RE: BMW M4: PH Fleet

Wednesday 23rd September 2015

BMW M4: PH Fleet

Further tyre abuse for the M4 as it faces rivals for a drag race and then goes head to head with the AMG-C63



4.1 seconds. That's how long 'my' DCT-equipped BMW M4 should take to reach 62mph. On the runway of RAF Alconbury, previous occupants the US Air Force, it felt more like four minutes. Four very spectacular minutes, granted, with what little remains of the rear Michelin Pilot Sports vapourised into smoke or left in thick black lines on the abrasive concrete. More smoke than igniting the near £700 of notes the BMW dealer would want for two rears? Possibly. I had plenty of time to reflect on this as my rivals in the PH/Autocar drag race extravaganza repeatedly disappeared into the distance anyway.

"On green I'm go.. hang on, where's the light?"
"On green I'm go.. hang on, where's the light?"
What does this prove, other than I am rubbish at standing starts and now absolutely, definitely need new rear tyres for the M4? I'm more into corners than straight lines to be honest but it was quite a revealing exercise in terms of how hard it is to balance the power delivery of the turbo'd straight-six, be that in a straight line or with the car sideways.

There is a launch control function on the car but even then it was lighting up the rear tyres and leaving black lines for a good 20 metres before the electronics supposedly governing the tyre slip managed to get a grip on the situation. It seems a little fussy about when and how often it'll let you use it though, meaning for many of the runs I was on my own.

Won't win drag races, will win drift offs
Won't win drag races, will win drift offs
As has been (much) discussed all M's laudable attempts to build an engine that disguises the supposed downsides of forced induction has created a motor of considerable complexity. The two small turbos spool up so fast and boost so savagely that breaking traction is all too easy - peak torque at 1,850rpm will do that. It takes real subtlety and a right foot more delicate than mine to find that narrow sweet spot between all or nothing that gives you the best of the engine without bonfiring the tyres. But once the boost is on you've got peak torque until 5,500rpm and a lovely linear spread to play with. You've just got to manage that initial jolt.

In a straight line race it's a nightmare though. Too much too soon and you spin up. Back out and try modulating the throttle back in and - boom - soon as the boost comes back you're spinning the wheels again. Short shifting helps the initial traction but then - wham - the boost comes in even more violently.

More to follow on this soon...
More to follow on this soon...
Ach, it's all a bit meaningless really because who drives their personal car like this? And having to learn an engine's character is the kind of challenge I like. It's anything but dull and there are sublime moments in this car when you successfully manage that initial spike, ride out that huge mid range and just hold the car on the cusp of breaking traction out of a roundabout or corner with the active diff and stability control giving you just a hint of slide. I return to my pet hate of the fake noise but it would be a lot easier to understand what the engine is up to if you were getting real sound directly proportional to throttle opening and load. It's so frustrating because it sounds brilliant from the outside.

There are advantages to that new engine compared with its predecessor though. Regular long-haul travel down the M1 with a bit of A5 and A43 to liven up the middle before M40/M25 and suburban schlep will see it return around 30mpg which is, I think, reasonable given the state of tune. And sci-fi to those with experience of the old V8.

... and this too actually!
... and this too actually!
Rightly this is a car dominated by its engine though, and it's one I'm still learning how to make the most of. It's a fascinating process and full of reward; long-term tests are about discovering the hidden depths launch drives or regular loans don't reveal. Moreover, even though I've had a bit of a purple patch of bookings recently, hopping between some very special cars, I always feel a little spark of excitement as I unlock the M4 and leave the door open to hear that fierce cold-start bark. Small but important signs of emotional bonding an M product like this should inspire. It's not a perfect car. But it's one growing in my affections with every passing week and reveals more of itself over time.

How does it compare with the C63 you're wondering? More on that in due course... First, those tyres. And, no, I'm not going to be paying dealer prices.


FACT SHEET
Car:
 BMW M4
Run by: Dan 
On fleet since: June 2015
Mileage: 7,641
List price new: £73,870 (Basic list of £57,055 plus £1,330 for Black Merino leather, £545 for advanced parking package, £2,645 for 7-speed M DCT transmission, £6,250 for carbon ceramic brakes, £175 for 19" M Double-spoke style 437M alloy wheels/Black with mixed tyres, £265 for sun protection glass, £155 for extended storage, £140 for sliding front armrest, £440 for lane change warning system, £395 for Carbon Fibre interior trim, £1,600 for Adaptive LED headlights, £370 for driving assistant, £500 surround view, £825 Head-up display, £675 Harman/Kardon Loudspeaker system, £95 internet and £190 for online entertainment)
Last month at a glance: "Some tyres were harmed in the making of this film"

Previous reports
Dan wanted an M3, gets an M4 instead - what to do?!
It started so well... and now the M4 is in the bodyshop
Finally back from the bodyshop; time to drive!

Drag race photos: Luc Lacey via Autocar, M4 vs C63: Chris Teagles

Author
Discussion

s2000db

Original Poster:

1,155 posts

153 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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You know that you can adjust the rpm for launch control, using the cruise control rocker?

jeremyc

23,432 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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s2000db said:
You know that you can adjust the rpm for launch control, using the cruise control rocker?
Pfft. You don't expect them to have read the manual, do you? wink

The PH team at Sunday Service couldn't even get the bonnet open, so I don't hold out much hope for launching quickly off the line. hehe

renaultgeek

473 posts

148 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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sounds like the article is trying really hard not to say anything bad about the car.

thelawnet1

1,539 posts

155 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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"4.1 seconds. That's how long 'my' DCT-equipped BMW M4 should take to reach 62mph. On the runway of RAF Alconbury, previous occupants the US Air Force, it felt more like four minutes. "

So how long did it take?

Article: fail.

Wills2

22,785 posts

175 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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Sounds like fun! Anyone with any experience of SMG/DCT M cars knows that the launch control gives neither a launch nor control, it's just not what they are about.


dc2rr07

1,238 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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thelawnet1 said:
"4.1 seconds. That's how long 'my' DCT-equipped BMW M4 should take to reach 62mph. On the runway of RAF Alconbury, previous occupants the US Air Force, it felt more like four minutes. "

So how long did it take?

Article: fail.
+1, what was the time

Anyway maybe 4wd would help you out

s2000db

Original Poster:

1,155 posts

153 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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Well if you know what you're doing, 0-60 in 3.7, and 0-100 in 8.5... tongue out

Btw launch at 2500rpm..

Edited by s2000db on Thursday 24th September 08:24


Edited by s2000db on Thursday 24th September 08:25

big_rob_sydney

3,401 posts

194 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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Farking HOW much for an m3??? That cant be launched???!??

nickfrog

21,095 posts

217 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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£57k minus 15% discount and very high std spec is superb value. Have they ever been that cheap when inflation is factored in ?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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£74,000 for a 3-series coupe? BMW must be laughing all the way to the bank.

russy01

4,693 posts

181 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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What a crap article. Just release the proper thing with C63 content.

sealtt

3,091 posts

158 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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nickfrog said:
£57k minus 15% discount and very high std spec is superb value. Have they ever been that cheap when inflation is factored in ?
Interesting question. Not sure about E36 or E30 prices when new, but looks like it is by a good 10% the cheapest starting price inflation adjusted in recent generations.

M4: £57k (2014) = £57k (2014)
E92: £50k (2007) = £65k (2014)
E46: £40k (2000) = £62k (2014)


nickfrog

21,095 posts

217 months

Saturday 26th September 2015
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Ozzie Osmond said:
£74,000 for a 3-series coupe? BMW must be laughing all the way to the bank.
They are £48.5k after discount. You make it sound like they are 50% more than actual transaction price. Why ?

sealtt

3,091 posts

158 months

Saturday 26th September 2015
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nickfrog said:
They are £48.5k after discount. You make it sound like they are 50% more than actual transaction price. Why ?
are they doing that much discount? I wonder what the regular options spend is on top.

Bmw site only shows a couple of grand discount readily availble. Plus with the carbon ceramics and a few other choice options it's very easily £65k-£70k even with some discount. I don't think there are many people at all, if any, paying £48.5k for these.

Edited by sealtt on Saturday 26th September 00:33

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Saturday 26th September 2015
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Launching an M car is like launching a space shuttle, overly complicated.

nickfrog

21,095 posts

217 months

Saturday 26th September 2015
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sealtt said:
nickfrog said:
They are £48.5k after discount. You make it sound like they are 50% more than actual transaction price. Why ?
are they doing that much discount? I wonder what the regular options spend is on top.

Bmw site only shows a couple of grand discount readily availble. Plus with the carbon ceramics and a few other choice options it's very easily £65k-£70k even with some discount. I don't think there are many people at all, if any, paying £48.5k for these.

Edited by sealtt on Saturday 26th September 00:33
They are doing that much discount. The amount of unnecessary gadgets that some people put on it is totally irrelevant as none are compulsory. Particularly the Ceramic brakes. For the first time, the iron jobs are perfectly up to the task, they even take a few hot laps in their stride.