RE: Ford Mondeo BTCC: You Know You Want To

RE: Ford Mondeo BTCC: You Know You Want To

Wednesday 23rd September 2015

Ford Mondeo BTCC: You Know You Want To

What's better than one Super Touring V6 Mondeo? Two of them!



Ford's history in British Touring Cars is long and illustrious, with success stretching right back to the inauguration of the series in the 50s; the second champion of British Touring Cars was Jeff Uren in a Ford Zephyr Six.

Bring back the 90s!
Bring back the 90s!
Then through Cortinas, Escorts, Capris and Sierras, Ford took many more victories, while also capturing the hearts and minds of racing fans across the country. How many Escort and Sierra purchases will have been swayed by sons wanting their dads to be their touring car heroes? A few, hopefully.

BTCC fans will all have their favourite era, the years growing up where the drivers were their idols and the cars as cool as any Ferrari. For me that was the late 90s, just catching the Super Tourers before the 2001 rule change. Rydell, Aiello, Menu et al in Vectras, S40s, Primeras, Accords and more. Arguably the mid-90s were even better but it was pretty fantastic for me.

So to see a pair of cars from the era for sale is especially exciting. The Mondeo was always notable in the BTCC for having a V6; the four-cylinder cars screaming to over 8,000rpm were cool but a V6 was something else again, even when you're nine. Need a reminder? See here.

Some great names on there
Some great names on there
Unfortunately these cars aren't from the glorious 1-2-3 season in 2000, instead chassis numbers two and three from the 1999 campaign. There were a few podiums between them but nothing like the dominance of the year after. The cars for 1999 and 2000 were built by Prodrive, with one extra built in '99 for display in the Millennium Dome...

Looking over these now it's easy to forget how specialised the Super Tourers were. See how low and far back the driver sits, the amount of carbon everywhere and the incredible stance, wheels jammed right in the arches. There's even a load of spares with them too so there's no excuse not to drive.

Even more encouraging is that there is a championship for these cars; the Super Touring Trophy runs alongside the BTCC at certain events, giving the cars from 1991-2000 a chance to stretch their legs. Failing that, they would surely be brilliant on test days and hill climbs, as chassis number two has been used for recently. What better way to enjoy being very wealthy than arriving at a track with a mate and your own BTCC Mondeo? They're only being sold as a pair after all...


FORD MONDEO BTCC
Price
: £250,000
Why you should: A racer from a great era of touring cars. Two of them!
Why you shouldn't: £250K for two Ford Mondeos

See the original advert here

[Source: STT]







   
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joe_90

Original Poster:

4,206 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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What is that in the back of one of the cars, the carbon thing linking the arches and the two 'things' feeding into them.. Brake cooling/Adjustable suspension?

MustardCutter

238 posts

120 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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The mondeos must have got successful after I stopped following it, I always remembered them being poop. It would have to be one of Alan Menu's Lagunas, one of the silver and red A4's that joined the championship and destroyed everything with 4WD until they had to be gimped by weight penalty to offset the advantage, or maybe the Texaco liveried Sierra. Aaaah the memories...

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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You'd need to be the sort of person who would not miss spending £250k on a pair of Mondeos to be able to afford to run them at anything like race pace.

Nice addition to your garage but I can think of many more I buy before these.

BricktopST205

898 posts

134 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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The Ford was only dominant because Nissan/RML and Volvo/TWR left at the end of 1999 tongue out.

Would much rather have one of these!



Edited by BricktopST205 on Wednesday 23 September 11:49

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

157 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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Re the comments about the driver position I've had the opportunity to look around the Laguna super tourer quite a few times that's in Renaults collection in the UK and not only is the driver well set back but the engines so far back in the car it nearly sat in the dash, or seems that way.

Brilliant cars all of them, wish I'd been old enough to appreciate them when they were racing.

TommoAE86

2,666 posts

127 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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Used to watch this era religeously and it really helped cement my love of cars (being only 6 when I started watching).

LotusOmega375D

7,608 posts

153 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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Didn't "Our Nige" (with a little help from Tiff Needell) famously slam an older version of these into a bridge at Donington? Wonder if that was ever restored?

TIGA84

5,206 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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Prefer this and £120k to run it like it should be....

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/motorsport/...


SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

163 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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GrumpyTwig said:
Re the comments about the driver position I've had the opportunity to look around the Laguna super tourer quite a few times that's in Renaults collection in the UK and not only is the driver well set back but the engines so far back in the car it nearly sat in the dash, or seems that way.

Brilliant cars all of them, wish I'd been old enough to appreciate them when they were racing.
I seem to remember a bit on one of the BTCC build ups (or it may have been in EVO) where they were talking about the BTCC Vectra and said the engine was so much smaller and further back that it basically took up the space of the glovebox on the road car.

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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TommoAE86 said:
Used to watch this era religeously and it really helped cement my love of cars (being only 6 when I started watching).
Same. cool

Anyone know the purpose of the solid rear wheels shown in the linked video? Always thought they looked awesome...even though the Mk2 Mondeo was hideous, the front looking like a froggy Scorpio that'd been sat on by an elephant.

Eighteeteewhy

7,259 posts

168 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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250k for a car that flys seems good value!


Jonesy23

4,650 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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The Supertouring cars were really interesting as a bit of engineering. Like running the drive shaft through the V on the Mondeo.

The bit that's got really interesting to me has been the sheer amount of cheating that's been discovered since these got into private hands and the race parts could be compared to the production bits they were supposed to be based on; not just the 'production' shells and panels that were actually completely different but using completely different engine castings where the only bit that actually matched the proper part was the ID numbers (e.g. the Audi heads, but *not* something clever like the modified Volvo ones). The whole scrutineering process must have been bent as most of it was obvious with a side by side comparison.

JonoG81

384 posts

105 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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LotusOmega375D said:
Didn't "Our Nige" (with a little help from Tiff Needell) famously slam an older version of these into a bridge at Donington? Wonder if that was ever restored?
Sure did, TOCA shootout in the peeing down rain if I remember correctly.

tylerama

311 posts

207 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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joe_90 said:
What is that in the back of one of the cars, the carbon thing linking the arches and the two 'things' feeding into them.. Brake cooling/Adjustable suspension?
I think the metal cylinders are offboard fluid reservoirs for the adjustable suspension. The cylinders are just mounted there on part of the rollcage, they feed into the suspension strut via the 'tube' that comes out the top of them and disappears into the top of the wheelarch. The metal box in the centre I think is some sort of control box and the thing on the right is a Safety Devices extinguisher, that probably feeds into the cabin and/or the engine bay.


Edited by tylerama on Wednesday 23 September 14:43

ambuletz

10,733 posts

181 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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not worthit when you consider the price of replacing the front bumper.

MG CHRIS

9,083 posts

167 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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Jonesy23 said:
The Supertouring cars were really interesting as a bit of engineering. Like running the drive shaft through the V on the Mondeo.

The bit that's got really interesting to me has been the sheer amount of cheating that's been discovered since these got into private hands and the race parts could be compared to the production bits they were supposed to be based on; not just the 'production' shells and panels that were actually completely different but using completely different engine castings where the only bit that actually matched the proper part was the ID numbers (e.g. the Audi heads, but *not* something clever like the modified Volvo ones). The whole scrutineering process must have been bent as most of it was obvious with a side by side comparison.
The biggest ones were twr with the Volvos it was only when they went to Australia under private hands after needing a new windscreen. They went to the dealership to get glass for the same car thinking it would fit well it was 3 inches to big for the race car. The cars in the later years were mental creations very technical and advanced for the time but for a national touring car series with manufactures dropping out it almost killed the btcc name doing so.

jontbone

214 posts

219 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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The company I work for did a land survey of Prodrive Banbury during the 1-2-3 season. It just so happened that the one day I went to site we were surveying the test track there and the 3 Mondeos of Menu, Rydell & Reid were being put through their paces. I couldn't believe my luck! Made what would have normally been quite a monotonous day into rather an interesting one. Unfortunately my cack phone of the time didn't have a camera!

m444ttb

3,160 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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Were thee cars costing something like £250k a piece at the time to build? It was a great era but no wonder it nearly finished the BTCC off and that following years were boring (in my opinion).

Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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Eighteeteewhy said:
250k for a car that flys seems good value!

Pretty clever, getting that off the ground but still keeping the beer can balanced on the roof.

Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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They're not exactly identical. I wonder why.