RE: BMW M4: PH Fleet

Saturday 6th February 2016

BMW M4: PH Fleet

After eight months and 12,000 miles Dan reckons the M4 deserves a place among the M greats



So the M4 has gone. It's been one of the more interesting long-termers, overturning quite a few preconceptions along the way and convincing me that - for all the initial controversy - this could yet be one of the great M cars.

It's interesting that limited exposure to the new M3 or M4 seems to leave people cold. As such it's not dazzled on the first drive review or triumphed in the group tests in the way it might. People have moaned bitterly about the turbo engine's power delivery and the lairy handling. Both, to my mind, define the car. In a good way.

Ready Blyton Park? No, really, are you ready?
Ready Blyton Park? No, really, are you ready?
Every manufacturer has had to grasp the nettle of turbocharging in one way or another. M Division had to somehow translate the high-revving nature customers loved, but saw an opportunity in forced induction to address the torque deficit the same fans moaned about. Largely I think the S55 motor is a triumph.

If not without its issues. The vicious way it comes on boost and the unsettling effect this has on traction seems exacerbated by the fact none of the three damper modes seems an entirely happy match with the springs. On wet and bumpy tarmac it really struggles. And the initial mushiness in the variable ratio steering rack frustrates too, especially for the way it masks what is a really positive, pointy front end.

Many bemoan the noise, saying it doesn't have the spine-tingling character of previous M motors. To them I say stand at the side of the road and get someone to drive it up and down a few times - from the outside it sounds spectacular. I also love the angry, metallic cold start-up routine, a feature it shares with the previous car's V8 and the straight-sixes before that. Without the pointless and intrusive Active Sound Design it sounds - and feels - like a proper M straight-six. Certainly the decision to go for two small turbos and engineer all sorts of clever boost recirculation and other measures to keep it on the boil mean it's got a vast power band and a properly exciting top end to the rev range. If you dare go there.

Signing off in style
Signing off in style
What really stands out about the M4 are the demands it makes of you. Too many fast cars these days deliver their performance in a manner seemingly devoid of consequence. Not so the M4. If you're heavy-handed you'll be bouncing from one DSC intervention to another. Or possibly into a ditch. This car never, ever lets you forget its aggressively rear-driven balance or willingness to make you look like a real idiot.

An example. The photos and video below are from my last hurrah in the car at Blyton Park on the spare set of wheels with pre-knackered tyres I'd been saving for just such an occasion. For one corner second gear seemed slower and lower than what was needed but kept the revs and boost up, making the ensuing slide absolute child's play. Every time I tried it in third I span though, the higher gear meaning it was off boost and then suddenly on it, the car swapping ends before I even knew what was happening.

On the flipside there was a faster, more open corner coming out of one of the chicanes and in second it was just gripping and going. Short shifting into third and using that same boost spike made it possible to light up the rear tyres and scribe a beautiful, languid drift all the way into fourth gear and beyond. Brilliant fun.

Austin Yellow even better when it's filthy
Austin Yellow even better when it's filthy
Skidding around is all very amusing but applying that knowledge to keeping it neat and tidy also helped, more considered applications of throttle revealing the M Diff is actually very, very good at balancing the traction forces across the rear axle and offering incredible drive out of the corner. If you get it right. Which takes forward planning and an understanding of where in the powerband you want to be, and in which gear, at any given time. Once you're over that boost spike the brilliant throttle response and linearity of the power delivery mean it's easy to adjust the car's stance on the throttle, even on the road and with mere suggestions of corrective lock rather than great armfuls. Mid-way MDM mode on the DSC gives you enough to play with and just nudge the limits, albeit with enough slack to hang yourself if you got greedy. And in any situation the car just feels thrillingly, breathtakingly fast.

Did I ever regret not having a manual? Hand on heart, no. The M DCT box feels perfectly matched to the engine, chassis and various control systems and manages to mooch like an auto when needed but also deliver near-sequential style shifts in maximum attack. I loved it and rate it a key part of the M3/M4 experience. Would I put £6,250 into ceramic brakes if it were my money? I finally got to try a car with the standard steels and they look and feel more up to the job than previous M brakes and have a nicer initial bite. But the ceramics look cool and feel unflappable, even when glowing red hot.

Cheerio then M4, it's been quite the adventure
Cheerio then M4, it's been quite the adventure
The rest of the package was just great too. I like BMW interiors; from previous experience I know iDrive is now about the best of its type and remains one of the few infotainment systems you can truthfully operate without taking your eyes off the road. The cabin was sober compared with the exterior but couldn't be faulted in functional or quality terms. And once I disconnected the Active Sound Design all was good. Credit should be given to the economy - 30mpg was entirely achievable on a run and I'd happily go over 300 miles before needing to fill up. Impressive for a car of this nature and a lot better than the C63. At the other end of the scale track work would see it slurp the super at a rate of 8mpg!

Most of all though I just loved the way it looked. Every time I parked it up, every time I waited in a queue at a petrol station till I'd spend a few seconds gawping at it. In Austin Yellow it's not a subtle car by any stretch but I think the driving experience more than lives up to the promise. And there's absolutely no danger of confusing it with a 'civilian' 4 Series. From the dished wheels to the duck-tailed carbon bootlid it just looked spot-on to these eyes. I still prefer the more exaggerated proportions of the M3 saloon. But the coupe is a fine looking thing too.

So not perfect then. But all the more interesting for that and a real grower. It'll be missed.


FACT SHEET
Car
: BMW M4
Run by: Dan
On fleet since: June 2015
Mileage: 15,292
List price new: £73,870 (Basic list of £57,055 plus £1,330 for Black Merino leather, £545 for advanced parking package, £2,645 for 7-speed M DCT transmission, £6,250 for carbon ceramic brakes, £175 for 19" M Double-spoke style 437M alloy wheels/Black with mixed tyres, £265 for sun protection glass, £155 for extended storage, £140 for sliding front armrest, £440 for lane change warning system, £395 for Carbon Fibre interior trim, £1,600 for Adaptive LED headlights, £370 for driving assistant, £500 surround view, £825 Head-up display, £675 Harman/Kardon Loudspeaker system, £95 internet and £190 for online entertainment)
Last month at a glance: So long and thanks for all the skids

Previous reports
Dan wanted an M3, gets an M4 instead - what to do?!
It started so well... and now the M4 is in the bodyshop
Finally back from the bodyshop; time to drive!
Tyres were harmed in the making of this film
Just read the ruddy manual!
So, is it better than the C63 AMG?
Revealing its wild side in the winter gloom

Blyton Park tomfoolery here

 

 

 


 

 

Pics: Sim Mainey, thanks to Blyton Park

 

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Discussion

s2000db

Original Poster:

1,155 posts

153 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Nice summary Dan, you're right this is a car full of character, and one that you have to respect in certain circumstances....

Yet it always brings a smile to my face, in a (different) way, to my TurboS.. biggrin

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Prepares for PH meltdown biggrin

cerb4.5lee

30,477 posts

180 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Go down as one of the M greats...now that is a strong claim and certainly seems to go against the grain of what most think of it in the car world, I would still love one though. smokin

Shaoxter

4,069 posts

124 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Article said:
30mpg was entirely achievable on a run and I'd happily go over 300 miles before needing to fill up. Impressive for a car of this nature and a lot better than the C63. At the other end of the scale track work would see it slurp the super at a rate of 8mpg!
Those aren't exactly impressive numbers though are they?

On a run my M5 gets 25mpg, 300 miles to the tank (70L) and did 8mpg at the last track day (including the warm up/cool down laps). And that's with 66% more cylinders and displacement along with a glorious NA soundtrack. So much for turbocharging eh! wink

DMC2

1,831 posts

211 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Really?! I found it to be characterless, numb, heavy, sounded naff and was pretty much undriveable on country roads. Needed perfect road conditions. But supposedly later cars had revised suspension so maybe that makes a difference.

Overall 4/10. Not an M great and completely forgettable.

MaxA

238 posts

144 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Interesting review. I wasn't expecting a grower, as it goes against the grain not to provide instant thrills, but surely this M4 is all about the 'character' that every keeps claiming to feel nostalgia for?

rtz62

3,360 posts

155 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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As an aside, the video footage made me feel a bit skwiffy; it appears that you are travelling at a constant 45 degrees to your actual direction of travel, a pity the camera couldn't be mounted elsewhere to let us see the real abilities of the car. And of course, the driver (doffs his cap in due deference....)

D200

514 posts

147 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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DMC2 said:
Really?! I found it to be characterless, numb, heavy, sounded naff and was pretty much undriveable on country roads. Needed perfect road conditions. But supposedly later cars had revised suspension so maybe that makes a difference.

Overall 4/10. Not an M great and completely forgettable.
I guess it’s all relative to it's current competition

I see you have a pretty spectacular car history [and current lineup] basically the best cars this last 10 years - i haven't seen a better 'PH Garage'!

So I expect not many cars would live up to them

It would be more involving, more driver focused [and lighter] - although not as good sounding - than its current competition [C63, RC F and RS5] but in comparison to say a E46 M3 CSL or GT4s, GT3s, RS's etc I can understand how it may disappoint.

ingotree

16 posts

138 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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DMC2 said:
Really?! I found it to be characterless, numb, heavy, sounded naff and was pretty much undriveable on country roads. Needed perfect road conditions. But supposedly later cars had revised suspension so maybe that makes a difference.

Overall 4/10. Not an M great and completely forgettable.
I agree, had a long test drive in it and found even in the dry unable to put the power down. Like the new Civic Type R the engine lacked the magic and fizz I associate with an M car. It looks great but the experience was too synthetic for my liking. Maybe with more time you appreciate it's good points more. Chris Harris seems to love them but he is a better driver than most so maybe it is harder to appreciate if your not a driving God!!!

RossP

2,523 posts

283 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Nice write up Dan. I *mostly* agree, except the bit about the manual gearbox. I'll let you off though as I'm guessing you haven't driven a manual M4. I could be persuaded to let you have a go in mine if you ask really nicely...

kellydk

62 posts

159 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Taken from the article:

The vicious way it comes on boost and the unsettling effect this has on traction seems exacerbated by the fact none of the three damper modes seems an entirely happy match with the springs. On wet and bumpy tarmac it really struggles. And the initial mushiness in the variable ratio steering rack frustrates too, especially for the way it masks what is a really positive, pointy front end.

I'm unsure how you could ever say that "this could yet be one of the great M cars". To my eyes the car has too many flaws. I understand the reasoning for Turbo power but the way the power is delivered clearly makes the car a handful to drive. We all want a car to be involving but at the same time it needs to serve as daily transport. it has to be able to achieve this capability without the need to have your racing driver head on. And also, if the shocks and springs are mismatched it will not be a comfortable daily. Finally, the less said about electric steering the better.

Just because the M3/M4 now has even more horsepower and torque that the last model it does not mean that it is a better car. Time to get hold of an E46 or E92 to keep for the long term. The last of the great M3 cars.

FourRingedDonuts

108 posts

124 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Dan, well done for keeping an almost strait face at Blyton. I'd have been giggling like an idiot with those drifts.
Is the power delivery night and day compared to the E90? Where exactly does that spike hit in the rev range?

Bencolem

1,016 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Dan said:
What really stands out about the M4 are the demands it makes of you. Too many fast cars these days deliver their performance in a manner seemingly devoid of consequence.
I get that the new generation of desensitized performance leaves us all pining a more interactive, immersive driving experience - but that isn't the same as driving a car that simply sounds flawed dynamically...

adma23

68 posts

141 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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I have an M4 as my daily and had an E92 M3 before it and I compare them in this article: http://carmoods.com/index.php/2015/11/29/f82-bmw-m...

I think your analysis of the M4 is literally spot-on especially after having lived with the car as my daily for a few months as you have done.

I'm not really a fan of car reviews where the journalist has driven the car once. You need to live with a car for a few days or weeks to be able to properly review it.

The M4 is by no means an easy car to drive. It struggles for traction in most gears and on most surface conditions and the immense torque which comes on so early is a handful. But when you do get it right it is so rewarding. and on the right surfaces, in the dry it is so exhilaratingly quick.

I have a Lotus Exige S2 too and admittedly the M4 feels digital compared to the S2 analogue experience. But there are so many more circumstances where the M4 is useable compared to the limited circumstances where you can use the Exige. This is why the M4 is a 'great car'. It is an amazing blend of class, power, usability, sheer speed and versatility which very few other cars can offer irrespective of price.

Vroom101

828 posts

133 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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From the article:

"Every manufacturer has had to grasp the nettle of turbocharging in one way or another"

Maybe with the mainstream models, but Ford with the Mustang, Lexus with the RC F, and Audi with the RS5 have proved that if you have the will, then you can carry on with naturally aspirated engines. To be fair to the M division, I reckon they probably wanted to carry on with a high revving NA engine, but I suspect the decision was made higher up the command chain, and they had to make the best of the situation.

I think it's telling that with the previous generation, the M3 won pretty much every comparison test, whereas this one hasn't fared so well.

If I was in the market for this sort of car, I don't think I'd even consider the M3. I would be very tempted to import a GT350 Mustang - pretty sure it would feel more special, more of the time.

RossP

2,523 posts

283 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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I love all the critics who have probably not even been in an M4. I too have migrated from an E92 M3 (via an M135i) and I love my M4. It's the best car I've owned.

Sure it takes a bit of taming but that's part of the fun. There seems to be a mentality these days that you can drive foot to the floor everywhere. That's never going to be and shouldn't be the case with a high performance car.

ShaM4

43 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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I've thoroughly enjoyed all the articles Dan has posted on the M4 as I've been learning to live with my M4 in an almost parallel existinence and particularly enjoyed this last article and found myself nodding in agreement, even the CC bling brakes, a must have for all the wrong reasons!

I kind of understand some of the negative comments from people who have had a drive, they were my opinion also to start with, but having blagged one for a day, by the time it was time to hand the keys back I was just starting to understand what it was all about. 7 month in and I'm addicted!

I think if you want something nearer what the original M3 was, buy an M2. The M4 is a whole different league in my view, gone up a division in performance, looks and build quality!

cerb4.5lee

30,477 posts

180 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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RossP said:
I love all the critics who have probably not even been in an M4. I too have migrated from an E92 M3 (via an M135i) and I love my M4. It's the best car I've owned.

Sure it takes a bit of taming but that's part of the fun. There seems to be a mentality these days that you can drive foot to the floor everywhere. That's never going to be and shouldn't be the case with a high performance car.
I think this is one of the reasons I reckon the M4 could be right up my street and I loved the fact that you couldn't just jump in and drive my Cerbera fast or a hedge/tree/lamppost would be ready for you, yet with my E92 M3 nothing seemed to happen until 6k revs and it very rarely felt fast and it had loads of grip too.

The M4 is certainly more my cup of tea for sure and with it's unruly nature I think I would appreciate it and it's very quick as well compared to the previous model.

PunterCam

1,069 posts

195 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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You criticise the car in all the same ways the reviews did, but shrug it off as if it doesn't matter.. Crap steering, crap engine noise (stand outside to listen?! Why on earth would I stand outside?), crap damping... These aren't little things.

We all warm to cars we drive for a while, but that doesn't make them great. I'm sure it'd be a nice car to own, but it's never in a million years a great M car.

Kawasicki

13,077 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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It's a hell of a straight line performer, but I think it's lacking a lot of polish. M for Muscle car....and that's not a compliment.