RE: Mitsubishi Evo VI Tommi Makinen RS: Spotted

RE: Mitsubishi Evo VI Tommi Makinen RS: Spotted

Tuesday 19th January 2016

Mitsubishi Evo VI Tommi Makinen RS: Spotted

The ultimate version of the ultimate Evo, and not as expensive as you might think either



Looking back on the time, it's little surprise that cars like the Tommi Makinen Evo and Imprezas RB5 and RB320 have become so collectable. Not only were they fantastic cars in their own right, but with a sprinkle of rally driver fairy dust they became the most desirable of the breed. Moreover, with rallying a very different sport to what it was and the cars no longer made, enthusiasts are clambering over themselves to get back into one.

Crying out for decals
Crying out for decals
Trouble is, that makes the cars quite expensive. See the £40K Impreza 22B we featured a little while back, plus the fact that a good Evo VI Tommi Makinen Edition can cost £30,000 now. Compounding the frustration is that these cars are not really for collections; some cars work very well as stationary objects to admire, but Evos and Imprezas are not those cars. They need to be driven hard to be properly enjoyed, but who wants to do that in a Subaru you've paid £40K for?

So here's an alternative: the Evo that's just like a Makinen but is a little under the radar (as much as an Evo can be) in terms of values. The Evo VI Tommi Makinen RS.

Looks pretty cool, doesn't it? Plain white lends it the impression of an unadorned competition car, the bodywork seemingly desperate for motorsport decals. The Tommi Makinen badges are still there for those on the lookout, there are Ralliart mudflaps and the whole aesthetic is unapologetically focused on fast. You want to look good? Go buy a TT. If you want to go fast, you buy the Evo.

The RS, from what can be found on it, appears even more of the same. Like cars with similar names, this Evo bears all the hallmarks of a classic lightweight special: the glass is lighter, the electric windows are gone, even the central locking is ditched here.

If it isn't needed, it doesn't feature
If it isn't needed, it doesn't feature
Now it's very easy to get lost in the details of mental Evos and the difference between your Zero Fighter and your RSX. According to this advert, over a regular TME the RS gained its own diffs, steering rack and drivetrain so it's a much more thorough overhaul than taking away the stickers and the electric windows. If anyone has any experience of an RS Evo VI it would be great to know; how much more intense can that car be?!

This imported RS is for sale at a dealer for £15,995. Concerns are raised by an ad that mentions both 'Outstanding Original Condition' as well as a different exhaust and seats, but it looks decent and the mileage is low for a car that's nearly 16 years old. Bet it still feels bonkers to drive too.

At the moment there is a UK-supplied Evo VI RSX at £10K in the classifieds and a TME (in the right colour) at £20,000. Those cars have their appeal certainly, but the prospect of one of the rawest rally reps ever produced made even more so would be very hard to resist.


MITSUBISHI EVO VI TOMMI MAKINEN RS LIGHTWEIGHT
Engine
: 1,997cc, 16-valve turbo
Transmission: 5-speed manual, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 280@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 275@2,750rpm
MPG: 23
CO2: N/A
First registered: 2000
Recorded mileage: 63,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £15,995

See the original advert here.





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crispyshark

Original Poster:

1,262 posts

146 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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Great car. Would take this over a £60k RS Turbo any day!

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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Gimme gimme gimme.

That is all.

cloud9

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

156 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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crispyshark said:
Great car. Would take this over a £60k RS Turbo any day!
Or both...




MDMA .

8,916 posts

102 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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top dollar and cant even be bothered to vacuum the floor mats. for this reason, I'm out. poor level of prep by the dealer.

crispyshark

Original Poster:

1,262 posts

146 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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neil1jnr said:
crispyshark said:
Great car. Would take this over a £60k RS Turbo any day!
Or both...

You are a lucky man....I'm very jealous! biggrin

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

156 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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crispyshark said:
You are a lucky man....I'm very jealous! biggrin
Only the Evo is mines frown . That's a pic with the fathers pride and joy from when I was round last autumn.

AH33

2,066 posts

136 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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An RS Turbo is now £60k?

When did that happen?

danllama

5,728 posts

143 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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neil1jnr said:
Or both...

Lad.

Edit: nevermind, read your follow up. That was misleading. biggrin

soad

32,917 posts

177 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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AH33 said:
An RS Turbo is now £60k?

When did that happen?
They aren't.

trickywoo

11,867 posts

231 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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If you can keep the miles off good condition examples are bound to go up in value.

MCBrowncoat

895 posts

147 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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soad said:
AH33 said:
An RS Turbo is now £60k?

When did that happen?
They aren't.
http://www.classicandperformancecar.com/ford/escort-rs-turbo/4986/ford-escort-rs-turbo-sells-for-60k-at-silverstone-auctions-nec-sale

Bonkers

Welshwonder

303 posts

189 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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From experience (VI RS, non-Tommi), the steering is sublime thanks to a quicker ratio over 'standard'. Gearbox is brilliant - depending on which gearset it has. RS' usually only geared to about 120mph but obviously gets there very quickly. One in the ad has better seats (taxi seats standard on an RS.)

Would have another in a heartbeat, ideally an RS sprint.

Look out for rust though! Even less underseal on these compared to normal Jap imports.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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Welshwonder said:
From experience (VI RS, non-Tommi), the steering is sublime thanks to a quicker ratio over 'standard'. Gearbox is brilliant - depending on which gearset it has. RS' usually only geared to about 120mph but obviously gets there very quickly. One in the ad has better seats (taxi seats standard on an RS.)

Would have another in a heartbeat, ideally an RS sprint.

Look out for rust though! Even less underseal on these compared to normal Jap imports.
To anyone in the market for an Evo, the 5 speed gearbox is far superior to the later 6 speed box, shift quality etc.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,270 posts

201 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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MDMA . said:
top dollar and cant even be bothered to vacuum the floor mats. for this reason, I'm out. poor level of prep by the dealer.
Unbelievable isn't it - just that mat (and the untidy rear middle belt) let the whole advert down.
For that money - I would be wanting perfection.

2BarBoost

159 posts

156 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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AI think if you can get a good 5 or 6 RS they are a good buy also

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

164 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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markcoznottz said:
To anyone in the market for an Evo, the 5 speed gearbox is far superior to the later 6 speed box, shift quality etc.
Ratio's are a fair bit worse though.

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

156 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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danllama said:
Lad.

Edit: nevermind, read your follow up. That was misleading. biggrin
Yeah it was a bit, I can always dream... and any excuse to post a pic of the two!

rallycross

12,826 posts

238 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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The RS models drive much better on track than the regular Evo models as they do away with the horrible AYC system and you get proper mechanical LSDs fitted instead, very quick rack steering which was great on track, plus shorter gear ratios making these RS models even more responsive than a normal Evo. Amazing on track not so good as a road car (in fact pretty useless as a road car!).

On track the RS spec cars are fantastic to throw around and can be driven sideways so easily.
My 6 RS models were the most fun Evo I took on a track (and I've been lucky to drive lots of different Evo's on track days). The TME RS was very rare there was supposed to be only a dozen or so in the UK.

The RS models were the base car for motor sport use, hence no AYC but proper limited slip diff's instead, short ratio final drive (a pain on the road) no ABS, quick rack steering (the quick steering made a huge difference compared to a standard models) extra welds on the body/chassis for extra strength and they came with base spec seats (mini cab spec) no electrics (my RS TME had no radio, wind up windows, no c/locking and no aircon), you could even order them with base spec Lancer brakes which the rally car builders would throw away when building a high spec rally car.

In the UK Mitsubishi also sold an RSII model 6 and these cars were great as they had the RS performance features plus came with electrics, aircon etc so were usable day to day - and made a great base for a track car (most of these were sold on 51 or 52 reg at knock down prices.

It's worth noting that a normal Tommi Makkinen Evo6 was really just a GSR with the cosmetic changes, the only technical change of note was a different turbo housing but essentially driving a TME model is the same as driving a normal 6 GSR.

I miss my 6 RS11 more than my RS TME (below) it was previously owned by Russ Swift as one of his stunt cars (hence the silly graphics) and was in one of the Clarkson videos. After I got it I removed this back to plain white paint, most of it just pealed off with the help of boiling water.



They really did come with these base spec seats but it was very easy to swap these out for a set of recaro's from other models. You can see the red stiching on the gear lever trim, that denotes the TME spec.



This RS2 model was one of the last UK registered Evo6' and was much more useable car than the TME Rs as is had creature comforts like A/C, e/windows, stereo etc.



I was lucky to compare 3 of the best 4wd turbo's at the same time with a P1, the RS TME and 350 BHP Evo8 MR Extreme. The 6 RS was the best on track and worst on the road.








s m

23,262 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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neil1jnr said:
danllama said:
Lad.

Edit: nevermind, read your follow up. That was misleading. biggrin
Yeah it was a bit, I can always dream... and any excuse to post a pic of the two!
Great pic! How long has he had the Escort?

MDMA .

8,916 posts

102 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
MDMA . said:
top dollar and cant even be bothered to vacuum the floor mats. for this reason, I'm out. poor level of prep by the dealer.
Unbelievable isn't it - just that mat (and the untidy rear middle belt) let the whole advert down.
For that money - I would be wanting perfection.
I was struggling to get past the brake dust on the front wheels to be honest. stopped looking when it came to the floor mats.