RE: Volkswagen Golf R: PH Fleet

RE: Volkswagen Golf R: PH Fleet

Friday 2nd October 2015

Volkswagen Golf R: PH Fleet

What could be better than our Golf R? One with a bigger boot maybe, or perhaps another with 450hp...



It's loads easier to write about a bad car. To be fair, at the other end of the scale heaping praise on an exceptional vehicle isn't all that hard either. But when a car comes along that simply cracks on with being very good at the expense of character - positive or negative - it's more of a challenge.

For all the R's much-discussed abilities many people just struggle to be excited by it. The reality is Volkswagen played it all a touch too safe, apparently missing the point that enthusiasts crave just a sense of involvement on top of the whole crushing, all-conditions performance thing the R does so well.


Thank heavens for the thriving VW tuning aftermarket then.

I'm lucky enough to have driven some extremely accelerative cars in my time, but even so I was a bit taken a back the first time I planted the throttle in Revo's re-worked Golf R. Truth be told, we only borrowed the car from them for a quick comparison to our standard car, but a few hours and a lot of giggling later we'd extended the loan and decided that it deserved a standalone review.

Effectively Revo has given the R some teeth with some chassis fettling and minor modifications to the engine. I say minor, the word I should have used is bonkers. It turns out that giving a Golf R 450hp makes it really quite exciting. You read that right. Four hundred and fifty horsepower. I find this ridiculous even as I type it, but the chassis can more than cope and make use of the power, giving a clear view of why the standard 300hp can feel a bit underwhelming.

This marriage of extreme power levels and incredible traction means 0-62 in a supercar-bothering 3.4 seconds. That's not a made up time either - we tried it ourselves with our trusty V-Box. Combined with the chassis modifications this 'Stage III' car answers pretty much all of the questions I had about the standard car, and raises a few new ones. Like which supercar we'd most like to see it out-drag.


Also this month, the Golf faced a challenge from within as I spent some time in the newly launched R Estate. As Matt discovered in his initial drive it is unsurprisingly very similar to the standard car. The additional mass over the rear axle does blunt acceleration and the handling fractionally. On the plus side, whilst it isn't as eager to turn in, it does feel like it has more character with a touch more throttle adjustability in the form of lift-off oversteer as the chassis works hard to try and rein in that more pendulous (and impressively big) estate body.

On the subject of the body, to my eyes it actually looks better than the standard car and - whisper it - somehow four exhaust pipes are slightly more acceptable on an estate. And they sound slightly better than the hatch too, with a noticeable raspy burble on full throttle upshifts. Now, I freely admit I'm a sucker for a fast estate car but too me this means I'd happily stump up the £695 extra over a five-door DSG hatch. And then I'd take it to the good folks at Revo. Now there is a combination I'd like to try.


FACT SHEET
Car:
 2015 Volkswagen Golf R
Run by: James
On fleet since: March 2015
Mileage: 11,107
List price new: £32,220 (£36,055 as tested including £895 for 19-inch 'Pretoria' wheels, £1,765 for Discover Pro Nav, £815 for Dynamic Chassis Control dampers and £360 for Winter Pack).
Last month at a glance: What's better than a Golf R? A Golf R!

Previous updates:
All The Internet owns one, now PH has a Golf R!

Golf R great everyday; who'd have thought?

Track test for the Golf and it's fairly ace there too

Launch control on a Golf?

Getting rid of the electrical demons and planning more power











Photos: Ben Lowden

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Discussion

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

30,614 posts

180 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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450bhp! yikes

I can see the estate model selling well too.

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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450 bhp is really quite bonkers but I can't imagine the engine would last very long with that tune.
Do you have torque figures? I couldn't find anything on the revo website and blog.

I know http://www.hgp-turbo.de does similar tuning but when I searched the forums for real life experiences, it seemed like the engines had a tendency to go pop after 20000 km

Rafeabrook

105 posts

129 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Interesting point on the engine noise from the wagon there.

I read elsewhere that VW claim it's not faked on the estate, unlike the hatch.

I only test drove the R hatch for a short run and that was a few months before taking delivery of my R Estate, so I can't really compare, however my estate does sound a lot like a flat four boxer engine, and if it is fake, then it's a convincing job well done!

I know the joke is that the Estate version IS 'the internet' but I really can't fault it as a daily, family proposition - especially given the very cheap lease deal I took it on.

So much win.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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So, no clue as to what they've done to it to get 450hp, or the cost involved? Nope? Nothing? Ah well, we can just guess I suppose, or make it up or break open some fortune cookies and see if we can find the answer in there.

kmack

157 posts

133 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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I hope that power upgrade doesn't effect the emissions too much as VW went to a lot of trouble to keep them low...

JD PH

2,670 posts

117 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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xRIEx said:
So, no clue as to what they've done to it to get 450hp, or the cost involved? Nope? Nothing? Ah well, we can just guess I suppose, or make it up or break open some fortune cookies and see if we can find the answer in there.
Sorry - I did write in my initial copy that there is a full story with all the details coming very soon (price, specs, availability etc) but that didn't make it past the subs!

So, to be clear.... There is a full story on the Revo car coming soon!

JD

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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JD PH said:
xRIEx said:
So, no clue as to what they've done to it to get 450hp, or the cost involved? Nope? Nothing? Ah well, we can just guess I suppose, or make it up or break open some fortune cookies and see if we can find the answer in there.
Sorry - I did write in my initial copy that there is a full story with all the details coming very soon (price, specs, availability etc) but that didn't make it past the subs!

So, to be clear.... There is a full story on the Revo car coming soon!

JD
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epom

11,520 posts

161 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Wheels on the black car make it look much tougher also. Are they Revo's own wheels ?

Betty Cumberdale

163 posts

134 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Good luck with the turbo, seems a reliable tune.

JD PH

2,670 posts

117 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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epom said:
Wheels on the black car make it look much tougher also. Are they Revo's own wheels ?
They certainly are - and aside from looking good they save a shed load of weight too. Again details to follow soon in the full article (Editor Trent is probably sat at his type writer putting the story together at this very moment.... It really is a bonkers car, and it MIGHT be putting in an appearance at the upcoming Silverstone Trackday / Sunday Service for some passenger rides)

JD

ZX10R NIN

27,607 posts

125 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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EricE said:
450 bhp is really quite bonkers but I can't imagine the engine would last very long with that tune.
Do you have torque figures? I couldn't find anything on the revo website and blog.

I know http://www.hgp-turbo.de does similar tuning but when I searched the forums for real life experiences, it seemed like the engines had a tendency to go pop after 20000 km
Why is it when people see tuned cars they assume they'll go bang, I've had plenty of tuned engines & covered big miles without a problem if a car is tuned correctly they will last, yes they take more maintenance but tuning doesn't mean engine problems.



Ali_T

3,379 posts

257 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
Why is it when people see tuned cars they assume they'll go bang, I've had plenty of tuned engines & covered big miles without a problem if a car is tuned correctly they will last, yes they take more maintenance but tuning doesn't mean engine problems.
Because most tuned cars are just remaps and do go bang because noone bothered to replace the internals with better quality parts. I'd hope that Revo car has forged pistons at the very least.

ZX10R NIN

27,607 posts

125 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Ali_T said:
Because most tuned cars are just remaps and do go bang because noone bothered to replace the internals with better quality parts. I'd hope that Revo car has forged pistons at the very least.
Again just a decent remap doesn't make your car go bang, most remaps add between only add between 30-60bhp nothing that will overly stress the engine.

JonoG81

384 posts

105 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Ali_T said:
Because most tuned cars are just remaps and do go bang because noone bothered to replace the internals with better quality parts. I'd hope that Revo car has forged pistons at the very least.
You won't be getting 150 horses from a remap alone, there is bound to be some form of internal engine work carried out as well

s m

23,226 posts

203 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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JD PH said:
xRIEx said:
So, no clue as to what they've done to it to get 450hp, or the cost involved? Nope? Nothing? Ah well, we can just guess I suppose, or make it up or break open some fortune cookies and see if we can find the answer in there.
Sorry - I did write in my initial copy that there is a full story with all the details coming very soon (price, specs, availability etc) but that didn't make it past the subs!

So, to be clear.... There is a full story on the Revo car coming soon!

JD
If you recorded the 0-100 figure on the Vbox as well, it would be interesting to see it in with the full story

Ali_T

3,379 posts

257 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
Again just a decent remap doesn't make your car go bang, most remaps add between only add between 30-60bhp nothing that will overly stress the engine.
Tell that to EJ25 owners....

ZX10R NIN

27,607 posts

125 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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What do I need to tell them to go to a decent tuner?

redroadster

1,739 posts

232 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Can revo warrant there work,if so that's an impressive performance pack will be interesting if they can do same to new focus rs which is thousands cheaper to start with.

longbow

1,610 posts

235 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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JD PH said:
it MIGHT be putting in an appearance at the upcoming Silverstone Trackday / Sunday Service for some passenger rides)

JD
Awesome... I'll give you a wave as I go by hehe

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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The more I see of the estate the more I like it. I almost wish I'd ordered one instead of the hatchback.