RE: Shed of the Week: Volvo V70

RE: Shed of the Week: Volvo V70

Friday 29th January 2016

Shed of the Week: Volvo V70

A powerful five-cylinder turbo, some remedial work already done and it comes pre-dented too!



No news is good news, they say. But that doesn't mean that all news is bad news.

We're talking about the 'news' that sometimes comes up on car info screens. Sensors are meant to tell you about malfunctioning parts elsewhere in the car, but like the miserable snivelling snitchers that they are, they never own up when they're malfunctioning themselves. As a result, more than a few of the messages that ping up on ye olde screenes turn out to be porky pies.

Now this looks jolly comfy
Now this looks jolly comfy
Perhaps we need sensors for the sensors. Shed's preference is for no electronic sensors at all. He prefers to rely on the ones supplied to him as original equipment: his ears, hands and backside.

Be that as it may, if you're prepared to treat its diagnostic bleatings with the disbelieving contempt they deserve, this week's Volvo V70 Shed has much to commend it.

It's not a T5, but don't let that worry you: with 200 horsepower from its 2.4-litre turbo five-pot and a strong all-wheel drive system, a 2.4T AWD S is never going to short change you on performance or ability.

We'd go further and vouchsafe that, if the luck is with you, this could be another early candidate for 2016 Shed of the Year. Look at what you get. Four-wheel traction, supremely comfortable leather seating, a brilliant sound system and enough room to shift the entire Liberal Democrat Parliamentary party (with three lying down in the back). This is a torquey, characterful drive that should serve you well for a long time to come. And all without the gawky looks of the Cross Country.

The Shed is a one-owner car with plenty of headroom in its mileage. 112,000 is very low for an '02 V70. Admittedly it looks like the owner has, well, owned it, but he's up front about the bumps and scrapes in the advert. Rather than scorning it for its battle scars, think of it as pre-dented for your motoring convenience. They did it so you don't have to, that sort of thing. Or if you do, it won't really matter.

"Some scrapes from Devon and Cornwall lanes"
"Some scrapes from Devon and Cornwall lanes"
Corrosion is neither mentioned nor evident in the pics. The back brakes have been recently done, which probably accounts for at least half the £700 asking price. Anything else you should be looking out for?

Yes. The Geartronic transmission. Once again your good old sensor might pop his little head up and suggest something like 'Transmission Service Required'. You might notice late upshifts, delayed power take ups from a trailing throttle, revs that seem a bit high and traffic creep that seems a mite insistent.

The slow take up issue could be a function of the trans going into neutral when the car is slowing to a halt, a Volvo feature designed to cut fuel use and general wear and tear. That function can be disabled, a good idea if you have ever coasted into a roundabout in a V70 and watched in horror as an artic bears down on you while you await the restoration of forward progress.

Excessive lag and shunt on the move could be an indicator of something rather worse though. Error codes may suggest a mechanical fault in the 'box. It could just as easily be software-related, but Geartonic transmission valve bodies are known for failing at six-figure mileages and you can be looking at a four-figure fix cost there.

What more do you need for £700?
What more do you need for £700?
Sometimes, Geartronic ailments can be remedied at relatively low cost either through the application of software, having the correct amount of gearbox fluid on board or the replacement of a few solenoids. If you're unlucky, however, Volvo will quote you three grand or so for a new 'box.

If this is all starting to sound like a financial accident waiting to happen, there is some good news. The throttle control module (or Electronic Throttle Module, to give it its proper name) is another known problem. Even Volvo admitted they wouldn't last beyond 100,000 miles. The symptom of failure is limited throttle movement which triggers the ECU into limp-home mode. Cleaning the clag out of the ETM might buy you a bit more time, but there's nowt to worry about here as this item has already been replaced - again, a major saving for the next owner.

If that person happens to be you, all you'll need is a bucket and sponge, a square of gaffer tape on the info screen and a gurt big hairy beast to sit in the back. If you don't have your own Mrs Shed, a labradoodle will do.

Here is the ad.

Only 112,000 miles, well maintained, generally good condition with some corner scrapes (from Cornwall & Devon lanes!), small dent in rear passenger door. Warning system shows 'emission system service required', diagnosed by garage as faulty sensor, emissions well within the mot limits. Also sometimes shows 'engine system service required', which again is faulty sensor, the throttle control module was replaced last year, and it's shown this sporadically ever since.. Rear brake discs & calipers replaced last year. Great stereo, CD multi changer, full leather, cruise control etc. Rear seats removable, great load carrier 12 months MOT


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daveco

Original Poster:

4,126 posts

207 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Yep that's a damn good shed right there.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Proper shed, great work.

BeastieBoy73

649 posts

112 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Not for everyone, obviously but I'd find a perfect companion for family/dog/bike duties.

Wish I'd gone down this route rather than spending a lot more on a (now very muddy on the inside) Passat estate.

Great shed.

2smoke

216 posts

111 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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That looks like a fantastic replacement for my van!

klunkT5

589 posts

118 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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IMO If you want reliability go 2wd and manual, Geartronic and 4wd are the 2 things Volvo didnt quite get right in terms of longevity.

Edited by klunkT5 on Friday 29th January 10:00

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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At that mileage a gearbox oil change might well put off any geartronic problems for another 100K at least, the same box lasts forever in applications where proper fluid changes are part of the service schedule.

I've had an 04 MY T5 as a family shed for a while, 53 plate onwards cars have a lot of the early electrical gremlins fixed and are the ones to go for if you can. For the price of this shed though you can take a chance.

It's been a brilliant old bus, fuel economy isn't as terrible as some would have you believe either.

thewildblue

351 posts

173 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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My P2 V70 will be going soon...bought in April 2014 with 220k miles...now on 235k and going well. Only needed a ball joint on an MOT. Best bit is mine is a 7 seater T5 manual...will replace with an XC90 as need the larger rear seats. Super cars with what you can whack in there, mega comfy as well !

Birzzles

31 posts

147 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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i love the v70 shape. However 'geartronic' is about as attractive as 'multitronic', also volvo awd has a reputation for reliably eating the differential as the system cannot handle even small differences in tyre wear. Perhaps these 2 points are undeserved. But i'd avoid 4wd volvos and autos.

Barchettaman

6,309 posts

132 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Top shed.

The possibility of massive bills nicely offset by the probability of lots of all-weather fun, and a bit of a Q-car to boot.

Well spotted PH.

S10GTA

12,678 posts

167 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Bet you AWD is borked wink

blueacid

442 posts

141 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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dme123 said:
At that mileage a gearbox oil change might well put off any geartronic problems for another 100K at least, the same box lasts forever in applications where proper fluid changes are part of the service schedule.

I've had an 04 MY T5 as a family shed for a while, 53 plate onwards cars have a lot of the early electrical gremlins fixed and are the ones to go for if you can. For the price of this shed though you can take a chance.

It's been a brilliant old bus, fuel economy isn't as terrible as some would have you believe either.
Quoted for truth, the same AW55-50SN gearbox in other applications (saab, renault and some GM cars over the pond) has a 50k fluid change interval and doesn't have a bad reputation in those vehicles. In the Volvo it's "Sealed for life" and has a reputation for death.

Change the fluid (easy and not too expensive) and you're fine and dandy.

r.g.

601 posts

212 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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thewildblue said:
My P2 V70 will be going soon...bought in April 2014 with 220k miles...now on 235k and going well. Only needed a ball joint on an MOT. Best bit is mine is a 7 seater T5 manual...will replace with an XC90 as need the larger rear seats. Super cars with what you can whack in there, mega comfy as well !
I had one of these as well. Loved it.

Yours isn't blue with black leather on a YxxxVHR plate is it?

thewildblue

351 posts

173 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Yes thats it.... :-)

scott davies

13 posts

207 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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I had one of these...Whilst the thought of running an old battered wagon as a family tool made some sense, I couldn't live with the dire driving experience, the wallowing ride 'invisible' stearing and looking like i shouldhave a couple of pheasants in the boot.

8potdave

2,304 posts

213 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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I've got one these albeit 8 years newer and a diesel R design but the build quality is as good as anything German and they feel really well thought out. I'd struggle to replace it with anything better unless my budget doubled!

r.g.

601 posts

212 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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thewildblue said:
Yes thats it.... :-)
Really? Small world.

That's a great car. Glad she's still going. I reckon I replaced every bush on the front suspension in my time.

Dafuq

371 posts

170 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Hands above head clapping here.

The definitive shed. Any true petrolhead will have a place in their heart for a cathedral sized old Volvo. Had one myself years ago, it was truly epic, if thirsty.

After the apocolypse, should it ever happen, there will only be cockroaches and old Volvo estates.

Shed-Shed

2 posts

99 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Only worth its weight in scrap with a lunched Gaytronic. it will defo be terminal

confused_buyer

6,619 posts

181 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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blueacid said:
Quoted for truth, the same AW55-50SN gearbox in other applications (saab, renault and some GM cars over the pond) has a 50k fluid change interval and doesn't have a bad reputation in those vehicles. In the Volvo it's "Sealed for life" and has a reputation for death.

Change the fluid (easy and not too expensive) and you're fine and dandy.
Actually, the early ones do. Saab even had a TSB for early valve body failures on the 9-5 when it started using that gearbox.

Also, just to be picky, the car in the ad isn't a Geartronic - not that it makes any difference.

If the gearbox is OK at the moment after 10 miles of driving it is a good buy - they fail gradually so it would have some miles in it before getting too much of a pain to drive.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Better than last week's A6, anyway. Leather, comfy, 4WD, spacious... I might even consider it worth replacing the gearbox if it blows up.