Mclaren P1 batteries $50K!!
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Just read an owners report in Evo magazine of his new P1 he says that the car must be put on a trickle charger (that is built in the car) if it is left for a couple of days, otherwise the batteries go flat and have to be replaced at a cost north of $50,000! So sounds like no warranty on them and makes you worry if while away you had a power cut or a blown fuse, and you cant leave it at Heathrow or wherever for the weekend. I don't think the 918 or the La Ferrari have this problem and I know Tesla don't. I realise anyone with a P1 can afford the costs but wow don't forget to plug in that charger!
Edited by Kevin-sz0nv on Tuesday 15th September 08:26
Kevin-sz0nv said:
I know Tesla don't.
They certainly did with the roadster. There was a case of a person exporting their car and by the time it arrived the batteries were dead. Tesla used to remotely monitor if you were caring for the batteries properly. They would receive an alarm if the battery was about to die. I don't know if they do this on the S thoughred_duke said:
I wonder what the lifespan of these battery packs is when looked after?
The 3yr service bill would be eye watering for most people.
The batteries on the 918 have an 8 year warranty. And the car can be left without being put on a trickle charger for a lot longer than is suggested above for its competitors. The 3yr service bill would be eye watering for most people.
Edited by red_duke on Tuesday 15th September 15:10
rjn21 said:
LaFerrari warranty on battery pack is voided (so claims a UK dealer) if it's not plugged in for >3 days. YMMV.
That is correct for LaF.For P1, the factory say battery should go unmaintained for no longer than 3-4 weeks, although they reckon it could go for a couple of months before it died. A week is no problem at all.
Cost of replacement in UK is £42,000, IIRC.
I was told that cost of battery replacement for LaF is £80k, although maybe they had the wrong currency.
Edited by flemke on Thursday 17th September 07:19
flemke said:
That is correct for LaF.
For P1, the factory say battery should go unmaintained for no longer than 3-4 weeks, although they reckon it could go for a couple of months before it died. A week is no problem at all.
Cost of replacement in UK is £42,000, IIRC.
I was told that cost of battery replacement for LaF is £80k, although maybe they had the wrong currency.
Hi Flemke For P1, the factory say battery should go unmaintained for no longer than 3-4 weeks, although they reckon it could go for a couple of months before it died. A week is no problem at all.
Cost of replacement in UK is £42,000, IIRC.
I was told that cost of battery replacement for LaF is £80k, although maybe they had the wrong currency.
Edited by flemke on Thursday 17th September 07:19
Now you have had your P1 for a while have you had any problems with it ?
Russ
The point made by Stefan about the 918, in my eyes proves exactly why the 918 is the most important car out of the three. It is the only one who's purpose is to genuinely move the automobile into the next stage of it's advancement through being a rolling test bed for the technology you will see in your average VAG models in 5 years.
patch5674 said:
The point made by Stefan about the 918, in my eyes proves exactly why the 918 is the most important car out of the three. It is the only one who's purpose is to genuinely move the automobile into the next stage of it's advancement through being a rolling test bed for the technology you will see in your average VAG models in 5 years.
Wonder if they're using it to test new emissions software?ilovevolvo said:
flemke said:
That is correct for LaF.
For P1, the factory say battery should go unmaintained for no longer than 3-4 weeks, although they reckon it could go for a couple of months before it died. A week is no problem at all.
Cost of replacement in UK is £42,000, IIRC.
I was told that cost of battery replacement for LaF is £80k, although maybe they had the wrong currency.
Hi Flemke For P1, the factory say battery should go unmaintained for no longer than 3-4 weeks, although they reckon it could go for a couple of months before it died. A week is no problem at all.
Cost of replacement in UK is £42,000, IIRC.
I was told that cost of battery replacement for LaF is £80k, although maybe they had the wrong currency.
Edited by flemke on Thursday 17th September 07:19
Now you have had your P1 for a while have you had any problems with it ?
Russ
patch5674 said:
The point made by Stefan about the 918, in my eyes proves exactly why the 918 is the most important car out of the three. It is the only one who's purpose is to genuinely move the automobile into the next stage of it's advancement through being a rolling test bed for the technology you will see in your average VAG models in 5 years.
I'm not knocking the 918, which is beautifully made, but your description of its relevance is exactly what one could have said about the 959 30 years ago. The problem with such things is that they tend to be a demonstration of technological advancement, rather than a demonstration of the enjoyment of driving.crostonian said:
patch5674 said:
The point made by Stefan about the 918, in my eyes proves exactly why the 918 is the most important car out of the three. It is the only one who's purpose is to genuinely move the automobile into the next stage of it's advancement through being a rolling test bed for the technology you will see in your average VAG models in 5 years.
Wonder if they're using it to test new emissions software?patch5674 said:
The point made by Stefan about the 918, in my eyes proves exactly why the 918 is the most important car out of the three. It is the only one who's purpose is to genuinely move the automobile into the next stage of it's advancement through being a rolling test bed for the technology you will see in your average VAG models in 5 years.
??Nonsense, all three have similar technology, just partly used in slighly diff. ways.
DeltonaS said:
patch5674 said:
The point made by Stefan about the 918, in my eyes proves exactly why the 918 is the most important car out of the three. It is the only one who's purpose is to genuinely move the automobile into the next stage of it's advancement through being a rolling test bed for the technology you will see in your average VAG models in 5 years.
??Nonsense, all three have similar technology, just partly used in slighly diff. ways.
Alfa numeric said:
The LaF can be plugged in. The one I saw at Graypaul in Birmingham was plugged in while I was looking at it.
Plugged into a battery conditioner/ trickle charger that if it is not plugged into for more than 3 days then the warranty is void - No such necessities are required with the 918, it can be left parked for weeks on end without hassle, unlike the far more highly strung LaF. Which brings me back to my original point of it being the far more important car for the future of the automobile. I make no claim as to which is objectively the better car, just that in my opinion the 918 is a real testbed for the future of Porsche, something that is alluded to by Chris Harris who has written about how the 918 is constantly evolving through software updates and ECU recalibration. The recently unveiled Mission E, is also clearly something learnt from the 918/919 projects...
h0b0 said:
They certainly did with the roadster. There was a case of a person exporting their car and by the time it arrived the batteries were dead. Tesla used to remotely monitor if you were caring for the batteries properly. They would receive an alarm if the battery was about to die. I don't know if they do this on the S though
They do. They all phone-home apparantly and will go to the car and plug it in for you if you leave it unplugged and it goes below some threshold.Gassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff