RE: Shed Of The Week: Citroen Saxo VTR

RE: Shed Of The Week: Citroen Saxo VTR

Saturday 5th December 2015

Shed Of The Week: Citroen Saxo VTR

Somebody snap this tasty looking Saxo up before it becomes an accessory to murder!



Shed likes murder mysteries. Not because they are entertaining, but because they are a useful source of ideas. One plot line Agatha Christie never came up with was the idea of buying a car for one's 'beloved' that would not offer much protection in the event of an 'accident', ahum. With this is mind, Shed is lining up this enticingly flimsy Citroen Saxo for Mrs Shed. His only worry about the deal is that he might end up being stricken by remorse after her unfortunate demise. You don't see many unbarried VTRs about the place, after all.


Put the best part of 100hp into a 920kg car and only those already lacking a pulse will fail to have fun. Yes, the 16-valve VTS motor is springier to the tune of 20hp, but you'll still feel the blood running back into your cheeks behind the wheel of a VTR. The steering is direct and the chassis supple.

That licence to thrill is boosted by the knowledge that the VTR engine is as tough as the old boots typically worn by Saxo owners. Small boots, ideally, as there's not much room in the off-kilter footwell. You do need to exercise some care with the gearbox, but the cambelt is a fit-and-forget item with an 80,000-mile life expectancy.

Our '02 car is the facelifted model with the headlamp-integrated indicators, new tail lights, more rounded bonnet and wings. At the time it was built, it was the UK's number one selling hot hatch, and indeed the cheapest, which partly explained its popularity and fully explained the nastiness of its cabin plastics.


Every fule kno that Saxo rear axles are made of cheese, but they are also not much more expensive, with recon items costing a reasonable £200. A couple of hours labour by your local monkey fitting it and bleeding the brakes should see you getting out of there for not much more than £300 all in. A new beam won't protect her, sorry you, in an accident, but it should tighten up any floppiness in the handllng and therefore help to avoid an accident in the first place. Primary safety, they call it.

Will our SOTW even need a new beam, though? With just 59k miles up and a full Citroen service history in the glovebox, this sweet-looking black number may well be exempt not only from the cheese-axle thing but also from the other traits typically afflicting this model, such as leaky sunroofs and rusty rear arches - and to be fair, just about every car that appears in SOTW is prone to those. The same could be said for driveshafts, wishbones, exhausts, power steering pumps and clutches. At this stage in any car's life they've got to be seen as consumables.


Fans of originality will like the fact that the only mod to this car is to the head unit. Unless it's a Binatone or some such, you can't really complain about that. In any case, if you're desperate to preserve that factory-fresh look you can always hammer the original item back into its hole.

Lack of maintenance is the usual cause of trouble with this type of car. Check the oil filler cap for mayo and the coolant for signs that it's been changed more often than once a century. Again the full service history should be your friend. 40mpg is easily attainable, and even hard use shouldn't drop it below 30mpg. Insurance is fair and about three groups below the VTS.

Another advantage the VTR has over the VTS is that it doesn't have anti-lock braking, making this NCAP two-star rated car even more attractive to Shed. If you want to prevent a murder, get in quick.

Here's the ad.

1 owner from new. Full service history as detailed below (all bar one via Citroen dealerships). MOT recently completed so 11 months remaining until September 2016. I have every tax disc, every MOT and all bills for any work completed on the car for the 13 years I've owned it. Current mileage is 59,220. Interior is immaculate, paint in good order except for some scratches on bonnet and top of near-side front wing. Only other bad points are the engine bay needs some tlc and the remote central locking isn't working, think it may just be the fob as the central locking does work via a key. Car is pretty much totally standard, the only modification is a replacement head unit but I do still have the original. I am selling as I struggle to find the time to use it; it's only covered about 400 miles in the last 12 months.

1st : 28/09/2003 8466m Citroen Manchester
2nd : 24/09/2004 15232m Citroen Chester
3rd : 23/09/2005 21726m Citroen Chester
4th: 21/09/2006 28463m Kwik-Fit Macclesfield
5th: 13/10/2007 34951m Citroen Wrexham
6th: 30/04/2009 41507m Citroen Wrexham
7th: 27/05/2010 47975m Citroen Wrexham
8th : 10/06/2001 51458m Citroen Wrexham
9th : 17/08/2012 54849m Citroen Wrexham
10th : 03/08/2013 56935m Citroen Wrexham
11th : 18/04/2015 59091m Citroen Wrexham

If you wish to test drive please make sure you are fully comp to drive other cars and bring proof, thanks!


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MissChief

Original Poster:

7,117 posts

169 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Good shed for a bag of sand!

GranCab

2,902 posts

147 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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A flimsy bargain !

James Junior

827 posts

158 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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I remember when these were hot property when I was growing up and first had my license. Back in the days of lower expectations when a 1.6 litre engine seemed like a big one for a hot hatch.

I remember a friend upgrading his 1.4 Corsa SRi (after he wrote it off!) for a Citroen Saxo VTS. 120bhp sounded hugely powerful to us back then. I remember driving it down the road and oddly the only thing that sticks in my mind is (as the article mentions) the tiny pedals and how close together they were.

Seem to remember them receiving critical acclaim at the time and bet a tidy one of these is a refreshing reminder of how much fun can be had with small engines in light cars.


Kitchski

6,516 posts

232 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Normally I'd bleat on with such qips as "Why would you get one of these over a VTS?" But the fact of the matter is that this VTR looks so tidy, you could argue a case for it. They are quite fun, though I'd fit a gearbox from a 106 Rallye S2 to bring the engine to life a bit more, but it would be at the expense of refinement (lol) on the motorway, and possibly fuel economy. Shed's right, 40mpg is attainable in a VTR, but you'd struggle in a VTS (mainly because you'd be caining it everywhere).

I dunno, I'd probably still have a VTS anyway. The engine is more grown-up, and though 20bhp doesn't sound much, there is a fair difference in straight line performance.

Good shed though!

familyguy1

778 posts

133 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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happy memories of my Saxo VTR, it was a hoot to drive and returned 30+mpg, not that I really cared.

sjabrown

1,923 posts

161 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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There was one of these for sale for £850 with a full MOT. Rear axle was goosed which is the only thing that put me off. Still think I missed an opportunity.

mnx42

215 posts

164 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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I had a Diabolo Red VTS and its among the best hot hatches I've had ( and I have had a few). I drove a VTR and as stated elsewhere there is quite a difference in performance. However, this one looks great value with the low mileage and the history. I'm tempted....

leon9191

752 posts

194 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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I just bought a Saxo VTR 2 weeks ago as a winter car which will eventually (over said winter) be turned into a Stock Hatch race car for next years season. The seat and belts are being delivered today as it happens!

Great little cars and can be ran on peanuts, if your not trying to make race cars out of them that is......

Fattyfat

3,301 posts

197 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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If I was any way close to that car I'd have it!

My sister had a very early 1997 VTR with the keypad immobiliser and I drove it for a while after passing my driving test. It was an absolute riot. Not fast by any stretch but just a great little car

Much misaligned largely due to the Max Power effect.

ChrisR99

452 posts

112 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Stunning, let's hope it goes to someone who will appreciate it and look after it!

Krikkit

26,544 posts

182 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Kitchski said:
Normally I'd bleat on with such qips as "Why would you get one of these over a VTS?" But the fact of the matter is that this VTR looks so tidy, you could argue a case for it. They are quite fun, though I'd fit a gearbox from a 106 Rallye S2 to bring the engine to life a bit more, but it would be at the expense of refinement (lol) on the motorway, and possibly fuel economy. Shed's right, 40mpg is attainable in a VTR, but you'd struggle in a VTS (mainly because you'd be caining it everywhere).

I dunno, I'd probably still have a VTS anyway. The engine is more grown-up, and though 20bhp doesn't sound much, there is a fair difference in straight line performance.

Good shed though!
A gearbox from a 1.1 would work better than the standard, and can be had for peanuts rather than the Rallye S2 boxes which were rare anyway.

The gearing is the only bit that spoils this VTR, great cars otherwise and fantastic handlers.

Petrol Only

1,593 posts

176 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Id have that In a flash. If I could actually drive the thing. The pedals are so close together my size 15 clown feet can use all three pedals with one foot! Not a good idea.

rallycross

12,820 posts

238 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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leon9191 said:
I just bought a Saxo VTR 2 weeks ago as a winter car which will eventually (over said winter) be turned into a Stock Hatch race car for next years season. The seat and belts are being delivered today as it happens!

Great little cars and can be ran on peanuts, if your not trying to make race cars out of them that is......
Sounds like a great plan get it done (I race a Saxo in stockhatch)

The Saxo in the advert looks immaculate cant be many one owner non chavved up Saxo's left, tempted to buy it myself, they are fun to drive and go surprisingly well for sub 100 bhp.

goodhand

75 posts

214 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Looks a fine example.

The years free insurance offered from new also helped the sales of these and partially explains why they were so much more popular than their Peugeot counterparts.

drgoatboy

1,626 posts

208 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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I had a 2003 VTR which I bought new for not a lot of money after usual Citroen discounts and the years free insurance too.
I loved it! Such a hoot to drive, even if it wasn't very fast.
This looks pretty good for under a grand.

If you do value your safety the later cars could be specced with the "safety pack" which I added to mine. It added passenger and side airbags and I think ABS. although it did mean you lost your glove compartment, it seemed like a small price to pay. not sure how much value the airbags would be though considering the rest of the car was made of old coke bottles...

J4CKO

41,641 posts

201 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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I wonder if, in years to come that the chaps that had these in their teens and twenties will get all nostalgic about the few nice once still left like they do with anything with an XR or RS badge on ?

Its never going to be worth a huge amount but sounds like a decent example and if looked after properly could provide a modest return in three years time.

Never driven a VTR, we have a C1 VTR, with which they kind of ruined any cred the badge had as it has the same 68 bhp as any other C1, 107 or Aygo has which is a shame.


JMF894

5,510 posts

156 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Drove a VTS some years ago and I have to say it felt very perky with an excellent throttle response.

Just don't hit anything more substantial than a roadside waste bin...........................

spodrod

224 posts

151 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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I had one just like this. Mine was a W reg and taught me the joys (and occasion terror) of lift-off oversteer.

Mark-C

5,139 posts

206 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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spodrod said:
I had one just like this. Mine was a W reg and taught me the joys (and occasion terror) of lift-off oversteer.
Only occasional terror? You weren’t doing it right hehe

Very nice shed - surely these will not get any cheaper if kept in that condition. Mind you I thought that when I bought my XJS!

djt100

1,735 posts

186 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Has one of these bought as a stop gap whilst looking for a car, had it just over a year as liked it, do remember that it tended to get rather hot on long motorway journeys at 80-90 , but great little fun things.