RE: Jaguar F-Type SVR leaked
Sunday 31st January 2016
That Jaguar has chosen currently to reveal very little information about the F-Type SVR shows just how eagerly anticipated the car is. They know the world is gagging for a faster F-Type - and that the mere announcement of a debut is enough to send the motoring media (and hopefully some buyers) into a frenzy.
Bring on February 17...So an SVR will be at Geneva, the reveal set for the first press day on March 1. Full specs will be disclosed on February 17, but Jaguar has said the car is "Lighter, faster and more powerful", the first point perhaps just as encouraging as the other two. The titanium exhaust as mentioned in yesterday's story - see the leaked details below - has been confirmed, which bodes well for the other weight saving measures discussed such as the forged wheels.
Perhaps against expectations we rather like 'our' PH Fleet Range Rover Sport SVR. Say what you like about performance SUVs there's something irrepressible about the SVR upgrades and character of the lairy Range Rover. A lot of that is down to the noise, we'll admit. But it's more than just a big personality.
Anyway. Just imagine a beefed up F-Type with the same character traits. We've seen what would appear to be an SVR F-Type coupe testing in the typical prototype camo. We know JLR's Special Vehicle Operations division has ambitions beyond the Sport and specials like the F-Type Project 7. Given previous applications we'd have to guess a version of the 5.0-litre supercharged V8 with at least 550hp and a very, very noisy exhaust would be a given and SVO boss John Edwards has stated all roadgoing SVR products will be all-wheel drive. And now we seemingly have some official pictures via Dutch website Autoblog.nl and reported on by our colleagues at Autocar.
Jaguar F-Type SVR leaked [Updated]
On sale in the summer and definitely, definitely capable of 200mph - time to get excited!
Bring on February 17...
As you can see, there will be both a coupe and convertible F-Type SVRs. Now the guessing can begin on just how much more power it will have over the standard 550hp... Full details in three weeks!
Matt
The exact provenance of these images is unknown but would seem to have been inadvertently revealed in some dealer literature. According to Autoblog the car will have 575hp and - odd comparison alert - offer Ferrari F40 levels of performance. Not quite sure how a burly, all-wheel drive, front-engined coupe can be benchmarked against a carbon-Kevlar skinned minimalist supercar but anyway. Our Dutch friends claim some stats for lightweight components fitted to the SVR, including weight savings of 10kg for forged wheels, optional ceramic brakes cutting 21kg and a 12kg lighter titanium exhaust, also optional. There's also a claim of redesigned rear suspension and increased ride stiffness of 41 per cent.
Whether we'll see the car at Geneva or later in the year is yet to be confirmed but consider our appetites whetted. As a thuggish, homegrown alternative to the updated 911 Turbo we drove the other week it'll be an irresistible comparison - we're booking the circuit time right now!
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[Sources: Autoblog.nl, Autovisie.nl, Autocar]
Discussion
Ex Boy Racer said:
It does seem strange that manufacturers design these pops and bangs into the car even though technology makes them unnecessary, while once upon a time a tuner would try his hardest to stop them happening even though technology couldn't really stop it!
You can sort of see how it's come about though. By the late days of carburettor fed engines, manufacturers had managed to remove over-fuelling from mundane cars but the more highly tuned the engine, the more valve over-lap there was and so the harder it was to avoid unburnt fuel entering the exhaust. People came to associate the flaw with performance cars and because they associated it with desirable cars, it came to be viewed as a desirable sound. You could argue much the same about loud exhausts in general. Sports cars used to be loud because it was the only way manufacturers could keep back-pressure down to get decent performance from the engine. These days it's perfectly possible to make even the highest performance of engines almost silent but manufacturers don't because people still associate noise with performance.
j90gta said:
Who cares whether it pops and bangs? Just make sure it goes as well as it looks!
My opinion thats all. I wont be buying one but if I were going to buy one I would not want to be driving along hearing that all the time, would do my head in. Lovely cars I think but I hearing those bangs all the time would grow tiring. Its just embarrassing when you see one crawling along at low speeds in traffic and all you can hear is bang bang f
king bang, its so fake.....MikeGoodwin said:
I wonder if it will pop and bang as it drives down a built up street in traffic at 10mph every time the driver lifts the throttle.....
JLR are all about clever software managing the oily bits, there'll be a variety of engine modes one of which will be suitably hushed. Its pretty much essential, given the target market for such a car. No one wants to sound like a chav when pulling up at a posh stately home. Well at least the noises engineered in and not piped in like some other manufacturers deem a solution.
It seems more and more the only USP Porschar 911 owners will have to fall back on is that it has 4 seats. Well until McLaren's 2+2 comes out.
Good to see that the Project 7 spec will live on and they have finally focused on getting some weight out of the car.
It seems more and more the only USP Porschar 911 owners will have to fall back on is that it has 4 seats. Well until McLaren's 2+2 comes out.
Good to see that the Project 7 spec will live on and they have finally focused on getting some weight out of the car.
MikeGoodwin said:
My opinion thats all. I wont be buying one but if I were going to buy one I would not want to be driving along hearing that all the time, would do my head in. Lovely cars I think but I hearing those bangs all the time would grow tiring.
Or you could, you know, just press the button that turns them off.Challenging.
What on earth are some of you on about?
Manufacturers have been tuning exhausts for decades to make noises that invoke passion and emotion.
Literally no one ever made a proper combustion engined supercar and thought "I want it silent"
Scientists say a babies scream provokes a caveman reaction that an adult female cannot ignore.
They didn't have 575bhp V8's in those days but if they did, the male cavement would have lost control of bodily functions.
Manufacturers have been tuning exhausts for decades to make noises that invoke passion and emotion.
Literally no one ever made a proper combustion engined supercar and thought "I want it silent"
Scientists say a babies scream provokes a caveman reaction that an adult female cannot ignore.
They didn't have 575bhp V8's in those days but if they did, the male cavement would have lost control of bodily functions.
TVR's were the original "modern" cars that popped and banged like a goodun, and even with them it was deliberately mapped into the ECU. Basically the overrun fuel cut feature was disabled, much to the detriment of the cats longevity, but no one cared about that. 
However they seem genuine on TVRs as they only really do it under certain circumstances, and they are not the same sound each time. Whilst I applaud the engineered exhaust lairyness of modern performance cars, it's spoiled by the sound being exactly the same every time, regardless of what the engine is doing. Build a bit of randomness into it and only have it do it above certain high rpm and throttle opening thresholds and it'll sound proper. You want to have to work the engine hard to be rewarded with exhaust fireworks. Not every damn gear change or lift-off, regardless.
However they seem genuine on TVRs as they only really do it under certain circumstances, and they are not the same sound each time. Whilst I applaud the engineered exhaust lairyness of modern performance cars, it's spoiled by the sound being exactly the same every time, regardless of what the engine is doing. Build a bit of randomness into it and only have it do it above certain high rpm and throttle opening thresholds and it'll sound proper. You want to have to work the engine hard to be rewarded with exhaust fireworks. Not every damn gear change or lift-off, regardless.
I really love this new SVR but it'll be up against some tough competition at the price point this must command.
Pretty much every body panel is different, with all the additional lightweight goodies underneath too, it's not going to be cheap (£110k+ ?).
Having said that, I think it looks absolutely fantastic. Especially the new bonnet with the extra bulges and new louvres.
Pretty much every body panel is different, with all the additional lightweight goodies underneath too, it's not going to be cheap (£110k+ ?).
Having said that, I think it looks absolutely fantastic. Especially the new bonnet with the extra bulges and new louvres.
When my Project 7 arrives I hope it wakes everyone up in a 1 mile radius of my house. If I'm going to have a daft car with daft roundals a daft roof then I sure as hell want daft noises! If you don't want daft noises and loud styling buy a boring car that no one will look at, its really very simple.
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