RE: Yamaha XSR900: PH2

RE: Yamaha XSR900: PH2

Thursday 4th February 2016

Yamaha XSR900: PH2

More retro hooliganism from Yamaha



Can you have too much of a good thing? In the case of Yamaha's MT range it certainly seems not, as both the parallel twin and inline triple are currently selling like hot cakes all over the world. So it won't be a surprise to learn that the firm is busily capitalising on its success by using the MT's basic platform to create a raft of variations, the latest of which is the XSR900.

Yamaha makes them, people keep buying them!
Yamaha makes them, people keep buying them!
Far more than just a stylised MT-09
Much like the XSR700 that PH2 reviewed recently, on paper the XSR900 appears simply an MT-09 with a few cosmetic alterations to make it appeal to the retro market. But this isn't the case; under the XSR's skin are actually some very significant updates. While cosmetically there are the standard XSR round head lights, aluminium details, round dash and black paint on previously shiny parts such as the exhaust and levers, it's what's inside that makes the biggest difference to the XSR. As part of a general MT triple range update for 2016 (the tweaked MT-09 is yet to be launched), the XSR's engine now gains a slipper clutch with a 20 per cent lighter lever action, the fuelling maps are refined, traction control is standard alongside ABS and, more significantly, the suspension's damping rates have been stiffened slightly. In short, the XSR rectifies the main criticisms aimed at the original MT-09 and then wraps the improved package in a great looking body.

Is it really that different?
The riding experience of the original MT-09 was dominated by one simple factor - the triple engine. But it wasn't perfect and the snatchy throttle response soon required a 'software update' from Yamaha to make it less abrupt. Having had a few more years to perfect the MT's fueling, the XSR now benefits from the latest maps. As before, you get the option of A, B and STD (surely they could have found a better acronym?) modes, but this time it is only in A mode that the fuelling is deliberately harsh and a bit too abrupt to be enjoyable. Riding in STD mode at no point did I think the fuelling wasn't perfect. But in fact the most significant advance the XSR has over the MT-09 comes from the chassis.

You can do this with the TC on...
You can do this with the TC on...
Yamaha designed the MT-09 as a weird mix of supermoto and naked bike and as such gave it oddly long travel forks and soft suspension. While at a gentle pace this worked well, up the ante by braking or accelerating hard and it would rock back and forth on its suspension, ruining its composure. Despite having the same length forks, the XSR900 has vastly improved damping as well as a revised seating position (you sit taller and further back on the new seat and subframe) that make it handle far more like a traditional naked bike. There is no pitching in bends and you can brake hard into corners without the front pinging back and upsetting the bike's balance. Is it as good as a Street Triple? It's certainly not far off and that's impressive considering the Triumph is basically a stripped down sports bike.

Also new for 2016 on the XSR and MT-09 is the addition of traction control, something the Tracer debuted. While some may groan at a naked bike having TC, the XSR's system is extremely good. It has two levels of sensitivity and can be deactivated when the bike is stationary, which is all very well and good, but what impressed me was the fact you can still mess around with the TC turned on. In the least sensitive '1' mode, the XSR can still be wheelied off the clutch should you wish. Which I did, a lot!

Looks like being another sought after Yamaha
Looks like being another sought after Yamaha
A better bet
When I first saw both the XSR models they didn't appear to be much more than a few bolt-on bits, but I was wrong. The XSR700 is probably a better bike than the MT-07 and, in the same way, I prefer the XSR900 to the MT-09. Not only does the XSR ride better than the current pre-2016 update MT, in the yellow 'Kenny rep' 60th Anniversary paint it also looks awesome. The only fly in the ointment is the fact this colour is limited in its production run; if sales of the XSR700 are anything to go by, potential owners had better get their skates on...


YAMAHA XSR900
Engine:
847cc inline triple, 12v
Power (hp): 113@10,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 65@8,500rpm
Top speed: 140mph (est)
Weight: 195kg (wet)
MPG: 44 (est)
Price: £7,849 (£7,999 in Anniversary yellow)

Quick vid here.

 

 

 

 

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gareth_r

Original Poster:

5,724 posts

237 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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I thought my new bike would be either a Ducati Scrambler or the XSR700, but the XSR900 is only 9kg/20lbs heavier than the 700.

Oh, well... back to the dealer to try the 900 for size, I suppose.

Edited by gareth_r on Thursday 4th February 16:33

tjlazer

875 posts

174 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Gareth I thought the same and although I've not tried the xsr900 I've sat on the xsr700 and the mt-09 and for me the bulk of the 900 is too much for my purposes (getting to work through the city). Both xsrs are cracking looking even if I am sorely tempted by the ducati name and soundtrack (residuals are pretty helpful too!) decisions decisions...

Ed Straker

221 posts

143 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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TJ
Really?
I've commuted an MT-09 150 miles a day, including thru Reading city centre @ rush hour and it does the job fabulously.
Seems to lose it's size instantly the wheels are turning IMO, tho it's pretty compact from the get go.

George111

6,930 posts

251 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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I really like the look of this !

Ilovejapcrap

3,281 posts

112 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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George111 said:
I really like the look of this !
Me too need to see in the flesh

nicfaz

432 posts

230 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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/geek mode

It's not an acronym if it doesn't make a word. "STD" is an abbreviation.

/geek mode off

Jayinjapan

101 posts

146 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Hi guys, just a quick one to ask for a bit of advice. After years of deliberating I've decided to get my bike license when it warms up a little over here, after that I'll be hunting for a bike, new or nearly new. At first I figured on trying a Duke 390 but now these XSRs have appeared and they do look amazing. Would the 700 be reasonable for a new rider or would it be too much? I'd be using it for fun in and around the hills near me and for getting to work on occasion (mixed city/countryside). Also, just out of curiosity, what are the main differences between the 900 reviewed here and the smaller bike? All help gratefully received!

Dafuq

371 posts

170 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Jayinjapan said:
Hi guys, just a quick one to ask for a bit of advice. After years of deliberating I've decided to get my bike license when it warms up a little over here, after that I'll be hunting for a bike, new or nearly new. At first I figured on trying a Duke 390 but now these XSRs have appeared and they do look amazing. Would the 700 be reasonable for a new rider or would it be too much? I'd be using it for fun in and around the hills near me and for getting to work on occasion (mixed city/countryside). Also, just out of curiosity, what are the main differences between the 900 reviewed here and the smaller bike? All help gratefully received!

Dependent on the licensing laws where you are the 700 will be all the bike you need for a long long time if you eligible to get one as a starter. 900 pretty much a similar gig but more power.

A colleague here in SYD started his riding career on an MT07, sold it one year on for pretty much the new out of the box price he paid for it. Lost him to a fat Harley Davidson now, it seems to be the way of the older 'new to bikes' set over here but he has admitted remorse for offing the MT. I berate him regularly for chopping it in.

Get your licence, get one, use the bejesus out of it, don't look back.


graham22

3,295 posts

205 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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That plastic lunchbox either side of the frame near the headstock really grates with me for some reason.

See the tank sides are separate covers - would love to see a 350LC Mars Bar paint scheme on them.

tjlazer

875 posts

174 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Ed Straker said:
TJ
Really?
I've commuted an MT-09 150 miles a day, including thru Reading city centre @ rush hour and it does the job fabulously.
Seems to lose it's size instantly the wheels are turning IMO, tho it's pretty compact from the get go.
Yeah well I'm fairly new to biking and right now it's a bit too much of everything for me. I'm really hankering after the 700 tho, provided I can get some of the tasty JVB bits (headlight swap for a start!)

marcgti6

1,340 posts

213 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Wasn't expecting much of this but I really like the look of it and it sounds like a pretty good piece of kit.

Agree with another poster about the lunch box on the side of the frame! If I was in the market for a new bike, I'd probably forgive it though.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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George111 said:
I really like the look of this !
yes Me too, looks way better than the MT-09. I think it's the tank to seat ratio that spoils the styling on the MT. One of the few modern bikes I'm actually tempted to buy.

andburg

7,285 posts

169 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Have to say this really appeals to me.
right balance of retro and modern.
might be worth a shot in a year or 2 as they hit the used market

gareth_r

Original Poster:

5,724 posts

237 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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If http://cycle-ergo.com/ is to be believed, the riding position gives a decent amount of leg room (same for the 700 and the Ducati Scrambler). Also, it will be easy to swap handlebars on all three.

Looks like the short list to replace my Speed Four is Ducati Scrambler, XSR700, XSR900.

graham22

3,295 posts

205 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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woowahwoo said:
Nicer looking than the 700. Headlight is still too small. Would like to see if two XSR700 headlights could be wired-up, side-by-side.
No - needs only 1 slightly larger but shallower light still with a flat lens - ala XS1100/350LC/350N.

GM182

1,269 posts

225 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Been to talk to my local dealer about this, will be lucky to get one before the end of April apparently.

Going to check it out at the Excel bike show in docklans next weekend. Its the first bike for a while that i feel i really want

CaptainMorgan

1,454 posts

159 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Really like the look of this, I fancied the 700 but thought it might be a bit down on power so a 900 will do me nicely.