RE: Honda NSX: PH Heroes

RE: Honda NSX: PH Heroes

Thursday 17th December 2015

Honda NSX: PH Heroes

It's taken 25 years to prove just how far ahead of the curve the first Japanese supercar was



In many ways the NSX is one of those cars that's hardly dated. It's not quite fresh enough to move in with its aunt and uncle in Bel Air - a gag that would have been positively ahead of the curve when it came out in 1990 - but you still emerge from any stint in one wondering where, beyond raw speed, dynamic progress has been made since.

Not a lot separating cars 15 years apart
Not a lot separating cars 15 years apart
Yet in other ways it feels old, indeed even older than its actual age. It's a mild shock to find a cassette player in the dashboard of any car built after Apple had produced the first iPod - let alone one that was being sold for £59,995 at the time. OK, there's a CD changer in the boot for those whose music collections went into the digital age. But the presence of that tape deck is a measure of both the relative lack of importance that Honda attached to any in-car entertainment beyond that provided by the fizzing V6, but also how little the car changed throughout its long lifespan.

The point being ably demonstrated by the fact we've got two for this Heroes shoot, the pair separated by 15 years. Both belong to Honda, and although we're concentrating on the late manual car, finished in the Imola Orange I've promised not to call gold, we've also been given access to the red pre-production auto that had it's own Heroes moment back in 2011. Aside from their different gearboxes the later car has a fractionally more powerful engine, a passenger airbag and the strange faired-in headlights that Honda replaced the original's pop-ups with; in every other way they are almost identical.

Fine dynamics remain an NSX hallmark
Fine dynamics remain an NSX hallmark
The dream of power
It's getting hard to remember just how radical the brand used to be back in its heyday. This is the company that put ludicrously high-revving engines into family cars, and insisted that they had double wishbones to improve handling precision; also the one that invented a host of system that have since become commonplace, including several that made their debut on the NSX.

The NSX took Honda where no other Japanese manufacturer had gone before: supercar territory. Back in the early 1990s Japanese manufacturers were widely viewed as being technical savants, and the NSX was packed with innovation to the point of showing off. This was the first car to have an all-aluminium structure and electric power steering. The mid-mounted engine had VTEC variable timing, and was capable of revving to 8,000rpm, a number previously reserved for motorbikes and food blenders.

Yet for all the hype, the glowing roadtests and, yes, the oft-cited fact that one Ayrton Senna Da Silva had worked as a consultant during the car's development, the NSX always struggled to find its place in the market. Arriving in time for the early 90s recession and its corresponding slump in supercar values didn't help - the NSX was always an expensive car when compared to some posher rivals. Imagine being the salesman trying to persuade a down-on-his-luck bond trader to spend more on an NSX than a brand new 911...

Yet there's also the strong impression that, having developed the car, Honda seemed to lose interest. Apart from the upgrade to the brawnier 3.2-litre engine and a six-speed manual gearbox, plus the arrival of those faired-in headlights, the NSX barely changed during its 15-year production run. Only the late, ultra-lightweight, part-carbon NSX R standing out as a particularly radical innovation (not least for its 7:56 Nordschleife lap). Just 18,000 NSXs were built, and only 1,400 of those came to Europe.

It's Imola Orange, not gold...
It's Imola Orange, not gold...
Tango'd
The orange car looks to be in as-new condition for the simple fact it pretty much is. This is the car that suffered an unfortunate encounter with a tree at last year's SMMT test day, and has just been returned to Honda after an extensive and very expensive rebuild. Our loan is one of its first trips out; it's so fresh the doors are struggling to close against the springiness of their new seals. Perhaps understandably, Honda has also chosen to inhibit the traction control isolation switch.

We've brought both cars to Salisbury Plain, which offers both good photographic pickings but also enough space for a pair of NSXs to stretch their legs. Great minds clearly think alike; it's only later we realise this is exactly where the automatic car's Hero shoot was done. Despite being on holiday at the time, Matt practically dislocates his arm volunteering to come and drive for the day. He grew up with Gran Turismo and developed a matching obsession with Japanese performance cars, but this will be the first time he's driven an NSX.

Red flags are flying over the military ranges around Tilshead as we set off across the plain. The distant thud of artillery shells being launched and landing soundtracks the day, and creates a strong urge not to hang around in the same place for too long. The army has some previous when it comes to delivering ordinance to unexpected places hereabouts, last year managing to land a shell an impressive five miles off target.

The journey here from Honda's HQ in Bracknell has given an excellent introduction to the NSX's sensible side. It's one that seemed to earn it a fair bit of critical stick when it was introduced, as if the idea of a sensible everyday supercar didn't compute. The cabin is comfortable and well finished, everything works and nothing creaks; there's even digital climate control - the preserve of the most expensive luxury cars when the NSX was launched. In an era when supercar ergonomics often seemed to mean nothing more than aiming the blunderbuss filled with switchgear at the dashboard before pulling the trigger, the NSX's rational cabin and excellent visibility - inspired in part by an F-16 fighter - made it a genuine pioneer.

VTEC V6's appetite for revs still a joy
VTEC V6's appetite for revs still a joy
VTEC kicked in? No...
The mid-mounted engine is an always-charismatic powerplant, buzzing vibrations through the NSX's structure at idle. The run to Wiltshire proves it's more than happy to deal with the real world, with acceptable low-down punch despite its overwhelming enthusiasm for revs. It cruises well, despite enough noise to make any stereo struggle, but it's stable and comfortable at speed. The gearshift is gorgeous, accurate and cut-yourself sharp, a joy to operate even when crawling through traffic.

The Plain's empty roads are a tougher test, especially as passing storms roll through periodically to keep them nicely soaked. The NSX still feels fast, with the engine's ravenous appetite for revs making it feel even more so. The cams don't shift with the abrupt punch normally associated with smaller VTEC engines, but there is a second-wind moment around 6,500rpm as the exhaust note hardens and the engine starts to pull harder just when you felt it was going to give up. The sort of treatment that would feel like abuse in anything else feels completely right in an NSX, the engine clearly happiest when being thrashed like a rented donkey.

But the performance goalposts have been dug up and moved a couple of pitches over in the years since the NSX was launched. It was one of the fastest cars in the world back then; on the slick roads of the Plain it would probably be shown a clean pair of heels by a well-driven Cayman S. In terms of involvement and response it's still right up there, though - indeed quite possibly higher up the tree than when it was launched given the way more modern sports cars have traded feedback for outright speed.

Rather more 1990 than 21st century here
Rather more 1990 than 21st century here
Fox's glacier
Because while early reviews of the NSX often gave the impression that, after heaping praise on the engine, that the chassis was struggling to deliver emotional connection.than tries to do all the job itself, being low geared and surprisingly heavy, but there's still a decent amount of feel through the assistance. You instantly sense the advantage brought by having so much of the car's mass towards the centre of its wheelbase, that whole polar moment thing. The NSX turns keenly, grips hard and finds impressive traction on modern Bridgestone Potenzas.

At the limit there's slight understeer on the slippery roads, with enough adjustability in the chassis to allow you to influence a cornering line with more or less throttle. The limiting factor, beyond the fact that crashing this car would see a Yakuza member dispatched to my house, is the now-unswitchable traction control; when it does step in it's with all the subtlety of a Frankie Boyle punchline, pretty much killing the engine for a second or so.

The view many Gran Turismo fans will know
The view many Gran Turismo fans will know
Stick to the stick
Switching to the earlier car so that Matt can live out his Grand Valley East fantasies in the manual gives a chance to reconfirm there's no rational reason to choose an automatic NSX. It's genuinely amazing that buyers were prepared to compromise performance cars to such an extent just so they didn't need to operate a clutch pedal back then. The four-speed box has yawning chasms between its ratios that sap the engine of much of its high revving enthusiasm, and it's addressed by the sort of gear selector that makes picking your own gears feel like working in a railway signal box, pulling the selector back to select lower speeds. With poor detents and slow responses it's an exercise in frustration, one that I'll remember next time I feel like criticising a dual-clutch box.

The gearbox makes far more difference to the early car's performance than its fractionally less powerful engine, for that sounds just as enthusiastic when used hard and drives as well. It's also looks better with its pop-up headlamps, plus there's the fanboy frisson that comes from knowing your buttocks are sharing the same seat that Ayrton Senna's once did.

Prices are rising; easy to see why!
Prices are rising; easy to see why!
Setting the agenda
The NSX had an influence far beyond that earned from its modest sales volumes. This was the car that proved it was possible to make a turnkey reliable sports car that didn't require owners to sacrifice usability and comfort in exchange for performance. Back in 1990 it was a rule-breaking exception; these days pretty much every major performance car boasts similar everyday utility. That's no coincidence.

Values have also been rising steadily in recent years as interest has increased in a car that was always ahead of its time; the last time I drove the red car was for a magazine story in 2012 when it was possible to pick up early autos for £15,000 or even less. These days the high 20s are where things kick off, and low-mileage UK spec manuals well over £40K. For the rare yuppie who did pass up a 911 for an NSX and hold onto it, this has been a canny investment.


HONDA NSX
Engine
: 3,179cc V6
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 280@7,300rpm
Torque (lb ft): 220@5,300rpm
0-62mph: 5.7sec
Top speed: 168mph
Weight: 1,410kg
On sale: 1990-2005
Price new: £59,995
Price now: c.£40,000

















Photos: Tim Brown

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Discussion

TerryFarquit

Original Poster:

93 posts

127 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Would only want a Mk1, but you've got to remember that for the price you could have got two Griffiths and an ample supply of brown trousers.

For cars that make a second appearance as a hero, doesn't that make them a superhero?

(btw, the Griffith Hero profile is a bit out of date)


RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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cloud9

I regard the NSX as one of the best road cars I've ever driven, if not the best. Comfortable and serene on the road, but on the track they have a fluidity and ease of handling that I'm not sure I've ever experienced in anything else. I had the mk2 that I drove on the lock stops at about 40mph and a decent bit sideways at about 100mph and in both cases it was completely controllable and calm.

Something interesting to note is the result of McLaren's analysis of the NSX and other current mid-engined sports/super cars in the R&D phase of the McLaren F1 project, as reported in the excellent (and now sadly rare and expensive) book on the subject. In almost all the objective measures that Mclaren took, the NSX came out on top. Gordon Murray was so impressed that I believe he bought one and still has it.

Bladedancer

1,269 posts

196 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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I'd love to have one as my daily drive one day but with prices sky rocketing that isn't going to happen :/

lamby

91 posts

187 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Where do we go from here??!!

Always thought these looked like a lower model than a maclaren f1 direct from the front with the fared headlights.. Amazing piece of engineering for the time though...

Another car i felt was ahead of its time was the MR2 of this era.. The one the released after was positive step backward in my opinion.

The new supercars are epic... and the search for speed has been, now i think... been done.. I think we can see that with maclaren, they are taking almost a step back to look at driveability again. Failing to see why we need to go faster, its unuseable, so whats the point. The next design exercise i feel is quicker (not faster!!), lighter with a return for feel being the main exercise...(lets hope TVR can deliver something like this!)

Were waiting....

Guvernator

13,156 posts

165 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Another great car that seems to have fallen foul of the "asset collectors". Like the M3 CSL, at £25k they were a great buy, with figures around £60k now for late models, I'll pass.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

228 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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I loved my one, but wonder how much more can be written about them.

W124

1,532 posts

138 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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I saw that car go off at Millbrook. I was right behind it in a 4C. Amazed it was fixable. It looked like a terminal impact. Scary moment that.

LarJammer

2,237 posts

210 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Gratuitous shot of my baby -



I would agree with most of the article but i find the stereo one of the best ive ever experienced, having a cassette player is irrelavent. Its also worth googling some gordon murray nsx quotes, he has a lot of praise for it.

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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W124 said:
I saw that car go off at Millbrook. I was right behind it in a 4C. Amazed it was fixable. It looked like a terminal impact. Scary moment that.
What's the story there then, terminal lack of talent from the driver?

POORCARDEALER

8,524 posts

241 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Had a 93L about 8/9 years ago, 90K miles FSH, had been part exchanged into a Volvo dealer (!), I gave 11K for it, drove it for a few days, liked it, like the look of it, interior was a turn off, sold it to a car club for a decent profit.

If I wanted a decent fast classic car for everyday use they are a viable alternative to 993 Porsche. (however at todays money they are both too expensive)

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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I'm glad I took the chance to own one when prices were realistic. It's a shame enthusiastic owners are price out of what was always designed as a proper drivers car. A great car.

Jwhite84

14 posts

119 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Re final point - 911s will have gone up by more!

Mark Wibble

211 posts

224 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Are the comments on the auto box entirely fair? Agreed it may not stand up to latest auto boxes or dual-clutches these days, but was it not the best of its type at the time? I certainly remember a what-would-you-buy-for-the-cost-of-a-McLaren-F1 article (Car or Autocar) and the author included both a manual and auto NSX. My hardly-exhaustive comparison is a circa 90s Civic auto within the same era, best auto box I drove for many years- by todays standards I suppose it was clunky, but at the time it was well-tuned and nicely predictable.

dickyf

807 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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i had an early UK manual car a few yrs ago, great but not brilliant. It was neither fast not engaging. I found the gearing practically useless for UK A and B roads, i recall it did 80MPH in 2nd. ABS made a lot of noise the the blown amp was a costly fix. Parts for these things are expensive! I sold it and bought a C2S with the proceeds which was far more fun.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Somehow the styling was too tame for a supercar (both inside and out) and many prospective customers expected a V8 for that sort of money.

One of the unusual things for a transvers 6-cylinder mid-engined car is it has an engine/gearbox layout which keeps a low centre of gravity, namely with the engine and gearbox end to end (rather than stacked one above the other as per current Lotus practise). This is one of the reasons why it would not have been possible to fit a V8.

daveco

4,126 posts

207 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Blasted thing couldn't be caught in the restricted 280hp Japanese races in the first Gran Turismo, the only thing that came close was the RX-7. Occasionally the Supra RZ would scare it on the longer straights...then it would disappear at the first corner.

Legendary status cemented because of that game.

And Best Motoring.

And that Senna Suzuka video.


Shnozz

27,475 posts

271 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Jwhite84 said:
Re final point - 911s will have gone up by more!
My first thought having read the article.

The "canny yuppie" that paid less for his 993 would be sat on a sat heftier profit right now.

Neil-5ogx0

48 posts

107 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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I have owned 5 NSX and regretted selling each one very soon after the new owner drove away. I have driven many, same era and more modern alternatives and some are certainly faster and more powerful but none match the all round experience of driving the NSX for me. I still own 2 examples (pictured) and doubt I will now ever be without a NSX. The later NA2 cars with the 3.2 litre engine, 6 speed gearbox and various other improvements are better in my view but the early NA1 cars certainly do not disappoint.

I have never driven an Auto NSX but have driven each of the different manual cars, including the NA1 NSX Type R which was only available in Japan, and then there were only 483 made, a few have been imported into the UK but you could probably count them on one hand. I have also been lucky enough to experience a NA2 Type R as a passenger in Japan around the Suzuka race track. The Type Rs are lighter, have blueprinted engines and have some unique exterior and interior features.

The NSX is rare in the UK, I believe only around 495 were sold between 1990 and 2005/6, and the later 3.2 litre cars are the rarest with only 85 UK cars between 2002 and 2005/6.

Whilst values have risen recently these cars remain great value, at least for now.



Mike Duff

11 posts

116 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Shnozz said:
Jwhite84 said:
Re final point - 911s will have gone up by more!
My first thought having read the article.

The "canny yuppie" that paid less for his 993 would be sat on a sat heftier profit right now.
Good point, but I was comparing the later car to the equivalent 996. Should have made that clearer though...

soad

32,896 posts

176 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Looks dated to my eyes (and I don't mean interior!). But it remains relatively affordable.