsome and well proportioned previous model.

The headlights, nose and overall proportions just looks wrong to me.

daveco

4,125 posts

207 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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James Junior said:
Always though the styling of these was very disappointing after the very handsome and well proportioned previous model.

The headlights, nose and overall proportions just looks wrong to me.
Yep. Pig ugly thing but no doubt the engine would have you grinning from ear to ear.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

174 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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I looked at one of these a while back and the insurance quotes were absolutely bonkers when you factor in the lukewarm performance on offer.

Otherwise it is a decent looking shed.... although a shortish MOT.

Zippee

13,458 posts

234 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Much prefer the Gen 4s, I miss my old 2.3 like crazy...

MadDog1962

890 posts

162 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Although this is definitely a decent SOTW, I just wish it was a 4th generation model instead of a 5th generation.

I owned a good example of the former 15 years ago. It was a wonderful vehicle. Fast, refined, comfortable and well equipped. It drove like a luxury car. It would still measure up well against contemporaries today. Much better than an equivalent Celica IMHO. Only negative would be the almost useless back seats.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Pug ugly with a face only a mother could love.

Great to drive though with the 4WS if a bit odd, fantastically easy to park as well. The black cloth on mine looked perfect at 110K miles and the interior was unmarked, even the nasty wood.

I loved mine but found legroom and therefore driver comfort compromised for long journeys.

Good shout for a grand although I paid 900 quid for mine with far less miles. Prices are obviously on the up.

Edited by Motorrad on Friday 28th August 11:41

towinjustonce

2 posts

105 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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So much want

The Don of Croy

5,991 posts

159 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Local garage had a well used example as their 'snotter' for about a year. The demonstration of the turning circle - at speed in a car park - was revelatory.

Technically intriguing, aesthetically a non-starter (unlike the predecessor).

j_s14a

863 posts

178 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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4th Gen is better looking from the front, but from the side or back the 5th gen is nicer. 4th Gen wins hands down for its interior (THAT dashboard).

I remember a friend trying to decide between one of these and an S14a 200sx a few years ago. He chose the 200SX, a wise choice.

soad

32,880 posts

176 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Is it me, or are these becoming quite a rare sight?

Triumph Man

8,687 posts

168 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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I've always been fascinated by these, I don't really care about the looks, it's all about the nerdy tech for me!

matt_knowles

746 posts

213 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Love these.

I had a gen4 2.2 si vtec BB4 import, and its one of the very best cars i've owned.

Paint was semi faded and the wheels needed a refurb, but otherwise it was utterly superb!

Went well, sounded fantastic, handled great and one of the best manual boxes i've used to date.

At the time, it was a left field option but once my friends had a spin in it they were sold.

Heres my old one (gotta love that dash, seats and those original prelude floor mats!)











Edited by matt_knowles on Friday 28th August 12:39