RE: Rollin' Coal: Time For Tea?

RE: Rollin' Coal: Time For Tea?

Thursday 24th September 2015

Rollin' Coal: Time For Tea?

More smokey than bandit, and not an EPA emissions test in sight!



We'll understand if you've already grown bored of the story of Volkwagen's attempts to cheat US emissions standards with its diesel models. Having sunk its teeth in the more mainstream media doesn't show any sign of letting go; by the end of the week don't be surprised if we're reading reports about a bloke in Nuneaton planning to sue over the fact his Passat only does 39mpg.

Anyway, here's something that proves Americans aren't always quite so concerned about emissions produced by diesel vehicles. The trend for "rolling coal" is a strange and anti-social one; basically doctoring diesel engined trucks to spew out the maximum amount of soot and clag, with the intended targets of such fume-based thuggery often being those with the temerity to drive a Prius or other hybrid.

Yet here's proof that the US diesel tuning culture does have another purpose: creating some amusingly fast pick-up trucks. Yes, they might give off more smoke than an oilwell fire, but it's hard not to be impressed by something this size and shape that's capable of running a sub-9 second quarter mile without spark plugs. They should put one of these in for EPA testing and see what the NOx figures look like...

Watch the video here.

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Goofnik

Original Poster:

216 posts

140 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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American here.

Most of the trucks that "roll coal" aren't for the drag strip, and will never see one. They're most common in the midwest, southern Appalachia, and the southeast/south (rare in the northeast and west coast). They're usually lifted by 8cm or more, and dual rear-wheels and a wider rear end will exist if the owner could afford it. They're not intended to be fast (if most could break into the 14s in the 1/4 mile, I'd be surprised). They're just intended to produce a lot of smoke and noise, on demand.

I don't "get it", but just clarifying that they rarely are about performance. It's purely an "image thing" and a bit of antiestablishmentarianism.

Edited by Goofnik on Thursday 24th September 16:38

thelawnet1

1,539 posts

155 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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Is that the 2016 VW Jetta?

_dobbo_

14,370 posts

248 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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Here's how it's done in the UK, not quite the same spectacle but so much more fun smile


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbkQDi57nig

AlexHat

1,327 posts

119 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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The main picture just shows a couple of VW pickups right? smile

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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The thing is, big diesel trucks and tuning them is nothing new in the US. It's been happening for a long time, and at least 20 years for serious output.

Magazine if anyone's interested in such things:
http://www.trucktrend.com/diesel-power-magazine/


As for the UK, well we don't have the silly saying and our trucks aren't as big or powerful. But they can still be made to smoke..


justanother5tar

1,314 posts

125 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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_dobbo_ said:
Here's how it's done in the UK, not quite the same spectacle but so much more fun smile


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbkQDi57nig
Yeah but Darksides Arosa is fking insane.

Very few TDi cars like that around!

matchmaker

8,481 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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Dr JonboyG

2,561 posts

239 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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I also live in the US. Most aholes who roll coal don't do it for any other reason than they're antisocial wkers who like leaving giant clouds of black smoke in their wake, particularly if you're driving behind them in something with the roof down. Ought to be cause for public flogging IMO.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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Continental Europe seems to do a pretty good job with smoky diesels too biggrin



djdest

6,542 posts

178 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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I'm not American, but thought rolling coal meant stuff like this, not sub 10 second quarters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZe7EPMTwSA

otolith

56,011 posts

204 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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djdest said:
I'm not American, but thought rolling coal meant stuff like this, not sub 10 second quarters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZe7EPMTwSA
Antisocial cockwombles!

justanother5tar

1,314 posts

125 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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djdest said:
I'm not American, but thought rolling coal meant stuff like this, not sub 10 second quarters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZe7EPMTwSA
+1.

Always thought 'rollin coal' was a term used by the idiots with smoker kits and stack pipes.

Most of the high HP diesels will only smoke until the (usually HUGE) turbo comes on boost, at which point they burn relatively clean when there is enough air being forced in to use all the fuel being thrown in.

ETA; you can even see that in the video. Car starts, lots of smoke. You can hear the turbo spool up, and the smoke stops.

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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matchmaker said:
lol! (and goodness, gracious... locomotives galore)

dc2rr07

1,238 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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biglaughbouncebiglaugh
300bhp/ton said:
Continental Europe seems to do a pretty good job with smoky diesels too biggrin


I am sure your local VW dealer could get that through the MOT for you, allegedly biglaugh

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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fkwits.

dudleybloke

19,800 posts

186 months

pti

1,697 posts

144 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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Americans are stupid.

dino ferrana

791 posts

252 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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I think this stems from the utter inability of the general population to separate out climate change and air quality. Because the republican lot and particularly the tea party loons see climate change as a conspiracy or scam, they reject anything to do with improving the environment. This leads to the general public getting the same general impression of any measures to improve “emissions”, which most people just think of in terms of CO2.

These lobotomised individuals are incredibly selfish and stupid! This is not an accidental result of tuning, but a deliberate aim to create a cloud of carcinogens and NOx for everyone to breathe. There have been talks of action on this in some states, I think after a politician was blasted by one of these oxygen thieves while driving an electric car.

SirSquidalot

4,040 posts

165 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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Not gonna lie, i bloody love these trucks. There's just something amazing about a truck that can pull such numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wdG3d4VFJA

That vid is a tuner challenge in the US and has some impressive figures.

Fastdruid

8,631 posts

152 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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_dobbo_ said:
Here's how it's done in the UK, not quite the same spectacle but so much more fun smile


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbkQDi57nig
Commentator: "Difficult to believe it's diesel but it is".

Er how about the fug-off black smokescreen that nearly hides it! It couldn't be more obviously a diesel!