RE: Clio RenaultSport 220 Trophy on Track

RE: Clio RenaultSport 220 Trophy on Track

Wednesday 2nd September 2015

Clio RenaultSport 220 Trophy on Track

Do the Trophy mods finally quieten the mutters about the hot Clio? To Oulton Park to find out!



We were present when the sheet was drawn back in March and we've tested it on UK roads. Now the final piece of the puzzle; a chance to drive the 220 Trophy in anger on track.

Looks the part but does it live up to the name?
Looks the part but does it live up to the name?
Considering the venue is Oulton Park anger, might not be the best emotion to employ. Wonderful as it is with its high-speed bends, rolling topography and claustrophobic track limits, respect might be a better option. Particularly as heavy rain is forecast for the afternoon.

But at the moment it's warm and sunny and the 220 Trophy looks rather good sitting in the paddock dressed in matt Frost White and contrasting black roof. The swan that grew out of the rather plain duckling? That might be pushing it a touch, but the lowered suspension has definitely brought a welcome improvement to the aesthetics. Once inside, well, it's tough not to be disappointed by the lack of Recaros. It's not that the new 'bucket' seats are bad; they're not. OK, the headrests tilt your neck forward when you're wearing a helmet, but the real problem is that they're just not special enough for something with a Trophy badge on the back. Nor, at £1,600, are they great value. Particularly as Nissan charges you just £1,300 to put Recaros inside a Juke Nismo RS which, remember, shares the same basic platform and engine.

Faster response here among updates
Faster response here among updates
Quickshift
Poke the starter button and there's a slightly deeper, more mature voice from the new exhaust. The engine itself, sadly, sounds as bland as it always did. With a completely dry track ahead, we have no qualms about pressing and holding the RS button and selecting Race mode. This gives the fastest shifts and completely switches off the traction control and stability control. It's only accessible once you've taken full manual control of the gearbox, too, by pushing the gear selector across to the left.

We are hoping for good things with the first tug of the column-mounted upshift paddle. It's still a bit of a stretch to the alloy angel-wing, and its motion is badly wanting for some kind of feedback, but what used to be a go-away-and-make-a-brew intermission, is now a split-second pause to second. And it gets better from here on up, with second through to sixth being delivered almost instantly. A class-leading dual-clutch it is not, but finally it has the pace and obedience befitting a hot hatch.

From the first corner on the warm-up lap, the handling transformation is patently obvious. We say transformation, because it really is a different proposition, even to the 200 with Cup chassis. Firmer spring rates may jostle around the lumpy paddock, but there's still an initial pliancy you'll not experience in a Fiesta ST.

Bit more garnish in here smartens things up
Bit more garnish in here smartens things up
Tied down
Get it onto Oulton Park's tarmac and it just feels more tied down than the Cup chassis, hunkering into the surface, held by invisible guy ropes that keep it far flatter through the corners. Every degree of lock now counts for so much more than it does in the standard car too. Reducing the steering ratio has brought greater precision and accuracy to the front end, improvements that are further underlined by the putty rubber Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres. On those long, fast corners, such as Island and Druids, where you are on the throttle through the turn and the nose of the 200 would push wide of the apex and scrub across the tarmac, the Trophy resolutely holds its line.

Approached on the brakes, tighter corners, such as Lodge, Old Hall, Cascades, and the two chicanes are probably the most satisfying. Although you need to peer around the A-pillar in places the whole car swivels on its toes towards the clipping point, with just a relaxation on the wheel needed to maintain trajectory. That it actually feels reminiscent of the Megane Trophy-R during entry phase is high praise indeed, even if corner exits leave you pining for that addictive slingshot you get from its big brother's diff.

We quite like the chassis, then, and the gearbox is considerably improved, but the engine, despite the 20hp hike in power and 14lb ft increase in torque (it's limited in the lowest gears, remember) never feels that strong, and definitely lacks character. Sure, there's plenty of induction noise, and the reworked exhaust will sniffle and clear its throat on upshifts, but you'll not buy a Trophy for its powerplant.

Goes well, stopping not so much
Goes well, stopping not so much
Heated discussion
Nor, indeed, will you buy it for its brakes. Wearing only single-piston calipers at the front, heat build-up quickly became an issue. From similar experience in the PH Fleet 200 the warning signs were familiar and a cautious approach adopted, limiting each session to a warm-up lap, two flyers and a cool down lap. And yet, by mid-morning, three laps was all it took for the brakes to develop a deeply unpleasant juddering.

Final death throes of a previously abused set of discs and pads, or the wider consequence of an overwhelmed brake system? With the Clio Renaultsport now knocking on the power and weight of the old Megane R26, perhaps there's an argument that the Trophy's wheels should really be hiding four-piston calipers like its predecessor?

As a response to the criticisms of the Clio 200, this new Trophy definitely delivers. But you just can't shake the belief that - power hike excepted - this is how a Clio Renaultsport with a Cup chassis should drive out of the box. The improvements to drivetrain and chassis are substantial and welcome but Renaultsport's assertion the Trophy is 'aimed at track day enthusiasts' is let down by a set of brakes seemingly left behind by the car's improved pace. Brembos and a set of Recaros for the R version then?

CLIO RENAULTSPORT 220 TROPHY EDC
Engine:
1,618cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed dual-clutch auto, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 220@6,050rpm
Torque (lb ft): 207@2,000rpm
0-62mph: 6.6sec
Top speed: 146mph
Weight: 1,204kg
MPG: 47.9mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 135g/km
Price: £21,780 (Before options)

 



Photos: Ben Lowden

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NDNDNDND

Original Poster:

2,021 posts

183 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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So, it's got a better automatic gearbox?

Great.

texr2000

59 posts

109 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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Even if the Brembo 4 pots weren't better on the 197, a hot hatch today i think needs a good looking set of brakes, loss of the big arches and big brakes, i struggle to tell a RS clio from a DCi one. Im guessing the lack of them is just down to cost, or have the single pot ones moved on enough to be better than the ones on the previous model?

Frimley111R

15,661 posts

234 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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I hope they do a better job on the new Megane

Vee12V

1,333 posts

160 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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Frimley111R said:
I hope they do a better job on the new Megane
Exactly what I was going to write.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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I'd love to see the sales figures for the standard ones, and these too, in time. The Fiesta ST is a plague upon my area of residence, these however, nada, zip, squat. I'm a fairly eagle eyed car nerd and can sort the hot models from the boggo DCI a mile away but still, naff all.

loose cannon

6,030 posts

241 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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I'm always out and about in my car and I have only seen 2 on the road,seen hundreds of normal clios in that gorgeous red colour, as for festa st's I see them everywhere the guy over the road who has just moved in has a nice blue one,
We can only hope the new megane will be as good or better than the current car and please please please please
Put a manual box inside the thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Coddy85

30 posts

123 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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More reasons why I love my Audi S1.

Coddy85

30 posts

123 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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More reasons why I love my Audi S1.

Richyboy

3,739 posts

217 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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Its about as hot as an ice tea. Give me a tiny little car, manual box, revvy engine, buckets, trick dampers and most important lightweight.

172 cup with coilovers, recaros and maybe a back box; now that was a hot hatch.

j_s14a

863 posts

178 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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I think Renault would be better served by dropping the 'hot' Clios for now. I can't imagine they're selling many, and they are seriously harming RenaultSport's reputation.

Better to come back with the next generation, say "we got the last one seriously wrong, we listened to the criticism and have built something completely different". Manual gearbox, Ohlins shocks, Brembo brakes and Recaro seats, bespoke wheelarches/wings, bumpers and spoilers. The Trophy model especially should be something in the mould of the old Megane R26R, not just another trim level.


The 192 looked like a little race car, the current one looks like a Honda Jazz.

nickfrog

21,149 posts

217 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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Still haven't seen one on the road since launch, was that 2 years ago ?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Coddy85 said:
More reasons why I love my Audi S1.
Um, not really the same target market. RenaultSport cars are supposed to be for keen drivers. S1 is quick for sure but lacks feedback.

Sadly with the Clio it looks like the marketing guys have too much control.

Firsts ST still looks like the car to have in this class for driver involvement and fun.

GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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charltjr said:
Coddy85 said:
More reasons why I love my Audi S1.
Um, not really the same target market. RenaultSport cars are supposed to be for keen drivers. S1 is quick for sure but lacks feedback.

Sadly with the Clio it looks like the marketing guys have too much control.

Firsts ST still looks like the car to have in this class for driver involvement and fun.
Hmm not the same target market?

Apples and slightly more expensive apples.

nickfrog

21,149 posts

217 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Besides, this is not a marketing site, is it ?

WCZ

10,525 posts

194 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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I driven this round oulton park too, it's a big improvement from the standard car - grip levels are genuinely decent, feels fairly quick and the car has good composure

the negative points are:
the gearbox is still st
the engine sounds dull
the seats are still bad, this car is crying out for some 'pole position' recaros

I still think it'd make a good daily driver though

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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GTEYE said:
Hmm not the same target market?

Apples and slightly more expensive apples.
I wouldn't have said so really. The Audi is all about perceived build quality, rapid, secure, etc, but it's a bit numb.

The RenaultSport Clios always used to major on driver involvement and damn the rest of it, I guess maybe this iteration actually is closer in spirit to cars like the S1. Certainly the pricing of the Trophy puts it closer to the S1 although the Audi is three grand-ish more expensive which at this price point is a pretty big leap.

GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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charltjr said:
GTEYE said:
Hmm not the same target market?

Apples and slightly more expensive apples.
I wouldn't have said so really. The Audi is all about perceived build quality, rapid, secure, etc, but it's a bit numb.

The RenaultSport Clios always used to major on driver involvement and damn the rest of it, I guess maybe this iteration actually is closer in spirit to cars like the S1. Certainly the pricing of the Trophy puts it closer to the S1 although the Audi is three grand-ish more expensive which at this price point is a pretty big leap.
Unfortunately for Renault, the "damn the rest of it" ethos alienated perhaps 95% of potential buyers. In moving towards Audi's easier to live with day to day market, it seems they have now alienated the remaining 5% for whom they might once have appealed to.

New RS Clios are now an exceptionally rare sight, rarer even than GT86's!

D'oh!

BioSkunk

27 posts

103 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Brilliant little car! Very quick on all the tracks where it was already tested. Strange the issue with the brakes, no one else has reported it previously. Dual clutch is not everyones taste, but this one is quick enough already. And the chassis is wonderful and that is the most important. Much quicker on all tracks than the Fiesta ST Mountune. And even with this stiffer suspension it is much more usable for every day ride. It is good that it has 5 doors and is full with options. Perfect mix of comfort and performance. I love it! Order placed smile Waiting for delivery... I still can go for better brake pads later on. The brake itself is strong enough. That was proven already in other tests.

BioSkunk

27 posts

103 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Brilliant little car! Very quick on all the tracks where it was already tested. Strange the issue with the brakes, no one else has reported it previously. Dual clutch is not everyones taste, but this one is quick enough already. And the chassis is wonderful and that is the most important. Much quicker on all tracks than the Fiesta ST Mountune. And even with this stiffer suspension it is much more usable for every day ride. It is good that it has 5 doors and is full with options. Perfect mix of comfort and performance. I love it! Order placed smile Waiting for delivery... I still can go for better brake pads later on. The brake itself is strong enough. That was proven already in other tests.

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

157 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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I own a Megane and tbh would be tempted by one of these as I could probably buy one outright, the thing that puts me off is the lack of a diff. They're let down by it imo, some people might consider a diff is just for track day goers but at the torque even these 1.6s put out now it helps even on the road.