RE: Jaguar XJR: Spotted

RE: Jaguar XJR: Spotted

Tuesday 2nd February 2016

Jaguar XJR: Spotted

Original six-cylinder XJRs are very hard to come by, even more so in this condition



There's just something about a fast Jaguar saloon. The combination of massive speed with a very English sense of luxury makes them a performance car unlike any other. They've never been without rivals, of course, usually from the various German manufacturers. But there's always something that bit different to distinguish them, whether that be in style, dynamics or engineering.


We are of course at the end of an era for performance Jaguars too; from now on, as the F-Type SVR has reminded us, all flagship models will be all-wheel drive. Not a bad thing by any means - the Jaguar Intelligent Driveline Dynamics system is very good - but it is different. And we rather worry about different, don't we?

Anyway, to the car in question. It's one of the first Jaguar XJRs, a product of TWR and Jaguar's collaboration in the late 80s to create cars that appealed to a younger client base. It's not just a recent phenomenon! Under the 'Jaguar Sport' name, the XJR and XJS-based XJR-S were created and TWR began laying the foundations for the XJ220 and XJR-15. There was a bit of success in sportscar racing too...

The XJ40 XJR was based on the XJ6, with TWR's modifications including new Bilstein dampers, changes to the steering and some subtle styling tweaks too. Originally a 3.6, the later cars like this one came with a 4.0-litre straight six and the square headlights rather than the original round items. From what can be found on the internet, a 4.0-litre manual XJ6 was once capable of 145mph and 0-60mph in 7.2 seconds.


According to the ad for this 4.0-litre auto, there are just 37 XJ40 XJRs left on the road today. It sounds believable; when did you last see one? This one must be one of the best too, having covered just 39,000 miles and with rear cream leather seats that look to have been barely touched. It's had one owner for the past quarter of a century who always had it serviced at the same Jaguar dealer. There's an RAC badge in the grille. The wood gleams and there's even a car phone. If you like fast old Jags - and we rather do - then this XJR looks ruddy magnificent.

At £14K there are other sports saloons both of the XJR's time and newer to consider. You could have a previous-gen X350 V8 XJR for example. Interestingly E34 M5s are out of price range but there is a Mercedes 500E at £12,990, albeit in left-hand drive with a lot more miles. Are there any other realistic alternatives? We'd love to hear them, especially as it might stave off the irrepressible urge to buy this right now. What a car!


Jaguar XJR
Engine
: 3,980cc, inline-6
Transmission: 4-speed ZF automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 254@5,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 278@4,000rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1990
Recorded mileage: 39,000 miles
Price new: £39,950
Yours for: £13,995

See the original advert here.







[Source: JaguarSportXJR.com]

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Discussion

Dr G

Original Poster:

15,172 posts

242 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Closest in spirit? I call Maserati!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

15k seems to do a Quattroporte just fine.

groomi

9,317 posts

243 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Lovely car and in great condition. The thing is with the XJR, it wasn't really significantly faster than a standard XJ and the interior is ruined by that hideous steering wheel.

Now, if you can find a Chasseur Stealth Bi-Turbo in that condition...


TurboHatchback

4,160 posts

153 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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I do like an XJR but that one seems an enormous amount of money for what it is. I'd much rather have a nice x308 XJR for £4k-£6k and spend the change on petrol.

Loplop

1,937 posts

185 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Numerous E34 M5s have been for sale at the same or less money over the past few months.

An E34 540i is just as fast even in auto guise which would set you back about £3k.

You'd also get a tidy E39 M5 for that money.

Dafuq

371 posts

170 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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How much?, I thought it was Feb 1st not April 1st, errm, it's a no from me.

Twoshoe

854 posts

184 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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If there was an award for which alloy wheels look most like cheap aftermarket wheel trims, this would surely win.

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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groomi said:
Lovely car and in great condition. The thing is with the XJR, it wasn't really significantly faster than a standard XJ and the interior is ruined by that hideous steering wheel.

Now, if you can find a Chasseur Stealth Bi-Turbo in that condition...

That's incredible! Never knew such a thing existed. The hunt begins...

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

140 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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I very strongly suspect that the right customer for this car will not also be weighing up an E39 M5.

Quhet

2,420 posts

146 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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groomi said:
... and the interior is ruined by that hideous steering wheel.
laugh I love it! The interior looks like a lovely place to be

Charlie Michael

2,750 posts

184 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Matt Bird said:
groomi said:
Lovely car and in great condition. The thing is with the XJR, it wasn't really significantly faster than a standard XJ and the interior is ruined by that hideous steering wheel.

Now, if you can find a Chasseur Stealth Bi-Turbo in that condition...

That's incredible! Never knew such a thing existed. The hunt begins...
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C675964# smile

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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jamieduff1981 said:
I very strongly suspect that the right customer for this car will not also be weighing up an E39 M5.
The sort of buyer for this XJR wouldn't even consider being seen in some gauche tat like the E39 M5. hehe

nicfaz

432 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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From a time when british cars weren't terribly well built, but they were built from nice materials. The smell of the leather in these puts to shame almost any modern interior - you'd be needing to spend £100k+ to get leather of similar quality.

It's a lot of money though, you could get a nice CLS55 AMG for that, different vibe but twice the power, twice the torque, better ride and quieter at speed.

groomi

9,317 posts

243 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Quhet said:
groomi said:
... and the interior is ruined by that hideous steering wheel.
laugh I love it! The interior looks like a lovely place to be
I love the overall interior - my Sovereign was an amazing place to be, but that XJR steering wheel is the most hideous beige plastic.

soad

32,893 posts

176 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Charlie Michael said:
Matt Bird said:
groomi said:
Lovely car and in great condition. The thing is with the XJR, it wasn't really significantly faster than a standard XJ and the interior is ruined by that hideous steering wheel.

Now, if you can find a Chasseur Stealth Bi-Turbo in that condition...

That's incredible! Never knew such a thing existed. The hunt begins...
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C675964# smile
Another mistress taking all your funds and attention? How naughty. hehe

J4CKO

41,540 posts

200 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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groomi said:
Lovely car and in great condition. The thing is with the XJR, it wasn't really significantly faster than a standard XJ and the interior is ruined by that hideous steering wheel.

Now, if you can find a Chasseur Stealth Bi-Turbo in that condition...

I like the idea but a 1980s turbo conversion decades on, named after a casserole, attached to a famously rusty Jag could potentially be a real nightmare unless you find a very, very well looked after one.

14 grand for a not that fast, not that pretty XJR without a supercharger, I want to love it but cant summon up much enthusiasm.

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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It really does show how much performance moved on during the 1990s: ten years later an E39 530i was about two seconds quicker to 100, never mind a 540i or M5. And nowadays those are 320D numbers.

It's an interesting period piece, somewhat redolent of a certain kind of after-shave advert. The price seems ambitious but I suppose I'm not the target buyer. If I were having an XJ40 I'd be looking for maximum waft and purr with the V12.

groomi

9,317 posts

243 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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J4CKO said:
groomi said:
Lovely car and in great condition. The thing is with the XJR, it wasn't really significantly faster than a standard XJ and the interior is ruined by that hideous steering wheel.

Now, if you can find a Chasseur Stealth Bi-Turbo in that condition...

I like the idea but a 1980s turbo conversion decades on, named after a casserole, attached to a famously rusty Jag could potentially be a real nightmare unless you find a very, very well looked after one.
IIRC there was a lot of development done beyond just the engine mods. Lots of suspension and brake work (and I might be getting confused here) tested at the 'Ring. One of the guys behind it used to be on PH.

Rubin215

3,988 posts

156 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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I just bought a standard XJ6 for £50.

I expect to spend about £500 putting it back on the road.

I also bought a '98 XJR last year for £1650 and it has cost me nothing so far beyond tyres and standard servicing.

I have a lot of change left over...

gck303

203 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Baryonyx said:
jamieduff1981 said:
I very strongly suspect that the right customer for this car will not also be weighing up an E39 M5.
The sort of buyer for this XJR wouldn't even consider being seen in some gauche tat like the E39 M5. hehe
I love that car. In truth, there is little difference between that and a standard 4.0 with the Sports Pack. I think there might have been uprated suspension and slightly better brakes, but I don't think that there was anymore power. But, who cares.

This is in contrast to a c.1993 XJRS, which did have a larger 6.0 engine compared to the standard XJS's 5.3.

£14k is a bit/lot steep. But, if I owned one that is how much I would want to be compensated with to part from it!

If we are splitting hairs, I think I would prefer a slightly earlier XJR 3.6. Or, even a pre-1988 Daimler with metric wheels.










Hugh Jarse

3,503 posts

205 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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J4CKO said:
groomi said:
Lovely car and in great condition. The thing is with the XJR, it wasn't really significantly faster than a standard XJ and the interior is ruined by that hideous steering wheel.

Now, if you can find a Chasseur Stealth Bi-Turbo in that condition...

I like the idea but a 1980s turbo conversion decades on, named after a casserole, attached to a famously rusty Jag could potentially be a real nightmare unless you find a very, very well looked after one.
14 grand for a not that fast, not that pretty XJR without a supercharger, I want to love it but cant summon up much enthusiasm.
Factoid : Car was named after this game http://gotoflashgames.com/game/3242/Fesses-Chasseu...